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The benefit of weaken is that it will be spammable (0 cooldown) once you hit level 250, so if it fails you can immediately try it again. I love sleep for dw, but if it misses the cooldown takes a while so I'd want weaken as a backup plan. For 1h, sleep reduces the damage you deal, since you'll be doing fewer counterattacks, so weaken would be the better choice. Silence is good too, but it avoids less damage than sleep with a similarly long cooldown.

i find OFC good for those rounds where you have a full 10stack, you can nuke the add's and just juggle the schoolgirls/realbosses

I see, does that mean OFC is a no go if no boss(es) exist in that round then? (Since that means all monsters die, then I will get juggled by next round's monsters)

as for Weaken Sleep and Silence, if you don't have much Mmit silence is a god send, weaken meanwhile locks them out of crits if you have poor Pmit, Sleep is a temporary shutdown but very useful in all cases. so i would say Sleep, then whichever is more important for your stats requirements (if your gear is giving you poor mitigation in a stat, that debuff is a good way to avoid getting Nuked)

The benefit of weaken is that it will be spammable (0 cooldown) once you hit level 250, so if it fails you can immediately try it again. I love sleep for dw, but if it misses the cooldown takes a while so I'd want weaken as a backup plan. For 1h, sleep reduces the damage you deal, since you'll be doing fewer counterattacks, so weaken would be the better choice. Silence is good too, but it avoids less damage than sleep with a similarly long cooldown.

Alright. I guess I was attracted to Silence because the Wiki put it as an advice against schoolgirls / ring of blood bosses. It's Weaken for 1H and Sleep for DW then. Thanks for the advice!

(Could use some advice with regards to upgrades, though)

I see, does that mean OFC is a no go if no boss(es) exist in that round then? (Since that means all monsters die, then I ...
(Could use some advice with regards to upgrades, though)

upgrade your parry, evade and ADB

Clubs get recommended as one of the weapons you should use for an offensive DW set, but not axe, why is that? Is it because of the additional burden? Would an ethereal axe be better than a non ethereal club?

Clubs get recommended as one of the weapons you should use for an offensive DW set, but not axe, why is that? Is it because of the additional burden? Would an ethereal axe be better than a non ethereal club?

because of stun and high damage. Axe sucks: no parry no stun.

Hi so very knowledgeable ATE gurus.

Is there a way to know how many battle rounds in IW an equipment will be?
I would like to IW my phase equip, please see my signature below.
I'd like to schedule my time accordingly.

Thank You

This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Oct 18 2023, 03:25

Clubs get recommended as one of the weapons you should use for an offensive DW set, but not axe, why is that? Is it because of the additional burden? Would an ethereal axe be better than a non ethereal club?

Edit: ninja'd by noni XD, yup that's the idea.

it is because the weapon itself. They both get 0 parry, thus garbage on offhand because you sacrifice 20% ADB for your offhand weapon, which is a big number for club and axe, while you gain 50% more parry, which you gain nothing for club and axe.
Club does a 3 turn stun to your enemy, which makes game easier because monsters don't attack and don't parry while being stunned.
Axe does the same thing as shortsword which makes monster bleed, and since shortsword of slaughter has almost the same ADB as an axe, and it has a fairly amount of parry and less burden. Why would people still using axe?

And in speaking of ethereal, doesn't really makes axe better. Unless your axe has an significant huge amount of more ADB than your club(i.e. 1000+) otherwise it's not a good idea to switch.

This post has been edited by Acetominaphene: Oct 18 2023, 06:23

Hi so very knowledgeable ATE gurus.

Is there a way to know how many battle rounds in IW an equipment will be?
I would like to IW my phase equip, please see my signature below.
I'd like to schedule my time accordingly.

Thank You

The wiki has an approximation here. For example, probably 83-84 rounds for your cap.

Axe does the same thing as shortsword which makes monster bleed, and since shortsword of slaughter has almost the same ADB as an axe, and it has a fairly amount of parry and less burden. Why would people still using axe?

A small correction here, assuming each weapon is peerless and with the same affixes, a shortsword has about 300 points less base damage than a club and about 800 points less base damage than an axe.

And in speaking of ethereal, doesn't really makes axe better. Unless your axe has an significant huge amount of more ADB than your club(i.e. 1000+) otherwise it's not a good idea to switch.

For DW, critical damage can go up to 100%, so unless I messed up the math again, the difference in base damage can often go up to about 1000, and there's axe's bleeding wound to consider. Your point still stands, however. Would be nice if axe had like 500 more base damage.

