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post Oct 8 2023, 17:52
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Is it worth it to IW my own mage gear if I don't have Dark Descent? I can do IW on PFUDOR, but my luck with reforging is bad.

Also, if I opt to use a dark descent service I'd have to send my gear and the amnesia shards to the player right? I'm a little confused on that one.
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post Oct 8 2023, 22:21
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QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 8 2023, 15:52) *

Is it worth it to IW my own mage gear if I don't have Dark Descent? I can do IW on PFUDOR, but my luck with reforging is bad.

Also, if I opt to use a dark descent service I'd have to send my gear and the amnesia shards to the player right? I'm a little confused on that one.


yes, simply send your gear to somebody with the perk and they will send your gear back, it's just a click for them. A lot player who offer dark descent service would rather using their own shards, and for most time it's a free service.

Sending anything via moogle mail is absolutely safe, admin can monitor moogle mail and can do something in case of dispute.
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post Oct 8 2023, 23:12
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I'm still trying make a 2H+light set work, here's my current equipment set :

Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Shade Helmet of the Fleet
Legendary Ruby Shade Breastplate of Negation
Legendary Savage Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Legendary Savage Shade Leggings of the Fleet
Legendary Jade Shade Boots of the Fleet

I tried this on PFUDOR RE (about 8 enemies IIRC), imperil everyone, normal attack until I can use spirit stance. During the fight, I got my HP down to near 0 multiple times, even trigger spark life once. I can't imagine going through PFUDOR arena like this.

I notice that my body armor has negative percentile range, so it's worse than the lowest possible stat for a legendary body armor if I'm understanding this right. Is this piece armor a big reason the build is failing so much?

I'm thinking of using 1H build to do DWD, and 2H+light build other arena but at lower difficulty, as long I can go through them quickly (which is why I want the squishier but more damaging build to work).

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Another question, how would you handle soulfusing in isekai? The source of soul fragments are quite limited/expensive. I'm using a DW+light set, should I soulfuse any leg shade as soon as I can, even negation?
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post Oct 8 2023, 23:20
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Sending anything via moogle mail is absolutely safe, admin can monitor moogle mail and can do something in case of dispute.


Not always. A coupla years ago I sent a Leg Staff for IW10 service. But the service host account got hacked and equips and valuable things ended up stolen.
Tenboro later restored the equips to the account of the service runner, but apparently he made a bit of confusion and bazar'd my staff.
I only noticed a day later or so, that it didn't exist any more. 10b confirmed to me in PM that once it had been purged from bazaar, the system couldn't recover it; there is no log of its existence (characteristics, stats etc.).

The owner of the service gave me another Leg. Staff of the same type (pfx & sfx) with more or less similar level (actually about 10-15 levels higher) and capacity, so we settled it in a less ten satisfactory way for both of us.

True, it was an absolutely exceptional situation. Still, if it gets bazar'd by error, either the bazaring guy re-buy it quickly from bazaar, or it could be gone forever.

Just a caution story, not wanting to scare anyone off (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 9 2023, 07:48
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QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 8 2023, 23:12) *

I'm still trying make a 2H+light set work, here's my current equipment set :

Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Shade Helmet of the Fleet
Legendary Ruby Shade Breastplate of Negation
Legendary Savage Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
Legendary Savage Shade Leggings of the Fleet
Legendary Jade Shade Boots of the Fleet

I tried this on PFUDOR RE (about 8 enemies IIRC), imperil everyone, normal attack until I can use spirit stance. During the fight, I got my HP down to near 0 multiple times, even trigger spark life once. I can't imagine going through PFUDOR arena like this.

I notice that my body armor has negative percentile range, so it's worse than the lowest possible stat for a legendary body armor if I'm understanding this right. Is this piece armor a big reason the build is failing so much?

I'm thinking of using 1H build to do DWD, and 2H+light build other arena but at lower difficulty, as long I can go through them quickly (which is why I want the squishier but more damaging build to work).

_____

Another question, how would you handle soulfusing in isekai? The source of soul fragments are quite limited/expensive. I'm using a DW+light set, should I soulfuse any leg shade as soon as I can, even negation?

Problem is 2h weapon, not your armors. You have no block, not the extra parry of DW, no stun from your weapon. You can use Fus Do Rah to stun them, or use all kinds of debuff spells. But easiest way is to change to DW. 2h lacks defense.


QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Oct 8 2023, 23:20) *

...it was an absolutely exceptional situation. Still, if it gets bazar'd by error, either the bazaring guy re-buy it quickly from bazaar, or it could be gone forever.

Just a caution story, not wanting to scare anyone off (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

only use IW services from people who know what they are doing and use HV Utils. You can ask this upfront. HV Utils makes accidental bazaar impossible.
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post Oct 9 2023, 10:07
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Hello, I donated $20 and got my bronze star (+25% EXP) a few days ago. And yesterday I spent 250 Hath to buy a +25% EXP bonus. Are the bouns automatically activated or I need to set them manularly in some place? I feel no change after I got sum up to +50% EXP.

BTW: My Adapt Learner Training is 158 levels. If I got the bonus above. It should be (100 + 158 + 50) / (100 + 158) = 119% speed than before? Why I can't feel that?
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post Oct 9 2023, 10:34
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 9 2023, 07:48) *

Problem is 2h weapon, not your armors. You have no block, not the extra parry of DW, no stun from your weapon. You can use Fus Do Rah to stun them, or use all kinds of debuff spells. But easiest way is to change to DW. 2h lacks defense.


So 2H+light set is an error from the start? If I wanted to go 2H, I should have used a heavy set for damage mitigation? Man, I don't even remember why I started doing 2H+light set. I guess I'll go for DW then, thanks!
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post Oct 9 2023, 12:29
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On what basis can an equipment type become obsolete? Number of users? I remember using a dagger when I first started playing and then suddenly I can't find one anymore. As an axe user, should I be concerned?
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post Oct 9 2023, 14:47
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QUOTE(purinliang @ Oct 9 2023, 08:07) *

Hello, I donated $20 and got my bronze star (+25% EXP) a few days ago. And yesterday I spent 250 Hath to buy a +25% EXP bonus. Are the bouns automatically activated or I need to set them manularly in some place? I feel no change after I got sum up to +50% EXP.

BTW: My Adapt Learner Training is 158 levels. If I got the bonus above. It should be (100 + 158 + 50) / (100 + 158) = 119% speed than before? Why I can't feel that?


They activate automatically.

QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 9 2023, 10:29) *

On what basis can an equipment type become obsolete? Number of users? I remember using a dagger when I first started playing and then suddenly I can't find one anymore. As an axe user, should I be concerned?


Equipment becomes obsolete when Tenboro decides it does and makes an update where it no longer drops.
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post Oct 9 2023, 14:47
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QUOTE(purinliang @ Oct 9 2023, 09:07) *

Hello, I donated $20 and got my bronze star (+25% EXP) a few days ago. And yesterday I spent 250 Hath to buy a +25% EXP bonus. Are the bouns automatically activated or I need to set them manularly in some place? I feel no change after I got sum up to +50% EXP.

BTW: My Adapt Learner Training is 158 levels. If I got the bonus above. It should be (100 + 158 + 50) / (100 + 158) = 119% speed than before? Why I can't feel that?


They're automatically activated, yes - I am not sure what you're expecting to 'feel'!

QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 9 2023, 09:34) *

So 2H+light set is an error from the start? If I wanted to go 2H, I should have used a heavy set for damage mitigation? Man, I don't even remember why I started doing 2H+light set. I guess I'll go for DW then, thanks!


Light armor for 2H isn't a mistake, but 2H is comparatively a very weak style beyond the early levels.

QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 9 2023, 11:29) *

On what basis can an equipment type become obsolete? Number of users? I remember using a dagger when I first started playing and then suddenly I can't find one anymore. As an axe user, should I be concerned?


Equipment doesn't 'become obsolete' by any kind of process - before update 0.82, equipment was generated differently. Pre-0.82 equipment generally has much worse stats.

Daggers, scythes, ebony staffs, etc were retired in other patches (and you can see a list of other retired equipment here).


edit: o hi kamio

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post Oct 9 2023, 16:21
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QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 9 2023, 03:29) *

As an axe user, should I be concerned?


Yes axes aren't very good and you should switch weapons to either raiper, shortsword, club, katana, or wakizashi.
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post Oct 9 2023, 16:47
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 6 2023, 21:44) *

Look at the base block stat (hover mouse over block stat in the equipment pop-up.


