 |
 |
 |
Ask the Experts!, Ask anything about hentaiverse. Hints for beginners |
|
Oct 6 2023, 15:46
|
firzein
Group: Members
Posts: 164
Joined: 12-February 19

|
Can someone help me translate what's usually written in WTS forums when explaining gears to be sold? For example this gear:
Magnificent Cobalt Plate Greaves of Warding (Lv.147) (147, PXP 320, Mag ranges: Dex 24%, End 34%, Pmit 8%, Mmit 65%, Crus 20%, Slas 74%, Pier 42%, Burden 4%, Interf 35%)
147 is obvious, and 320 is the max number in the potency tier's brackets. But what do the percentages mean? And can anyone help me assess whether this is a valuable gear based just on the percentages alone (and not level, prefixed, and suffixes)?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 6 2023, 15:52
|
Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,433
Joined: 19-February 16

|
QUOTE(firzein @ Oct 6 2023, 15:46)  Can someone help me translate what's usually written in WTS forums when explaining gears to be sold? For example this gear:
Magnificent Cobalt Plate Greaves of Warding (Lv.147) (147, PXP 320, Mag ranges: Dex 24%, End 34%, Pmit 8%, Mmit 65%, Crus 20%, Slas 74%, Pier 42%, Burden 4%, Interf 35%)
147 is obvious, and 320 is the max number in the potency tier's brackets. But what do the percentages mean? And can anyone help me assess whether this is a valuable gear based just on the percentages alone (and not level, prefixed, and suffixes)?
what you see there are 'percental ranges'. Dex 0% would then mean that it's the lowest that any Magnificent Plate Greaves can possible get, and Dex 100% would mean it's the maximum that any Magnificent Plate Greaves can get. That one shows 24%, so it's in the lowest 'percental quarter', i.e. 24% of the difference between the max possible and the min possible. Get the "Life Percental Ranges" script from the scirpt subforum, and you'll see the same stats. This item here is a Plate armor of Warding. Plate does not give any damage bonus. So with that, it sucks. Warding gives a boost in Magical Mitigation, but most attacks you'll face are Physical, not Magical. So it kinda sucks. Cobalt does nothing special for you, not good, not bad. Level is nice and low, but still - I wouldn't pay much for any magnificent plate. Stats have not much to do with the value of this particular item. If you have a power armor, ADB% is important for the price: higher = more value. This post has been edited by Noni: Oct 6 2023, 15:53
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 6 2023, 17:30
|
Vanz/452
Group: Members
Posts: 467
Joined: 15-September 10

|
QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 6 2023, 08:44)  For shields, block is the only stat that matters. Look at the base block stat (hover mouse over block stat in the equipment pop-up. Equipment pop-up is opened by hovering mouse over equip and pressing 'c' on keyboard). You'll find that an exquisite force shield may already have better base block than a legendary kite shield. Note that Buckler of the Barrier has extra block, and is comparable with force shield.
Easiest is to go for a magnificent force shield if you can find that. Or, shrine some noodlies for shield, that has a fairly good chance of getting a magnificent force shield (although that may become very costly at current noodly prices).
I got a couple mag force shields with only 2 stats from shrine. Guess I'll wait for the no dex buckler of the barrier i bought without knowing.. unless something better falls from the sky in 10 levels
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 6 2023, 20:33
|
Tenshi69
Lurker
Group: Recruits
Posts: 7
Joined: 8-February 10

|
HV only covers a small part of my 1920/1080 resolution monitor, how can i make so it's full screen?
|
|
|
Oct 6 2023, 22:11
|
LogJammin
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 598
Joined: 11-October 14

|
QUOTE(Tenshi69 @ Oct 6 2023, 18:33)  HV only covers a small part of my 1920/1080 resolution monitor, how can i make so it's full screen?
Press ctrl and + together until its zoomed in enough
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 04:31
|
Lady_Slayer
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,560
Joined: 20-December 16

|
QUOTE(Vanz/452 @ Oct 6 2023, 13:13)  Can anyone tell the difference between shields.. read people say force is best, bucklers bad and kite worst.
Btw looking around in my inventory found a soul bound kite is what am using till I get something better.
that is a general trend in persistent, where legendary equipments are easy to find and most melee legendary shields are cheap. If you are looking for upgrading, force shield is always a good choice, but you want to look at the base blocking. A buckler of barrier may have a higher base block than a low-roll force shield. And especially in Isekai, where you don't have many chance to get a force shield, kite shield is usually better than buckler with no pre/suffixes.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 06:22
|
justreadin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 136
Joined: 1-May 19

