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post Dec 22 2023, 11:03
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 22 2023, 02:58) *

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to come across as unbossable. I hear what you (and Nezu and mathl33t and others) are saying. I understand it's like playing the lottery (well, not literally, because I got a peerless from the lottery as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)).

However, I like games of chance so I'd rather keep rolling than save up coins for the market place. If you ever played Diablo 3 at launch you understand why that is. It's infinitely more fun to get lucky on a dice roll than it is to buy someone else's sloppy seconds.

So I'm not really asking whether it makes any sense to play the Shrine at all, but rather if I am dedicated to rolling the Shrine, which way should I do it?


imho if you want to be dedicated gambler you should sell trophies for a while and secure enough money to get a good mage set once you are level 350 or so. For that, you should start saving "now", up to 30m. Also, get drop trainings up to a decent point (quartermaster 15, scavenger 40...). With those achieved, you can do arenas everyday/when your life lets you and shrine every trophy.

The reason being that if you take two hours to clear anything or you can't play in pfudor, then you cant even gamble, because you get a portion of the trophies and feel crap about playing HV.

From a playstyle point of view, holding "clear speed" as the goal, decent rolls slaughter power armor is better any other peerless. And in mage equip, well. The chances of getting self drops that amount to a full set that works are unbearably small. In the meantime, you will need to clear PFUDOR arenas once you reach level 300 and you will want to do it in minutes rather than hours. An average legendary slaughter power armor set will clear DWD well under 30 minutes. Otherwise, we are talking hours. A beginner, well crafted mage set clears each PFUDOR arena around the 10-15 minute mark.

Once you do have a set, you can gamble to your hearts content for future improvements and auctioning good pieces that you don't want to use to buy trophies.

I'm not an expert nor play to gamble, but gambling "before" having a decent build is a terrible choice.

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post Dec 22 2023, 17:40
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 22 2023, 01:58) *

So I'm not really asking whether it makes any sense to play the Shrine at all, but rather if I am dedicated to rolling the Shrine, which way should I do it?


And again, I've given you the answer to that: upgrading maximizes shrine credit value, disabling upgrading maximizes your chances of getting legendary items.
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post Dec 22 2023, 21:24
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Dec 21 2023, 17:58) *


So I'm not really asking whether it makes any sense to play the Shrine at all, but rather if I am dedicated to rolling the Shrine, which way should I do it?


Well then your first order of business should be to become a Follower of Snowflake.
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post Dec 23 2023, 06:04
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QUOTE(SDR Fang @ Dec 22 2023, 16:05) *

Try scrolls, and then weaken.

I think you might have issues because of your low cotton armor proficiency. Could you share your stats as well?


Cotton armor prof. : 346
Weaken can help, but then the problem will then be mana
Mana consumption will then be a big problem with imp and weaken every round.......
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post Dec 23 2023, 11:22
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Dec 22 2023, 20:04) *

Cotton armor prof. : 346
Weaken can help, but then the problem will then be mana
Mana consumption will then be a big problem with imp and weaken every round.......


I'm not sure then. Your equips are about or even actually better than mine, but I can clear all arenas in IWBTH and PFUDOR if using scrolls.

My solution for the mana is when there are only 1-2 enmies left try to get the ether tap. Usually with mana potions the restoration should be enough.

So, maybe try using scrolls except in the lendendary arenas as that would be too expensive. Also, you can try to get some equips with the charged prefix which could help with survival.

BTW, I think usually elemental mages use 4 phases + 1 cotton. Maybe you should replace your robe to a charged phase one.
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post Dec 23 2023, 20:11
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Dec 22 2023, 11:03) *

Want to ask something about mage style
I try mage build recently, and the effect seems........bad?

My build look like this
Legendary Arctic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Cobalt Phase Cap of Niflheim
Legendary Ruby Cotton Robe of the Elementalist
Magnificent Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
Magnificent Amber Phase Pants of Niflheim
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Niflheim
with ability needed

But, when I try to use this for arena To Kill a god(min level 165) under Nintendo only, I always need to cure myself every 2 rounds. Is that normal?

Actually, I count the time, and it consumes more time than melee under PFUDOR. Any sequence of using the skills will help?