Clubs get recommended as one of the weapons you should use for an offensive DW set, but not axe, why is that? Is it because of the additional burden? Would an ethereal axe be better than a non ethereal club?

there is a theoretical super offensive DW set: with axe + club + heavy set, the axe does work in some way, it's just not for the normal player.

the club is almost necessary if you play DW in PFUDOR, otherwise 1/4+ of your attack will get parried, that's super sick both in offensive and defensive, in my view the club perform better defensive than waki even in tower floor 50, simply because you get less parried. the axe is out of topic in this situation

the club is almost necessary if you play DW in PFUDOR, otherwise 1/4+ of your attack will get parried, that's super sick both in offensive and defensive, in my view the club perform better defensive than waki even in tower floor 50, simply because you get less parried. the axe is out of topic in this situation

I am not sure I'm clear about why monsters parrying fewer attacks leads to greater defenses?

I am not sure I'm clear about why monsters parrying fewer attacks leads to greater defenses?

it doesn't. absolutely the waki make greater defensive than club in any real data, my last reply just means it feel more comfortable for me with using a club.
for why feel comfortable than a waki, simply because kill faster leads get fewer attacked, and the parrying from monsters super delay you kill them, especially if you accident start a new round without enough overcharge.
but beside that using a club does need more heals and sparks more

So, a club+reaper DW could work?
I can imagine a ninja in shade armor and stick in hand..

So, a club+reaper DW could work?
I can imagine a ninja in shade armor and stick in hand..

well I've asked nezu the same question few weeks ago so I'll just paste the answer here:

Generally:

• Club of Slaughter / Rapier of Balance - gives the strongest offense
• Rapier of the Nimble - off-hand compromise
• Rapier of Slaughter / Wakizashi of the Nimble - gives a stronger defense
• Wakizashi of Balance - off-hand compromise
• Shortsword of Slaughter - main-hand compromise

I've used rapier/waki and while the sheet stats show very high parry, PFUDOR + chaos tokens cancel out a good chunk of that. Debuffs will help more.

Ethereal is only important for the club insofar as the burden cannot be fully negated with a featherweight shard, but I don't think it's make-or-break.

The wiki has an approximation here. For example, probably 83-84 rounds for your cap.

Thank you so much,
now I have a clue to how many rounds and time I have to plan for.


Could you help me understand the formula, step by step.
It doesn't make sense as it uses PXP to Calc PXP, how can you use something that you don't have.
Its like stupid dictionary definitions that use the same word in a sentence thinking that will help, instead of a synonym. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (I know I'm just stupid)

Formulae for PXP
PXP(x) = PXP(1) * (1 + PXP(1)/1000)^(x-1) HUH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
Note that PXP(x) is the amount of PXP required to advance from level (x-1) to level x.
The amount of PXP required to advance from level 0 to level n is as follows:
Total PXP needed = 1000*((1+PXP(1)/1000)^n - 1)
Rounds
An Item World has rounds based on the equipment's quality. It can be approximated by:
Number of Item World Rounds = 75 * ((PXP0 - 100) / 250)^3
PXP0 is the amount of PXP required at level 0.

I decided to go to the end and work backwards like I how I figure out most things.
Set difficulty to Normal, Unequipped my staff (which is a whole another topic, you would think you have to equip it, to grind it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) ) and jumped into IW.
Added screenshots show the result.

well I've asked nezu the same question few weeks ago so I'll just paste the answer here:

<3

But before you go. What would comprise is in this case, shield?

Make me want to test it with my flesh but would need to buy a weapon never seen a leg club and the game only drops me rapiers of nimble..

Thank you so much,
now I have a clue to how many rounds and time I have to plan for.


Could you help me understand the formula, step by step.
It doesn't make sense as it uses PXP to Calc PXP, how can you use something that you don't have.
Its like stupid dictionary definitions that use the same word in a sentence thinking that will help, instead of a synonym. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (I know I'm just stupid)

The PXP for potency tier X is denoted by "PXP(X)". For your cap, for example, the PXP you need to achieve potency tier 1, PXP(1) is 359. You can see this by looking at the equipment: "Potency Tier: 0 (0 / 359)". Since you now know PXP(1), you can use the formula to compute PXP(X) for any potency tier X.

I'm not expert, I got a question.
It seems the possibility of peerless goods in Isekai "was" higher than in persistent?

and that's why so many users post purchase thread for trophies?

This post has been edited by Null2Null: Oct 19 2023, 04:59

I'm not expert, I got a question.
It seems the possibility of peerless goods in Isekai "was" higher than in persistent?

and that's why so many users post purchase thread for trophies?

Everyone gets the Follower of Snowflake Hath Perk in Isekai, so they get a Peerless Voucher for every 10m credits worth of trophies they shrine. There are more topics for buying trophies, instead of just using the market to buy them, because people want to buy the Isekai trophies using persistant credits.

In that DW, the club will be better IW overpower + butcher for more consistent damage or fatality for an occasional crit.. how do we rase that crit chance? What's the max? Have only like 30%

Also there's anything good leaving your ethereal weapon at 9pot% Saw it a couple of times.