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post Oct 12 2023, 17:07
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Can I get some kinds of examples of the equipment and styles people are using to do the higher floors in isekai? Floor 32 just took me ~30 minutes at roughly 30 levels under while using 1H.


I'm on floor 34 and I use light shade with dual wield club in main and rapier in the offhand. I'm not having diffuclty with the tower at the moment. I did get lucky duriung the early bird with shade legendaries. My plan now is to keep doing arenas and the tower up until floor 50. I might go past floor 50 this time. It depends how I feel and the gear I have. Well once I start struggling with the tower I switch to onehand. Wakizashi of the Nimble with a force shield is my goal. Also the time it takes you to conquer a floor will only increase from now. Forging your gear is also important if you want to reach the top floors. One of the most important things for isekai is to rush to lvl 300 so you can do DwD every day. That's a magnificent for sure a day. It gets important beacuse it will be one of the main sources for high grade mats. If you struggle with a tower floor you can always do arenas until you level up enough to clear it.

QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 12 2023, 07:08) *

What's a good strategy to soulfusing in Isekai, considering it's harder to get soul fragments?


Well I only like to soulfuse Legendary gear because soul fragments are somewhat limited in isekai. You have to choose between forging your gear or buying soul fragments. It might be tempting to soul fuse a magnificent right now but you might come to regret it later once a legendary drops. Its really up to you. Right now I'm spending all my credits on both. I buy soul fragments one day and the next day I buy catalysts

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post Oct 12 2023, 17:09
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Depends on your goals/plan for this season. Assuming you plan to do plenty of DW light, I'd consider soulfusing the Legendary Savage Shade Boots of the Fleet and keep looking for better equipment in other slots. Weapons make the most difference, so top priority should be to get a good club of slaughter to soulfuse. Unless you plan to go for tower 100, club of slaughter with rapier of nimble or balance should be a good combination to aim for.

Soulfusing armor makes less of an impact, so think about how much you want to spend on improving your build. At the very least it can wait until you earn some more isekai credits to buy the soul fragments from the store. I'd aim for legendary shadowdancer/fleet, but I've also soulfused 4 PAB magnificents in a past season. Keep an eye on the auctions. The prices will continue to go down as demand decreases and supply increases.

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post Oct 13 2023, 03:35
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ Oct 12 2023, 22:07) *

I'm on floor 34 and I use light shade with dual wield club in main and rapier in the offhand. I'm not having diffuclty with the tower at the moment. I did get lucky duriung the early bird with shade legendaries. My plan now is to keep doing arenas and the tower up until floor 50. I might go past floor 50 this time. It depends how I feel and the gear I have. Well once I start struggling with the tower I switch to onehand. Wakizashi of the Nimble with a force shield is my goal. Also the time it takes you to conquer a floor will only increase from now. Forging your gear is also important if you want to reach the top floors. One of the most important things for isekai is to rush to lvl 300 so you can do DwD every day. That's a magnificent for sure a day. It gets important beacuse it will be one of the main sources for high grade mats. If you struggle with a tower floor you can always do arenas until you level up enough to clear it.


Grinding XP in this mode seems tough due to equipment, but I'll try to get to 300 then. Is the parry from waki good enough in isekai to warrant using one over a rapier/shortsword? I haven't been failing any floors so far using a sword over a nimble waki but I feel like that'll change when I get to PFUDOR towers.

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post Oct 13 2023, 04:05
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QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 13 2023, 01:35) *

Grimding XP in this mode seems tough due to equipment, but I'll try to get to 300 then. Is the parry from waki good enough in isekai to warrant using one over a rapier/shortsword? I haven't been failing any floors so far using a sword over a nimble waki but I feel like that'll change when I get to PFUDOR towers.


You can clear floor 50 with just forged exquisites if you use a lot of debuffs (feathers help too)

With that said, in my experience a nimble waki is significantly slower (15%+ more turns) than a slaughter rapier, but it is a bit safer.
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post Oct 13 2023, 04:13
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QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 12 2023, 18:35) *

Grimding XP in this mode seems tough due to equipment, but I'll try to get to 300 then. Is the parry from waki good enough in isekai to warrant using one over a rapier/shortsword? I haven't been failing any floors so far using a sword over a nimble qwaki but I feel like that'll change when I get to PFUDOR towers.