P.S. Imp is used of course

1. 2 cotton prof slots, especially with redwood staff (quite high base prof) is too excessive, upgrading elemental proficiency on both staff and 1 cloth should be enough. Also Eminent Elementalist hath perk can help with that.
2. You should really increase cast speed to have better survivability. 2 ways: Spellweaver potency on staff (vast majority of players use Penetrator5 Spellweaver4 for this exact reason), clothes with Charged prefix.
3. Juggernaut potency on clothes helps quite a bit.
Also should mention, arenas with just normal mobs (165, 180, 200) do indeed feel a bit harder than arenas with schoolgirls (225, 250, 300 etc). Having to cure is fine, it is what it is. Use weaken on last rounds of arenas where there are many mobs (7+ for example, thats what I do rn on isekai)
Sent you this, has extra agility bonus (more evade + some dmg mitigation) and juggernaut3 (gives health bonus, not much though =( ) compared to yours

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post Dec 23 2023, 20:46
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If I'm looking to get the most profit out of my Tokens of Blood, I should clear FSM every day and sell the noodles, yes?
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post Dec 23 2023, 21:53
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QUOTE(Wululululu-BZZT @ Dec 23 2023, 18:46) *

If I'm looking to get the most profit out of my Tokens of Blood, I should clear FSM every day and sell the noodles, yes?

That's the general advice, yes. Do keep, however, a stash of 200-300ish Blood Tokens for special events when we can get additional Arena/RoB clear bonuses, such as during the loot harvest festial in Autuomn. Because during those kinds of moments, you'd rather want to clear every RoB everyday.
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post Dec 24 2023, 02:52
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QUOTE(uchimatan @ Dec 24 2023, 02:11) *

1. 2 cotton prof slots, especially with redwood staff (quite high base prof) is too excessive, upgrading elemental proficiency on both staff and 1 cloth should be enough. Also Eminent Elementalist hath perk can help with that.
2. You should really increase cast speed to have better survivability. 2 ways: Spellweaver potency on staff (vast majority of players use Penetrator5 Spellweaver4 for this exact reason), clothes with Charged prefix.
3. Juggernaut potency on clothes helps quite a bit.
Also should mention, arenas with just normal mobs (165, 180, 200) do indeed feel a bit harder than arenas with schoolgirls (225, 250, 300 etc). Having to cure is fine, it is what it is. Use weaken on last rounds of arenas where there are many mobs (7+ for example, thats what I do rn on isekai)
Sent you this, has extra agility bonus (more evade + some dmg mitigation) and juggernaut3 (gives health bonus, not much though =( ) compared to yours


Many thanks with your equipment sent ORZ
Actually, Eminent Elementalist has been bought, and.....
It is embarrassing that my prof. factor is just 0.8 with 2 prof cotton eq.
So......I guess this is the main point that my damage is so low

And again, lots of thanks with your help ORZZZZZZZ
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post Dec 24 2023, 03:21
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Dec 23 2023, 12:04) *

Cotton armor prof. : 346
Weaken can help, but then the problem will then be mana
Mana consumption will then be a big problem with imp and weaken every round.......


I would say it's pretty normal to use mana elixir with normal mage build, I use 1 or 2 elixir every arena when I begin to mage at level 400-ish, also in Isekai even when I have Economizer Lv.5 in my staff.
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post Dec 24 2023, 10:21
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Dec 24 2023, 03:52) *

It is embarrassing that my prof. factor is just 0.8 with 2 prof cotton eq.

What you should do, is find 1 good cotton piece (legendary charged), stick with it and forge elemental proficiency on it. A lot. With redwood staff, cap should be enough (with my redwood staff having forged lv35 elem prof and cap forged lv50 elem prof, I have 0.824 prof factor, considering I have natural elemental proficiency at ~1.095x of my level). Just make sure you reach at least 0.7 factor, with 0.79 being end goal. Though have to say, good prof equipments can be quite pricey, and forging clothes is sorta expensive too (iirc, to lv50 it will cost approx. 2million credits). Also dont forget to forge prof on staff.
That will free second slot to put another phase in it, so, more damage.

