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Nov 20 2023, 08:30
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Noni
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QUOTE(justreadin @ Nov 20 2023, 05:45)  What's the priority in terms of forging for an elemental mage? I'd presume it starts with the elemental prof on the cloth and staff then works up to EDB/MDB?
On a related note, do the EXP multipliers on arenas affect the proficiency gains as well?
- correct, prof then EDB/MDB. Don't forget evade for defense if you get killed a lot, and PMit as well. Then the PABs - Yes prof gain is directly linked to EXP gain. Train Assimilator a bit to boost it further.
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Nov 20 2023, 08:32
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舍命玩文
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I noticed that the wiki of gain of proficiencies said "The chance for proficiency gain when using a spell is 100%.", but I tried GF with normal difficulity setting and found very less increase of element proficiency. So how to improve proficiency quickly beyond daily AR cleaning with PFUDOR?
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Nov 20 2023, 08:34
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Noni
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QUOTE(舍命玩文 @ Nov 20 2023, 07:32)  I noticed that the wiki of gain of proficiencies said "The chance for proficiency gain when using a spell is 100%.", but I tried GF with normal difficulity setting and found very less increase of element proficiency. So how to improve proficiency quickly beyond daily AR cleaning with PFUDOR?
normal? that's basically a waste of time in my opinion. PFUDOR is not needed, you could do a bit lower.
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Nov 20 2023, 08:46
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舍命玩文
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 20 2023, 14:34)  normal? that's basically a waste of time in my opinion. PFUDOR is not needed, you could do a bit lower.
I realized I misunderstand the wiki, chance of spell is 100%, but still be influenced by the multiplying coefficient of EXP dut to difficulity setting. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Nov 21 2023, 04:46
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justreadin
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 20 2023, 13:30)  - correct, prof then EDB/MDB. Don't forget evade for defense if you get killed a lot, and PMit as well. Then the PABs - Yes prof gain is directly linked to EXP gain. Train Assimilator a bit to boost it further.
Sounds good then, thanks. On an unrelated note, sometimes the game runs pretty slow and alt.hentaiverse.org doesn't work for me lately. It just returns "Server communication failed". I'm on Firefox if that matters, but this makes arenas and IWs kinda annoying when it lags out.
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Nov 21 2023, 05:16
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Vanz/452
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QUOTE(justreadin @ Nov 20 2023, 20:46)  Sounds good then, thanks.
On an unrelated note, sometimes the game runs pretty slow and alt.hentaiverse.org doesn't work for me lately. It just returns "Server communication failed". I'm on Firefox if that matters, but this makes arenas and IWs kinda annoying when it lags out.
To me works reloading or trying later. Also using FF
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Nov 21 2023, 16:51
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glabr
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Has anyone done research on these topics: average loot value from shrining by trophy type, and by equip class average kill/win rate by monster class
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Nov 21 2023, 16:58
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Noni
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QUOTE(glabr @ Nov 21 2023, 15:51)  Has anyone done research on these topics: average loot value from shrining by trophy type, and by equip class average kill/win rate by monster class
Loot form shrining: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6284402value is too market dependent. Win/kill rate: I don't think this is very useful information, as it's more dependent on power level than on class. So if you compare classes, the class with the most PL2250 monsters wins. You can find that info here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=247209
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Nov 21 2023, 18:27
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Nezu
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QUOTE(glabr @ Nov 21 2023, 14:51)  average kill/win rate by monster class
I tracked some grindfest data about monsters and posted about it in this post and the couple that follow it, which might be useful to you.
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Nov 22 2023, 03:03
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Thiaguinho-sama
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where should I post if I only want to get the monthly exp bonus? sometimes I disappear for a few weeks or months but I don't necessarely have anything to say in the forums so I was wondering where I could make a useless post just for HV exp bonus
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Nov 22 2023, 05:27
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 21 2023, 22:03)  where should I post if I only want to get the monthly exp bonus? sometimes I disappear for a few weeks or months but I don't necessarely have anything to say in the forums so I was wondering where I could make a useless post just for HV exp bonus
- General Chat - Adult Chat - Anime & Manga Chat - Culture Corner - Gamers Chat - Tech Chat
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Nov 22 2023, 05:30
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Vanz/452
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 21 2023, 19:03)  where should I post if I only want to get the monthly exp bonus? sometimes I disappear for a few weeks or months but I don't necessarely have anything to say in the forums so I was wondering where I could make a useless post just for HV exp bonus
This one counts. But I'll you're shy to post nonsense here, in general you find spam threads like 'what is the last thing you eat?'