|
QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 6 2023, 13:29)  For the clear speed issue, switching to DW+heavy style may be faster, especially for Eternal Darkness. If you're currently using rapier of slaughter, get something like shortsword/club of balance for your off-hand weapon. If you're using rapier of the nimble then get shortsword/club of slaughter for your main hand. If you're willing to spend more then open a WTB for club of slaughter and rapier of balance. Good luck!
I do have it set to tier 5, but DW + heavy armor is faster? Is this under the idea that I lower my difficulty, and if so, at what level? Thanks for the tips.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 06:44
|
Lady_Slayer
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,560
Joined: 20-December 16

|
QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 7 2023, 04:22)  I do have it set to tier 5, but DW + heavy armor is faster? Is this under the idea that I lower my difficulty, and if so, at what level? Thanks for the tips.
since you are already lv399, you should be able to play DW at PFUDOR. If you don't feel comfortable at PFUDOR, get both your weapon a OP 5. Forge your parry. If you still don't feel comfortable, IWBTH is not a bad choice to play at.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 07:00
|
justreadin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 136
Joined: 1-May 19

|
QUOTE(Acetominaphene @ Oct 7 2023, 11:44)  since you are already lv399, you should be able to play DW at PFUDOR. If you don't feel comfortable at PFUDOR, get both your weapon a OP 5. Forge your parry. If you still don't feel comfortable, IWBTH is not a bad choice to play at.
I'm 399 in persistent yes, but my initial question was talking about isekai where I'm only 255. I can comfortably 1H my way through stuff on PFUDOR on persistent, but on isekai it doesn't seem to be that easy.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 07:12
|
Lady_Slayer
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,560
Joined: 20-December 16

|
QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 7 2023, 05:00)  I'm 399 in persistent yes, but my initial question was talking about isekai where I'm only 255. I can comfortably 1H my way through stuff on PFUDOR on persistent, but on isekai it doesn't seem to be that easy.
in isekai you probably want to play DW-light instead of DW-heavy. You will have 0 evade when equip with full power armor and on high diffculty you spark out very quickly. I'm currently playing DW in this season, IWBTH arena is a bit challenging, Nintendo feels comfortable but I'd still play the IWBTH ar. Ring of Blood at PFUDOR is kinda easy to pass. If you really want to stuck yourself into PFUDOR, playing 1H with a high block shield, 3+2 plate/power combination and a weapon with some overpower should make you feel comfortable to play with.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 08:20
|
amaimono
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 350
Joined: 10-April 11

|
QUOTE(justreadin @ Oct 7 2023, 11:22)  I do have it set to tier 5, but DW + heavy armor is faster? Is this under the idea that I lower my difficulty, and if so, at what level? Thanks for the tips.
In SG arenas, yes. In Tower, no. You'll die very quickly due to the lack of evasion/block. If you have magnificent and above quality equips across the board, you can do PFUDOR, but just do a trial run on Eternal Darkness on IWBTH first. Whatever combination of weapons you have, be sure to carry a rapier. The basic gameplay loop is: - In the 1st round, turn on Regen and Heartseeker.
- Weaken the top monster, repeat if it doesn't stick to at least 1 monster.
- Hit monster(s) and collect enough overcharge to do Spirit Stance + Frenzied Blows (3½ orb)
- Imperil the second bottom monster, repeat if it doesn't stick to at least 1 monster + Spirit Stance + Frenzied Blows on the second bottom monster.
- Finish the round off with normal attack.
- Go back to 2.
When facing multiple SGs, a combination of Spirit Stance + Iris Strike + Backstab* on one of them will take most of their health, if not outright kill them. Just do your best to start each round with enough overcharge to do Spirit Stance + Frenzied Blows, as it will help a lot. In any case, once you have enough experience, you'll know what works best for you. Good luck! *works on any round. Spirit Stance + Frenzied Blows does the same thing for a lower cost but only when there are 6+ monsters and on an isolated SG (no active monsters in two cells above and below her). Kinda hard to explain. QUOTE(Acetominaphene @ Oct 7 2023, 12:12)  I'm currently playing DW in this season, IWBTH arena is a bit challenging, Nintendo feels comfortable but I'd still play the IWBTH ar. Ring of Blood at PFUDOR is kinda easy to pass. For arenas, the key is liberal use of Weaken. This post has been edited by amaimono: Oct 7 2023, 09:18
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 11:59
|
mathl33t
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,103
Joined: 9-April 19