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post Dec 24 2023, 16:30
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I recently got my first Peerless, in Isekai, and was wondering what best to do with it. So, what are some good suggestions?
It’s a Peerless Agile Leather Breastplate of Dampening, level 302.
Attack Speed+4.31 %
Physical Mitigation+11.37 %
Magical Mitigation+9.32 %
Evade Chance+3.50 %
Resist Chance+14.66 %
Burden+4.20
Interference+8.40
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Crushing +18.19
Slashing +9.53
Piercing +4.76
Primary Attributes
Strength +55.35
Dexterity +55.35
Endurance +46.69
Agility +46.69

I’m on mobile, so can link my equipment. Anyway, I already upgraded everything 1 level.
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post Dec 24 2023, 18:32
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QUOTE(Wess83 @ Dec 24 2023, 15:30) *

I recently got my first Peerless, in Isekai, and was wondering what best to do with it. So, what are some good suggestions?
It’s a Peerless Agile Leather Breastplate of Dampening, level 302.
Attack Speed+4.31 %
Physical Mitigation+11.37 %
Magical Mitigation+9.32 %
Evade Chance+3.50 %
Resist Chance+14.66 %
Burden+4.20
Interference+8.40
Damage Mitigations
Crushing +18.19
Slashing +9.53
Piercing +4.76
Primary Attributes
Strength +55.35
Dexterity +55.35
Endurance +46.69
Agility +46.69

I’m on mobile, so can link my equipment. Anyway, I already upgraded everything 1 level.

well, not that much choice really
1. sell? not possible, you don't have a donation star. But equip would be worth about 500k credits if you could sell it. But you can't
2. Keep? Then it would get transfererend to persistent at end of season, and become soulfused. Also not tradable
3. Use? Not really useful for any style...
leaves you with only one option:
4. salvage. Either now or after transfer to persistent. Doesn't matter. You'll get a peerless core. Those are not tradable. So you can't sell those. But who knows? Maybe one day we'll get an update and those cores become useful?
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post Dec 25 2023, 15:50
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QUOTE(Wess83 @ Dec 24 2023, 22:30) *

I recently got my first Peerless, in Isekai, and was wondering what best to do with it. So, what are some good suggestions?
It’s a Peerless Agile Leather Breastplate of Dampening, level 302.


simply just keep it in inventory for collection. it anyway not worth to make you donate a star to make it tradeable, but anyway a peerless looks cool
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post Dec 25 2023, 23:32
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 16 2023, 12:51) *

1) Well, you can technically have up to 3 back-to-back: enter one, wait 30 mins, use HVUtils to capture the link for the 2nd, and then when that one's close to expiring, you could then do 3 in a row? But no, other than that, the battle keys expire & won't generate a round for you once 30 minutes has passed since the link was generated.

QUOTE(KitsuneAbby @ Dec 16 2023, 17:36) *

In those cases, I'd advise to start those challenges right after triggering+finishing a RE, and then triggering (but without initiating) a new RE before the end.


I know that's the legal way to do 3 back-to-back, but I could've sworn I managed to click the link in the middle of an RE (not just request it), and it gives me an RE right after I finish the first (only 3 times my whole HV career, but still). If it's not intentional, then I guess I should stop trying to do it.

QUOTE(SDR Fang @ Dec 16 2023, 13:09) *

It is really determined by your level, your soul fragments stack, and the quality of the equip.

In conclusion, any equips close to your level will always be the best. If it's much lower or higher, you should re-consider if the soulfuse cost matches the equipment quality.

QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 16 2023, 12:51) *

2) I think economic circumstances & gear RNG are so wildly diverse for most people that it's hard to give any 'rule of thumb' for soulfusing. I think the block on a force shield is totally worth soulfusing for. And I also soulfused gear so I could equip it sooner when I was levelling. You can also buy fragments from the item shop, so it's not actually capped at all.


