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Mar 18 2018, 19:29
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AnonDarkMage7
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 17 2018, 17:58)  monster lab page. there's a table which answers this and much more.
QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 18 2018, 10:47)  https://ehwiki.org/wiki/File:Crystal_packs_vs_PL.pngOne Crystal Pack = 12,000 crystals. PL tops out at 2250, and you need 5.603 million crystals of each of the primary attributes and I think 4.8 million for each elemental attribute at that point. Thank you very much for those links. Another question, anyone know the chance to get a high grade material as a monster's level increases? the formula on the wiki is crossed out so i don't know if that's valid or not.
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Mar 18 2018, 19:46
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VawX
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 18 2018, 22:47)  https://ehwiki.org/wiki/File:Crystal_packs_vs_PL.pngOne Crystal Pack = 12,000 crystals. PL tops out at 2250, and you need 5.603 million crystals of each of the primary attributes and I think 4.8 million for each elemental attribute at that point. Didn't realize that leveling monster to 750 only cost around 800k mmm...
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Mar 19 2018, 00:27
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Thick Meat Maniac
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,672
Joined: 5-January 16

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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Mar 17 2018, 23:52)  I asked this before but I forgot the answer, how many crystals is needed to level a monster to at least 750? to at least 1500? and where can i find this info myself for future reference (I'm apparently really bad at finding the right key words to search on the wiki)?
i dont have data, how to feed a accurate 1500pl monster with balance (pab+res) crystal use yet. but maybe in the future! anyway i did mainly focus to know how to feed for last powerlvl befor edibles were discard for cuisine (@750) and how to feed 1005pl, so monster have all tokens update available, also not to turn un-named with not feeding...... maybe some numbers arent accurate, but still they might be usefull for you and others to know! 750pl= 12*3/13*3 // 27*5/28*1 (18-28pab / 22-28res packs) 1005pl= 15*6 // 32*3/33*3 (68pab / 88res packs) ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ 750pl up 1017pl (balance) 27*5 28*1 = resi 26->27=4.498---21.447 27->28=5.690---27.137 28->29=7.197---34.334 29->30=9.103---43.437 30->31=11.514---54.951 31->32=14.563--- 69.514 32->33=18.421--- 87.930 87.930-21.447= 66483 (33*6) ------------------------------ 12*3 13*3 = pab 11->12=6.431---17.926 12->13=10.000---27.926 13->14=15.551---43.477 14->15=24.183---67.660 67.660-17.926 = 49734 (15*6) ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ PAB 00->01=50 01->02=78---128 02->03=121---249 03->04=188---437 04->05=292---729 05->06=455---1.184 06->07=707---1.891 07->08=1.100---2.991 08->09=1.710---4.701 09->10=2.659---7.360 10->11=4.135---11.495 11->12=6.431---17.926 12->13=10.000---27.926 13->14=15.551---43.477 14->15=24.183---67.660 15->16=37.606---105.266 16->17=58.480---163.746 17->18=90.942---254.688 18->19=141.421---396.109 19->20=219.921---616.030 20->21=341.995---958.025 21->22=531.830---1.489.855 22->23=827.037---2.316.892 23->24=1.286.108---3.603.000 24->25=2.000.000---5.603.000 RES 00->01=10 01->02=13---23 02->03=16---39 03->04=20---59 04->05=26---85 05->06=32---117 06->07=41---158 07->08=52---210 08->09=66---276 09->10=83---359 10->11=105---464 11->12=133---597 12->13=168---765 13->14=212---977 14->15=268---1.245 15->16=339---1.584 16->17=429---2.013 17->18=543---2.556 18->19=687---3.243 19->20=869---4.112 20->21=1.099---5.211 21->22=1.389---6.600 22->23=1.758---8.358 23->24=2.223---10.581 24->25=2.812---13.393 25->26=3.556---16.949 26->27=4.498---21.447 27->28=5.690---27.137 28->29=7.197---34.334 29->30=9.103---43.437 30->31=11.514---54.951 31->32=14.563--- 69.514 32->33=18.421--- 87.930 33->34=23.300---111.235 34->35=29.471---140.706 35->36=37.276---177.982 36->37=47.149---225.131 37->38=59.636---284.767 38->39=75.431---360.198 39->40=95.410---455.608 40->41=120.679---576.287 41->42=152.642---728.925 42->43=193.070---921.999 43->44=244.205---1.166.204 44->45=308.884---1.475.088 45->46=390.694---1.865.782 46->47=494.171---2.359.953 47->48=625.055---2.985.008 48->49=790.604---3.775.612 49->50=1.000.000---4.775.612
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Mar 19 2018, 03:16
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Majin Hanako
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I'm still saving up to buy better equipment, but I got these two equips as drops recently: Legendary Amber Force Shield of WardingLegendary Ruby Power Gauntlets of ProtectionAre either of these good for a 1H build? I'm wondering what's the best type of rapier to use as well and around how much it'll cost me for a good one, back when I played more frequently Ethereal of Slaughter seemed to be the best option but now it seems like elemental and non slaughter ones are pretty popular as well, currently I'm still using a Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter I got a few years ago just because I never found anything better.