|
Sleep is even better than weaken for dw, but the cooldown means you might still need weaken. If you start a round with lots of monsters with a spirit stanced fb on however many monsters you can kill (3-5, target bottommost monster to hit 3 monsters, second bottom to hit 4, but only in rounds of 6+ monsters) and sleep some of the rest, there should be a lot fewer monsters left awake and alive to attack you. DW heavy loses some defense, but my fb can nuke 4 monsters instead of 3 with light, which somewhat mitigates the defense loss. Though if I mess up and start a round without enough overcharge, I'm even more screwed with heavy.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 7 2023, 23:45
|
Evyy
Group: Members
Posts: 939
Joined: 19-March 08

|
What's the strategy for isekai? Do you do all the arena every day? though the stamina seems to drain faster than persistent. Do you go to the tower every day, even if you can't clear it? For RB, should I just go FSM, shrine to get loot? Is IW worth it?
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 8 2023, 01:04
|
LogJammin
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 598
Joined: 11-October 14

|
QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 7 2023, 21:45)  What's the strategy for isekai? Do you do all the arena every day? though the stamina seems to drain faster than persistent. Do you go to the tower every day, even if you can't clear it? For RB, should I just go FSM, shrine to get loot? Is IW worth it?
Stamina drains twice as fast, but drop rate is twice as high to compensate. If you want to play indefinitely, then you can play between 400 and 600 rounds per day. This includes Tower, GF (don't bother with this in isekai), Arena, and IW. If you want to maximize xp gain, then stay above 60 stamina and clear tower every day (if you can) and/or the most XP efficient arenas available to you until you've played 400 rounds (best-to-worst XP/stamina of the highest arenas you can reach within a month of playing are in this order: 90 > 65 > 75 > 70 > 80? > 60? >> 85?). If you want to maximize profit, then you do the same arenas as the first strategy, but also the 80 and 85 round arena. If you don't really care about min/maxing or you just want a balance between xp and profit, then just do the highest level arenas you can do (and tower if you care to) until you've cleared 600 rounds (assuming you don't care about leveling as fast as possible) RoB doesn't consume stamina, and the best order of clearing them depends on if you want an FoS peerless or profit. You can sell on the market without a star, but those credits will be stuck in isekai until next season. For shrining purposes, the order is Konata > IPU > FSM > RL > SG's > TTT. For profit, it depends on what people are willing to pay for them, but I think the order is similar. Probably FSM > IPU > Konata > RL or something like that. If you clear more arenas, you'll get more blood tokens, I think it should be possible to pretty consistently do Konata, FSM, IPU every day by clearing 600 rounds of arena, or 500 arena rounds and 100 tower rounds. IW is worth doing to get IW10 on your weapon(s), but it's a pain to do and there's no stamina restoratives in isekai. On armor, it's not really worth it unless you're aiming for high tower floors (far beyond floor 50). At that point you'd want to spend a lot on forging and consumables anyway. I generally don't try to get more than one specific potency. I'll be satisfied with a couple levels of penetrator on a staff or a couple levels of juggernaut on armor.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 8 2023, 01:31
|
Evyy
Group: Members
Posts: 939
Joined: 19-March 08