I see, thanks for the tips. I now realize I can buy it in shop, but that's really quite expensive so I'd rather not buy them. If I may ask 2 more things:
1. How important is an Ethereal prefix for a main hand club in DW? Is an elemental prefix acceptable? There is a legendary fiery club of slaughter in WTS with really cool rolls, and I'm wondering if I should soulfuse it so I can stop looking for weapon updates.
2. Not related to soulfusing, but if anyone here use HVUtils, can we configure it to show item cooldowns? Items are visible in the quickbar, but upon usage, they disappear instead of showing cooldown counter like skills.
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post Dec 25 2023, 23:50
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QUOTE(firzein @ Dec 25 2023, 16:32) *

1. How important is an Ethereal prefix for a main hand club in DW? Is an elemental prefix acceptable? There is a legendary fiery club of slaughter in WTS with really cool rolls, and I'm wondering if I should soulfuse it so I can stop looking for weapon updates.
2. Not related to soulfusing, but if anyone here use HVUtils, can we configure it to show item cooldowns? Items are visible in the quickbar, but upon usage, they disappear instead of showing cooldown counter like skills.

1. Ethereal is better due to having no burden to reduce your evade, but with a featherweight shard applied to a nonethereal club, the difference is pretty small. Be sure to IW10 the club, and it will be just as good offensively too.
2. Monsterbation, and yes.
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post Dec 26 2023, 09:17
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Does Juggernaut increases the base HP, or the final HP?

If it only increases the final HP, does it mean it's not that useful as it does not increase the HP recovered from regen and potions?

Is IW useful on equips other than weapons then?
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:09
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QUOTE(SDR Fang @ Dec 26 2023, 07:17) *

Does Juggernaut increases the base HP, or the final HP?

If it only increases the final HP, does it mean it's not that useful as it does not increase the HP recovered from regen and potions?

Is IW useful on equips other than weapons then?

It adds HP basing on your base HP, just like the abilities. And yes, it doesn't make any healing more powerful. It only ever makes you have a higher margin before the need to heal. It does, however, make Full Heal / Health Elixir more effective, since you have a bigger pool of HP.

IW is needed for Juggernaut 5 for all kinds of armors and nothing else TBH. But a shield... nobody cares about their potencies, since they can't have Juggernaut.
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post Dec 26 2023, 17:43
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QUOTE(firzein @ Dec 25 2023, 21:32) *

I know that's the legal way to do 3 back-to-back, but I could've sworn I managed to click the link in the middle of an RE (not just request it), and it gives me an RE right after I finish the first (only 3 times my whole HV career, but still). If it's not intentional, then I guess I should stop trying to do it.


That's fine, it's probably either a visual glitch or HVUtils handling it intelligently in the background. You're not doing anything unusual or illegal, no need to worry about it.

QUOTE(firzein @ Dec 25 2023, 21:32) *

I see, thanks for the tips. I now realize I can buy it in shop, but that's really quite expensive so I'd rather not buy them. If I may ask 2 more things:
1. How important is an Ethereal prefix for a main hand club in DW? Is an elemental prefix acceptable? There is a legendary fiery club of slaughter in WTS with really cool rolls, and I'm wondering if I should soulfuse it so I can stop looking for weapon updates.
2. Not related to soulfusing, but if anyone here use HVUtils, can we configure it to show item cooldowns? Items are visible in the quickbar, but upon usage, they disappear instead of showing cooldown counter like skills.


Non-ethereal clubs have too high burden & interference to completely negate with a featherweight charm. The importance of that is up to you to decide, but I think it's one of the easiest steps you can take to keep your evade up.

I don't think the solution to #2 is available in any of our existing scripts (it would be Monsterbation, not HVUtils, in battle). It's not illegal to do so, but there is a minor caveat that items on cooldown aren't shown in the inventory either, so it'd be impossible to determine which items are on cooldown on first load mid-battle (eg, when switching between the regular/alt domains) - they'd have to be saved and counted since your last usage.

QUOTE(SDR Fang @ Dec 26 2023, 07:17) *

Does Juggernaut increases the base HP, or the final HP?

If it only increases the final HP, does it mean it's not that useful as it does not increase the HP recovered from regen and potions?


You are correct, it is no longer considered 'base HP' after Juggernaut and other effects are taken into account. But max HP is useful for Full Cure and Spirit Shield thresholds.

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post Dec 27 2023, 04:39
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 26 2023, 08:43) *

That's fine, it's probably either a visual glitch or HVUtils handling it intelligently in the background. You're not doing anything unusual or illegal, no need to worry about it.

Completely vanilla behavior. Most battle load a specific URL when you end them, but REs just reload the current URL, which in this example is the URL to start the next RE.
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