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Mar 19 2018, 03:46
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LogJammin
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Majin Hanako @ Mar 18 2018, 20:16)  I'm still saving up to buy better equipment, but I got these two equips as drops recently: Legendary Amber Force Shield of WardingLegendary Ruby Power Gauntlets of ProtectionAre either of these good for a 1H build? I'm wondering what's the best type of rapier to use as well and around how much it'll cost me for a good one, back when I played more frequently Ethereal of Slaughter seemed to be the best option but now it seems like elemental and non slaughter ones are pretty popular as well, currently I'm still using a Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter I got a few years ago just because I never found anything better. The gauntlets are good, the shield is VERY good. Forge up that block chance as much as you can. Any rapier of slaughter would be fine, but many consider the best to be Arctic, Hallowed, or Demonic. Ethereal is still good but it's better for DW style. A decent Leg rapier of slaughter can usually go for 1-3m in auction, or more if there's a lot of bidders. As soon as you do get a good rapier, get it to IW10 so you get an additional elemental strike. If you need a rapier in the meantime, I have a Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter that I got from freeshop some time ago. Let me know if you want it, it's just collecting dust in my inventory.
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Mar 19 2018, 03:47
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igs88
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 1-October 17

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QUOTE(Majin Hanako @ Mar 19 2018, 08:16)  ========
Shield is really good (because mine is worse), power gauntlets is decent since you got from drops. For rapier, you should buy elemental rapier of slaughter, search for good adb and accuracy. The cost will be 1mill (like last 2 auctions).... ___________________________________________ I just bought VV today (thanks uncle), i know i'm way too late in purchasing perks. So far i have ia2, post paid, and VV, is there any perks that can help 1h player like me? Thinking cap? Or maybe i should buy crystal 1 to raise my monster? This post has been edited by igs88: Mar 19 2018, 03:49
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Mar 19 2018, 04:18
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Majin Hanako
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Mar 19 2018, 04:46)  The gauntlets are good, the shield is VERY good. Forge up that block chance as much as you can. Any rapier of slaughter would be fine, but many consider the best to be Arctic, Hallowed, or Demonic. Ethereal is still good but it's better for DW style. A decent Leg rapier of slaughter can usually go for 1-3m in auction, or more if there's a lot of bidders. As soon as you do get a good rapier, get it to IW10 so you get an additional elemental strike. If you need a rapier in the meantime, I have a Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter that I got from freeshop some time ago. Let me know if you want it, it's just collecting dust in my inventory. QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 19 2018, 04:47)  Shield is really good (because mine is worse), power gauntlets is decent since you got from drops. For rapier, you should buy elemental rapier of slaughter, search for good adb and accuracy. The cost will be 1mill (like last 2 auctions)....
Thanks for the help, I'm surprised both by how good the shield seems to be and how relatively cheap decent rapiers are, I'd also be interested in that Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter, how much would you want for it?
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Mar 19 2018, 04:53
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 19 2018, 02:47)  (thanks uncle),
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 19 2018, 02:47)  i know i'm way too late in purchasing perks. So far i have ia2, post paid, and VV, is there any perks that can help 1h player like me? Thinking cap? Or maybe i should buy crystal 1 to raise my monster?