|
QUOTE(LogJammin @ Oct 8 2023, 01:04)  Stamina drains twice as fast, but drop rate is twice as high to compensate. If you want to play indefinitely, then you can play between 400 and 600 rounds per day. This includes Tower, GF (don't bother with this in isekai), Arena, and IW.
If you want to maximize xp gain, then stay above 60 stamina and clear tower every day (if you can) and/or the most XP efficient arenas available to you until you've played 400 rounds (best-to-worst XP/stamina of the highest arenas you can reach within a month of playing are in this order: 90 > 65 > 75 > 70 > 80? > 60? >> 85?). If you want to maximize profit, then you do the same arenas as the first strategy, but also the 80 and 85 round arena. If you don't really care about min/maxing or you just want a balance between xp and profit, then just do the highest level arenas you can do (and tower if you care to) until you've cleared 600 rounds (assuming you don't care about leveling as fast as possible)
RoB doesn't consume stamina, and the best order of clearing them depends on if you want an FoS peerless or profit. You can sell on the market without a star, but those credits will be stuck in isekai until next season. For shrining purposes, the order is Konata > IPU > FSM > RL > SG's > TTT. For profit, it depends on what people are willing to pay for them, but I think the order is similar. Probably FSM > IPU > Konata > RL or something like that. If you clear more arenas, you'll get more blood tokens, I think it should be possible to pretty consistently do Konata, FSM, IPU every day by clearing 600 rounds of arena, or 500 arena rounds and 100 tower rounds.
IW is worth doing to get IW10 on your weapon(s), but it's a pain to do and there's no stamina restoratives in isekai. On armor, it's not really worth it unless you're aiming for high tower floors (far beyond floor 50). At that point you'd want to spend a lot on forging and consumables anyway. I generally don't try to get more than one specific potency. I'll be satisfied with a couple levels of penetrator on a staff or a couple levels of juggernaut on armor.
Thanks for the lengthy response. I suppose the peerless voucher is what to aim for, but I'm not too sure if I can reach floor 100 in time, I'll see about that. Just to be clear, do you still get peerless from shrining even if you don't have FoS hath perk in persistent? Wiki says in isekai you have 3 perk unlocked, including FoS.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 8 2023, 02:10
|
LogJammin
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 598
Joined: 11-October 14

|
QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 7 2023, 23:31)  Thanks for the lengthy response. I suppose the peerless voucher is what to aim for, but I'm not too sure if I can reach floor 100 in time, I'll see about that.
Just to be clear, do you still get peerless from shrining even if you don't have FoS hath perk in persistent? Wiki says in isekai you have 3 perk unlocked, including FoS.
Everyone has FoS in isekai. The odds of ending up with a useful peerless are quite low though, but it's nice if you like gambling. I think for most of last season, the market value of the trophies needed to get a peerless voucher was ~7m or so. Floor 100 takes a long time to reach, and each floor takes longer than the last to clear. If you want to clear fast, you have to forge a lot, and that quickly becomes very expensive. 1H mage is the fastest build for clearing tower, but it's not for everyone. You have to spam almost every debuff in the game, and it's very consumable heavy until somewhere around level 400 in my experience. But it can be extremely fast. With absurd levels of forging, I cleared floor 99 in ~8700 turns. Most people who reach floor 100 use either 1h heavy or 1h light, but I don't know how long it takes to clear with those builds.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 8 2023, 04:36
|
justreadin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 136
Joined: 1-May 19

|
I'll take the advice with DW and mess around a little bit. I have this force shield in isekai and a magnificent waki, so towers and some arenas have been pretty survivable but slow. I play 1H in persistent too for now, so I just didn't wanna have to slog through arenas twice a day slowly for rewards. Thanks for the tips.
|
|
|
Oct 8 2023, 12:05
|
Evyy
Group: Members
Posts: 939
Joined: 19-March 08

|
Does difficulty drains stamina faster, or only rounds (no matter how many turns you have to complete 1 round) you've done matter?
Also, at what point I should repair my equipment? Once it's less than 90%?
This post has been edited by Evyy: Oct 8 2023, 12:06
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Oct 8 2023, 15:11
|
Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,941
Joined: 29-January 12

|
QUOTE(Evyy @ Oct 8 2023, 11:05)  Does difficulty drains stamina faster, or only rounds (no matter how many turns you have to complete 1 round) you've done matter?
Also, at what point I should repair my equipment? Once it's less than 90%?
No, stamina drain is unaffected by difficulty (and turns). Your gear starts to lose attributes (temporarily, until repaired) when it's below 50% durability. Personally, I repair pretty often, I don't think there's any major material loss from over-repairing. This post has been edited by Nezu: Oct 8 2023, 15:11
|
|
|
Oct 8 2023, 16:04
|
Vanz/452
Group: Members
Posts: 467
Joined: 15-September 10

|
Something happened to the karma stuff? I tried to use it. Once by accident and other 2 times by not accident, only can give six hundred some some. *Thirteen year voice* back in my day we could give 1k every certain amount of time..
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
 |
 |
 |
|