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Nov 22 2023, 20:21
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BlueWaterSplash
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thiaguinho likes blue water splash
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Nov 23 2023, 23:55
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glabr
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Nov 21 2023, 16:27)  I tracked some grindfest data about monsters and posted about it in this post and the couple that follow it, which might be useful to you. Thanks, it's useful. I'm curious how you play pfest. It seems like you have thousands of sparks triggered, I assume that's intentional and you don't die. Do you use spirit shield, do you start round with fus? What debuffs you use? I usually die past 600 round with staff mage.
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Nov 24 2023, 09:28
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舍命玩文
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now my prof is 1.71 x level (500) by change my Radiant gloves to Elementalist, prof can reach to 1000, but the element damage (element attack * magic attack) will decrease about 23%, can anyone suggest me if it is worthing to change?
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Nov 24 2023, 09:39
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Noni
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QUOTE(舍命玩文 @ Nov 24 2023, 08:28)  now my prof is 1.71 x level (500) by change my Radiant gloves to Elementalist, prof can reach to 1000, but the element damage (element attack * magic attack) will decrease about 23%, can anyone suggest me if it is worthing to change?
no for elemental mage 1.71 x is enough already. We use the term 'prof factor' (see wiki) and your prof factor is 0.71 (calculated as your factor - 1 ) For elemental mage, 0.7 is maximum that is needed. Above that, prof doesn't give enough benefits. If you want to know why exactly, read the wiki bits on proficiency and mitigation.
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Nov 24 2023, 11:38
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uchimatan
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 24 2023, 10:39)  For elemental mage, 0.7 is maximum that is needed.
Elemental needs 0.789 for 35% dmg mitigation reduction (which when combined with 40% from imperil gives 75%, max needed). Higher than 0.789 only increases counter-resist afaik. QUOTE(舍命玩文 @ Nov 24 2023, 10:28)  now my prof is 1.71 x level (500) by change my Radiant gloves to Elementalist, prof can reach to 1000, but the element damage (element attack * magic attack) will decrease about 23%, can anyone suggest me if it is worthing to change?
Not worth it at all. Either stay as is (0.71 prof factor gives ~30% mitigation reduction, with imperil 70%, close to max 75% possible anyway), or swap cap for pants/robe, whatever will bring you to 0.789, but don't use 2 prof clothes. I would honestly stay as is, since you are lv500, and just grind natural prof. With your equipment HV utils shows you should reach 0.789 when you will have ~567.5 natural elem prof (if you have Eminent elementalist hath perk)
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Nov 24 2023, 12:04
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(glabr @ Nov 23 2023, 21:55)  Thanks, it's useful. I'm curious how you play pfest. It seems like you have thousands of sparks triggered, I assume that's intentional and you don't die. Do you use spirit shield, do you start round with fus? What debuffs you use? I usually die past 600 round with staff mage.
Yes to spirit shield. The only debuff used in that run would've been imperil. No overcharge gained without staff-whacking the mobs so no fus-ro-dah.
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Nov 24 2023, 12:19
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Byza
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(glabr @ Nov 23 2023, 22:55)  Thanks, it's useful. I'm curious how you play pfest. It seems like you have thousands of sparks triggered, I assume that's intentional and you don't die. Do you use spirit shield, do you start round with fus? What debuffs you use? I usually die past 600 round with staff mage.
Idk how different in power levels we are, but extreme suffering around round 600 seems much like my current predicament. I've read "most" of what has been said in this thread about pfest and ifest and I've decided waiting to have significantly more forging both in aggresive and defensive stats before I try mage fests again, to reduce consumable cost/not flee. In Ifest I can safely play up until 800, then it gets slow and scary. In pfest it gets slow and elixir consuming around 500. But, in any case and for reference, it is more profitable to me at the moment to sell the ED (or not to buy it) than actually doing the fest ignoring the value of the experience/prof gained.
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Nov 25 2023, 05:19
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sigo8
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QUOTE(Byza @ Nov 24 2023, 03:19)  Idk how different in power levels we are, but extreme suffering around round 600 seems much like my current predicament. I've read "most" of what has been said in this thread about pfest and ifest and I've decided waiting to have significantly more forging both in aggresive and defensive stats before I try mage fests again, to reduce consumable cost/not flee.
In Ifest I can safely play up until 800, then it gets slow and scary. In pfest it gets slow and elixir consuming around 500.
But, in any case and for reference, it is more profitable to me at the moment to sell the ED (or not to buy it) than actually doing the fest ignoring the value of the experience/prof gained.
Do you use scrolls? The effect of the scrolls is stronger than the spell, and the difference is very noticeable in late PFEST, even with Gum & Vase I'm reminded by the damage I take to use scrolls if I forget. I assume you probably do, but I not sure how well document this is, so I figured it was worth checking.
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