Wakizashi of the Nimble gives the highest parry in the game. Its the ideal weapon for a defensive style. But you do kill very slow. In the past I would dual wield arenas and then would switch to one hand for the tower. Once you start doing DwD you'll get a Magnificent every day. It will be easier to gear up and forge. You can also play on IWBTH if PUFDOR takes too long. PUFDOR gives the best chance for Legendary thou. Still you got a lot of time to do what you want in isekai. This current season will last well into 2024.
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post Oct 13 2023, 04:41
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Alright seems like I should just take my time in general until I'm able to build up good sets for the harder content. Guess I'll be grinding arenas on Nintendo with DW for a while. Thanks for the answers.
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post Oct 13 2023, 11:43
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RE doesn't guarantee soul fragment drop? I did 3 RE so far, 2nd I don't remember but 1st and 3rd did not drop SF at all.
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post Oct 13 2023, 11:52
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RE doesn't guarantee soul fragment drop? I did 3 RE so far, 2nd I don't remember but 1st and 3rd did not drop SF at all.

Correct, details here https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Random_Encounter#Rewards
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post Oct 13 2023, 12:03
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I'm working on my dark mage equipment, which will surely take a while to gather and improve. I have a question about prof.

Guides and other posts here say dark mages should "aim" for a prof factor of 1. I've been checking using HVUtils but even with all my pieces max forged, I'm still far from that. I'm very sure I won't be able to reach a prof factor of 1 until I play as a mage for a while and get my "base" prof to at least my level. (+ the perk, that I dont have rn)

That is exactly what "aiming for a prof factor of 1" means, right? That I won't have it for a while until I actually use my equipment (and therefore, my performance as a mage will be quite shit until I reach it)

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post Oct 13 2023, 14:22
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QUOTE(Byza @ Oct 13 2023, 12:03) *

I'm working on my dark mage equipment, which will surely take a while to gather and improve. I have a question about prof.

Guides and other posts here say dark mages should "aim" for a prof factor of 1. I've been checking using HVUtils but even with all my pieces max forged, I'm still far from that. I'm very sure I won't be able to reach a prof factor of 1 until I play as a mage for a while and get my "base" prof to at least my level. (+ the perk, that I dont have rn)

That is exactly what "aiming for a prof factor of 1" means, right? That I won't have it for a while until I actually use my equipment (and therefore, my performance as a mage will be quite shit until I reach it)

yes, aim for means getting as close as possible. However, when you have low base prof, it is often much better to use 2 prof slots and use the bigger ones (legs, robe) - lower MDB and EDB with prof factor (close to) 1 gives much more damage output than raw MDB/EDB with low prof.
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post Oct 13 2023, 17:01
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 10 2023, 18:10) *

Sometimes! You'll have to grade it on a piece-by-piece basis.

I suspected as much, oh well, would be nice if there is a general rule.

QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 10 2023, 18:10) *

AoE skills in HV have some quirks to their targeting mechanics:

In short, good DW play means getting a good feel for your cooldowns, overcharge generation, how hard your FBs tends to hit, and in schoolgirl arenas, and trying to be ready ahead of time with OFC.

QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 11 2023, 07:08) *

That's correct. I forgot to add "deactivate Spirit Stance after FB" there, sorry. But if you only have like 1 orb worth of Overcharge then you don't need to deactivate it.

Fewer targets = more damage to each target.


Great, thanks for all the advices! I've been playing DW like I do 1H, to disastrous results.

My problem with <6 monsters, however, is that FB kills everyone instantly, and I'm screwed next round since FB is off for 10 turns. What would be the best way to deal with <6 monsters then?

QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 10 2023, 18:10) *

Soulfusing is unnecessary for you while you are still regularly changing equipment, but upgrading - at least to level 5 on the valuable stats - is always worthwhile and not that expensive in the long run.


For non-rare armors (I believe for rares we go for ADB) that isn't a shield, what's the important stat to upgrade? PMit?

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post Oct 14 2023, 01:53
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Upgrade Cloth Equip Question:

Since Phase Equip is so expensive to upgrade; as Crystallized Phazon +200,000 C.
I'm thinking to use non-Phase Cloth for almost 100 times cheaper upgrades.
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Magnificent Frugal Cotton Shoes of The Elementalist

I've had my Phase equip for years but never could justify the expense,
so wouldn't upgraded cotton be better than non upgraded Phase?

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post Oct 14 2023, 02:11
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Oct 13 2023, 19:53) *

Upgrade Cloth Equip Question:

Since Phase Equip is so expensive to upgrade; as Crystallized Phazon +200,000 C.
I'm thinking to use non-Phase Cloth for almost 100 times cheaper upgrades.
like my:
Magnificent Frugal Cotton Shoes of The Elementalist

I've had my Phase equip for years but never could justify the expense,
so wouldn't upgraded cotton be better than non upgraded Phase?