What's the difference between base block and the block stat shown in equipment details?
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post Oct 9 2023, 16:50
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What's the best IW for sword? Butcher and fatality or something else?
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post Oct 9 2023, 16:55
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QUOTE(arthurbrown918 @ Oct 9 2023, 16:47) *

What's the difference between base block and the block stat shown in equipment details?

Stats shown in equip detail scale with the level of the equipment (or with your level if soulbound). And, these stats increase when you forge the equip. Base is always the same, doesn't scale. So this is useful for comparing equipments

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What's the best IW for sword? Butcher and fatality or something else?

If not 1h heavy: Overpower + either(Butch or Fatality)
If 1h heavy: Butch+Fatality, although I personally don't mind Overpower either. Helps a bit if you play Imperil style.
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post Oct 9 2023, 18:59
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 9 2023, 09:55) *

If 1h heavy: Butch+Fatality, although I personally don't mind Overpower either. Helps a bit if you play Imperil style.

This days I've been trying 1st imperil a group, second vital strike deleting something else.

If I already have 75% block/parry I shouldn't upgrade weapon/shield anymore?

Also, used some hath for tokenizer | and I have the sensation I'm getting more tokens.. chaos tokens. I barely keep alive my 2 monsters, don't want chaos tokens, did I make a mistake? blood tokens~~
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post Oct 9 2023, 19:26
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QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ Oct 9 2023, 18:59) *

This days I've been trying 1st imperil a group, second vital strike deleting something else.

If I already have 75% block/parry I shouldn't upgrade weapon/shield anymore?

Also, used some hath for tokenizer | and I have the sensation I'm getting more tokens.. chaos tokens. I barely keep alive my 2 monsters, don't want chaos tokens, did I make a mistake? blood tokens~~



- You need to have high block and parry, don't stop upgrading those stats. 75%? Is that 75% + 75% parry? That's quite good I'd say. If it is Block+Parry = 75% then it is not good at all.

Tokenizer : only increases Chaos Token drop chance. Best to read the wiki before making such a purchase... It does nothing with Blood Tokens.

Vital Strike: useful for Schoolgirls. For the other arena's I prefer OFC to blast all every now and then.
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post Oct 9 2023, 19:40
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Oct 9 2023, 19:47) *
Equipment becomes obsolete when Tenboro decides it does and makes an update where it no longer drops.
Right, and I'm curious about the basis of this decision. Does the game actually track what you're using, etc..

QUOTE(Nezu @ Oct 9 2023, 19:47) *

Equipment doesn't 'become obsolete' by any kind of process - before update 0.82, equipment was generated differently. Pre-0.82 equipment generally has much worse stats.

Daggers, scythes, ebony staffs, etc were retired in other patches (and you can see a list of other retired equipment here).
Ah, so that was the reason. But instead of a major overhaul, it looks like we're just getting direct upgrade through cores this time, huh? Should be safe then. Hopefully.

QUOTE(Hinoka @ Oct 9 2023, 21:21) *

Yes axes aren't very good and you should switch weapons to either raiper, shortsword, club, katana, or wakizashi.
I tried, but while other options like club and shortsword are much safer, I still prefer the sheer damage of an axe. Just fits my playstyle I guess.

Thank you all for your responses!
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post Oct 9 2023, 20:10
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 9 2023, 12:26) *

- You need to have high block and parry, don't stop upgrading those stats. 75%? Is that 75% + 75% parry? That's quite good I'd say. If it is Block+Parry = 75% then it is not good at all.

Sorry, I was reading counter. My block/parry is around 50% each.
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Tokenizer : only increases Chaos Token drop chance. Best to read the wiki before making such a purchase... It does nothing with Blood Tokens.

I did read something about it.. here? Maybe a few pages back. Can I get a refund? lol any way to get more blood tokens? I was getting used to do TTT daily.
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I don't do dwd because of them. What was the last arena without schoolgirls?
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post Oct 9 2023, 20:41
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Does anyone still use Niten ichiryuu? Is it a strong build to play?
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post Oct 9 2023, 22:12
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What deprecating spells are worth using? Maybe drain with ripened soul and spirit theft could be good?

I only use imperil for now.
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