Well, it is not really necessary, but i liked about IA3 that it makes it so much easier to get, even with two active slots, a possitive mana income in battle. And yes, i would say buy Crys I. Even without doing GF, it makes growing your monsters so much easier. What else? Long Gone Before Daylight is worth its money, if you do play enough to drink a daily ED. Thinking cap, yeah, you could buy it. Fun fact this is even the only XP Perk uncle does have and he wont waste any hath to a perk who will bring him very soon nothing. Tokenizer I is also a perk that is worth the hath. Or DD I. I know most of those cost a lot more as what you did buy until now. But those are really worth the money. At least imo. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 05:32
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igs88
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 19 2018, 09:53)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Well, it is not really necessary, but i liked about IA3 that it makes it so much easier to get, even with two active slots, a possitive mana income in battle. And yes, i would say buy Crys I. Even without doing GF, it makes growing your monsters so much easier. What else? Long Gone Before Daylight is worth its money, if you do play enough to drink a daily ED. Thinking cap, yeah, you could buy it. Fun fact this is even the only XP Perk uncle does have and he wont waste any hath to a perk who will bring him very soon nothing. Tokenizer I is also a perk that is worth the hath. Or DD I. I know most of those cost a lot more as what you did buy until now. But those are really worth the money. At least imo. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Seems like Crys1 is the most possible for me, i like to see my monsters getting stronger (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) DD1 is way too far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) LGBD? I never use ED because i never play that much in a day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I hope i can buy crys1 soon enough... Thank you uncle... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 06:04
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aznknightfire
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 535
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Mar 18 2018, 19:46)  The gauntlets are good, the shield is VERY good. Forge up that block chance as much as you can. Any rapier of slaughter would be fine, but many consider the best to be Arctic, Hallowed, or Demonic. Ethereal is still good but it's better for DW style. A decent Leg rapier of slaughter can usually go for 1-3m in auction, or more if there's a lot of bidders. As soon as you do get a good rapier, get it to IW10 so you get an additional elemental strike. If you need a rapier in the meantime, I have a Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter that I got from freeshop some time ago. Let me know if you want it, it's just collecting dust in my inventory. I'll just chime in - your legendary shield has 2% block chance over mine at unforged base which is huge. Let me know if you pick up a decent rapier of slaughter at your level - maybe I'll buy it and grow into it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 06:17
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Majin Hanako
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Mar 19 2018, 07:04)  I'll just chime in - your legendary shield has 2% block chance over mine at unforged base which is huge. Let me know if you pick up a decent rapier of slaughter at your level - maybe I'll buy it and grow into it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It sounds like I ended up getting a really good shield without even realising it lol, the only way I know how to judge how good a drop I get is is by comparing it to what I currently have equipped or by asking other people, all these percentages and stuff confuse me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 06:22
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Uncle Stu
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Well i wouldnt call it an actual endgame shield. But for a selfdrop at your it is a really lucky drop and i cant see any reason for you to replace it soon. Well, tbh i cant even see the chance to replace it soon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 06:42
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 19 2018, 11:32)  Seems like Crys1 is the most possible for me, i like to see my monsters getting stronger (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) DD1 is way too far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) LGBD? I never use ED because i never play that much in a day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I hope i can buy crys1 soon enough... Thank you uncle... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I am totally bankrupted because of DD1, and it shortens me 400~500rounds in terms of DwD. It saves a lot of time if you play frequently, but it's not worth it if you just stop replacing with good, new equipments in order to save your credits to get it. Only get it when you are close to the cost. Crystal I&II should be nice and cheap, and are my next ones. Token I is actually better since rare materials are not effected by PLs, so increasing the number of your monsters is more efficient in getting money. Monsters only start to obtain high-grade frequently after around PL750(25~28 crystal packs), so this is rather a long-term investment that wouldn't benefit in the short-term, especially that HGC is only 16.5k each compared to phazons 200k and bindings of slaughters 100k+..
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Mar 19 2018, 07:04
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igs88
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 19 2018, 11:42)  I am totally bankrupted because of DD1, and it shortens me 400~500rounds in terms of DwD.
That's what i don't want to get into.... So seems like crystarium is the next target... Thanks... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 19 2018, 07:25
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VawX
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So far I only buy and plan to buy the one that gives profit:
- Postage Paid, must have, just buy it, it's cheap - Crys 1 and maybe 2 is definitely worth it, the pay off is quite fast. - Long Gone Before Daylight is probably the most profitable if you play enough to use ED everyday. - Dark Descent is good if you want to open Item World service. - Tokenizer is just very good since you can't get token from any other source.
As for the one that enhance stat, I'll probably get IA1-2, VV, EE and DD1 mmm...
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Mar 19 2018, 07:33
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 19 2018, 06:25)  EE
I hope you play mage, otherwhise it is worthless. Tbh i am not even sure if it has any use for mages.
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Mar 19 2018, 07:43
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 19 2018, 12:33)  I hope you play mage, otherwhise it is worthless. Tbh i am not even sure if it has any use for mages.
Well, at least my mana draught and potion should heal more right? And maybe I'll play mage some day... maybe mmm...
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