You need a combination of cotton and phase. More cotton after reaching your proficiency target is worth very little, so even unupgraded phase is better. See Nezu's Mage Guide for more information.

You are partially right though. I started out playing mage in arenas with forging on staff and cottons only. Staff forging is still somewhat expensive but makes a big difference (focus on mdb, edb, and the relevant prof), and cotton needs prof forged as high as you can stand. Forging a bit of evade is pretty cheap on cotton for defense. Eventually you'll want to use phazons though. The edb forging in particular makes a big impact, and is the main reason for phazons being so valuable.
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post Oct 14 2023, 14:30
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Hello
Is there a place where I can find out my total Bonus XP?
Or is it just by calculation?

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post Oct 14 2023, 17:49
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These aren't worth anything right? :

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/433888/2ef0a2699a Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus
https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/435305/d785811b36 Magnificent Demonic Oak Staff of Heimdall


Side question, is there a way to do like "equip code set" from HV utils but with other equipment in my inventory? Much like hovering your mouse on a equipment and then press C or V to open a window/tab of the equipment, but here instead you get a copy of forum code url of the equipment with the proper title to the link?

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post Oct 14 2023, 18:25
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QUOTE(cellzer @ Oct 14 2023, 14:30) *

Hello
Is there a place where I can find out my total Bonus XP?
Or is it just by calculation?

Thank

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Experience_Points

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player_multipliers = roundup(base_exp * stamina_bonus * difficulty_bonus * arena_bonus * (1 + hath_perk_bonus + training_bonus) * (1 + star_bonus) * (1 + award_bonus) * (1 + toplist_bonus) * (1 + posting_bonus))


You have:
cookies: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Toplists#Awards @ + 20% each, 10x = 200%
3 Stars: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation#Stars @ + 150%

You have posting bonus: 100%

Other stuff in that formula you need to check yourself: stamina bonus? Difficulty? Arena that you play? Hath perks? Training? Fill those in, in the formula, and there you have it.
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post Oct 14 2023, 20:40
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QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 14 2023, 10:49) *

These aren't worth anything right? :

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/433888/2ef0a2699a Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus
https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/435305/d785811b36 Magnificent Demonic Oak Staff of Heimdall


Side question, is there a way to do like "equip code set" from HV utils but with other equipment in my inventory? Much like hovering your mouse on a equipment and then press C or V to open a window/tab of the equipment, but here instead you get a copy of forum code url of the equipment with the proper title to the link?

Since I don't have a PC I'd like to know that too.
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QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 14 2023, 17:49) *

These aren't worth anything right? :

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/433888/2ef0a2699a Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus
https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/435305/d785811b36 Magnificent Demonic Oak Staff of Heimdall


Side question, is there a way to do like "equip code set" from HV utils but with other equipment in my inventory? Much like hovering your mouse on a equipment and then press C or V to open a window/tab of the equipment, but here instead you get a copy of forum code url of the equipment with the proper title to the link?

just select that item with the HV Utils checkbox in Item Inventory view, then press WTS-code button. Or use Live Percental Ranges, press 'c' to get the pop up then press 'l' and manually add the /isekai


1st one may be sellable, 2nd one is not sellable.
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post Oct 16 2023, 10:04
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For non-rare armors (I believe for rares we go for ADB) that isn't a shield, which upgrade to prioritize? PMit and basic stats first, then the rest?

Also, what's the good timing to use OFC? Since it costs 200 charge and pretty much kills any non-boss, that basically meant starting next round with <=50 charge, which is pretty bad for both 1H and DW, unless that's the last round, of course.

And asking for second opinions, between Weaken, Sleep, and Silence, which one is best to upgrade? Would the answer differ between 1H and DW?
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post Oct 16 2023, 16:37
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QUOTE(firzein @ Oct 16 2023, 11:04) *

Also, what's the good timing to use OFC? Since it costs 200 charge and pretty much kills any non-boss, that basically meant starting next round with <=50 charge, which is pretty bad for both 1H and DW, unless that's the last round, of course.

And asking for second opinions, between Weaken, Sleep, and Silence, which one is best to upgrade? Would the answer differ between 1H and DW?


i find OFC good for those rounds where you have a full 10stack, you can nuke the add's and just juggle the schoolgirls/realbosses

as for Weaken Sleep and Silence, if you don't have much Mmit silence is a god send, weaken meanwhile locks them out of crits if you have poor Pmit, Sleep is a temporary shutdown but very useful in all cases. so i would say Sleep, then whichever is more important for your stats requirements (if your gear is giving you poor mitigation in a stat, that debuff is a good way to avoid getting Nuked)
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