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Is is possible to reset(un-unlock) a single mastery slot, or is reset all the only option?

if you mean take something out of a mastery slot so something else can go into it, you can just click the mastery on the bar at the top and it will remove it for you.

There's bucklers of force? I like the idea if I have to use a weapon + shield.. needs to be a small one.
No wonder they spark me if I get too much into clicking.

There are three types of shields - Buckler, Kite, and Force. Force is not a suffix.

Other question
Is adb 'attack damage bonus'? I saw it in the wiki but am not sure what it represents and how people come with a % number to put on auctions/shops.

Yes ADB is Attack Damage Bonus. The % comes from using a script like Live Percentile Ranges.

On Isekai, taking in consideration that Follower Of Snoflake is always active, what is the best "Ring of Blood" to play to get the max out ot shrined trophies?

Also, upgade Shrine Thropy to Leve 5 is the way, right?
Or i have to chose another level?

Thanks for the reply.

This post has been edited by Maharid: Sep 29 2023, 05:05

On Isekai, taking in consideration that Follower Of Snoflake is always active, what is the best "Ring of Blood" to play to get the max out ot shrined trophies?

Also, upgade Shrine Thropy to Leve 5 is the way, right?
Or i have to chose another level?

Thanks for the reply.

Konata > IPU > FSM > RL > SG > TTT

Last season I was able to consistently do Konata, IPU, FSM, RL daily and one SG ever other day with tokens gained by doing the following arenas: 95, 90, 85, 80, 75, 70, 65, 60. Note that this requires 620 rounds, so it is not sustainable forever.

but am not sure what it represents and how people come with a % number to put on auctions/shops.

percentage comes from the live percentile script and usually in the auction they refer to the legendary range and all other auctionable equipments are comparing to the legendary range as well.(that's why you sometimes see a percentage of negative number, and peerless item gives every stats in 100%, aka the highest roll in a legendary range.)

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new but maybe old question:

what's the best main-off combination of dw?
and what's the recommended one for early game and late game?

I don't find many guides on dw, but I heard somebody showing off his isekai grade with dual-wielding last season so I decided to play this style.

This post has been edited by Acetominaphene: Sep 29 2023, 07:13

if you mean take something out of a mastery slot so something else can go into it, you can just click the mastery on the bar at the top and it will remove it for you.

I mean refunding mastery point for the slot. I unlocked ether/spirit theft slot then realized it's useless without holy/dark magic.

I mean refunding mastery point for the slot. I unlocked ether/spirit theft slot then realized it's useless without holy/dark magic.

no refund, but you can un-slot the ability that you don't want. Then the slot is empty and can be used for another ability. Just not a different type (color).

no refund, but you can un-slot the ability that you don't want. Then the slot is empty and can be used for another ability. Just not a different type (color).

there is refund. the "Reset All" button reset all abilities and slots and refund all used points, and that's only way as long as I know. every persona has a free reset chance, after that it charge soul fragments.

but usually it's not worth to reset , or you. don't have to, just upgrade some more levels is fine

This post has been edited by what_is_name: Sep 29 2023, 14:32

(Speaking about persistent, not Isekai)

May I ask people here how do you make use of your 3 personas?

Context: I used my first and second persona for DW and 1H, respectively. I wanted to try out a mage build (just playing around, nothing serious) and do not want to blank up either of my current 2 personas. I imagine if I use my third persona, and didn't like it later on, I can just reset the abilities in my third persona to make it blank again, and the only thing I lose is just some soul fragments. But since this is my last free persona, I wanted to know first that I do not do something catastrophically irreversible.

(Speaking about persistent, not Isekai)

May I ask people here how do you make use of your 3 personas?

Context: I used my first and second persona for DW and 1H, respectively. I wanted to try out a mage build (just playing around, nothing serious) and do not want to blank up either of my current 2 personas. I imagine if I use my third persona, and didn't like it later on, I can just reset the abilities in my third persona to make it blank again, and the only thing I lose is just some soul fragments. But since this is my last free persona, I wanted to know first that I do not do something catastrophically irreversible.

it's possible to use all melee type in one persona, as long as you don't care about the PAB distribute, they make tiny different actually. just check the "Use Separate Ability Set Assigments" in settings.
it's also possible to use all 4 type of elemental mage in one persona, just you need a bit more abilities points training. use soul fragments to reset the abilities is also OK if you really want to.
well but typicality, people use 1H in a standalone persona, and use all other melee in one persona. 2 types of mage can be used in one persona without need that much training and switching, and beyond that you'd better create another persona.
usually, if a player play more than 3 type of playstyle, then he may be rich and high level enough to make more persona, that make things easier. training the 4th persona is cheaper than training enough abilities points to make 4 elemental mage in one persona BTW

new but maybe old question:

what's the best main-off combination of dw?
and what's the recommended one for early game and late game?

I don't find many guides on dw, but I heard somebody showing off his isekai grade with dual-wielding last season so I decided to play this style.

Generally:

• Club of Slaughter / Rapier of Balance - gives the strongest offense
• Rapier of the Nimble - off-hand compromise
• Rapier of Slaughter / Wakizashi of the Nimble - gives a stronger defense
• Wakizashi of Balance - off-hand compromise
• Shortsword of Slaughter - main-hand compromise

I've used rapier/waki and while the sheet stats show very high parry, PFUDOR + chaos tokens cancel out a good chunk of that. Debuffs will help more.

Ethereal is only important for the club insofar as the burden cannot be fully negated with a featherweight shard, but I don't think it's make-or-break.

Konata > IPU > FSM > RL > SG > TTT

Last season I was able to consistently do Konata, IPU, FSM, RL daily and one SG ever other day with tokens gained by doing the following arenas: 95, 90, 85, 80, 75, 70, 65, 60. Note that this requires 620 rounds, so it is not sustainable forever.

Thanks for the reply, this is useful but not exactly what i want.

I'd like to know if someone have done some math and can tell what single round or ROB is the most valuable.

So is better to do Konata ONLY, FSM ONLY, and so on.

It is probably FSM but i want to be sure, i play little so i want to maximize.

Thanks to anyone that can help me with this (i'm not godd at math at all).

Alright, thanks for the answer. But another question if I may (still in persistent)

For around my level (200), how much should one invest on gears (other than buying and owning them, of course)?

I thought that since levels come up pretty fast and great drops are rare, I shouldn't invest anything and just replace with better gears as I level up. But from conversations here and there, I get the impression that I should upgrade my gears five times, and also increase IW to 10, even if it's not an ideal gear (like a Balance Rapier instead of Slaughter Rapier for 1H).

And if I should indeed invest, would there be a recommended order, e.g. weapons first, or highest quality armor first, or something else?

This post has been edited by firzein: Sep 30 2023, 00:17

Thanks for the reply, this is useful but not exactly what i want.

I'd like to know if someone have done some math and can tell what single round or ROB is the most valuable.

So is better to do Konata ONLY, FSM ONLY, and so on.

It is probably FSM but i want to be sure, i play little so i want to maximize.

Thanks to anyone that can help me with this (i'm not godd at math at all).

I did do that math. That's where that ranking comes from.



Do the ones that you can reliably do consistently in descending order of shrine value to net token loss ratio. You'll need to figure out how many tokens you're getting per day, then use that to figure out how many RoB you should do.

For example, you get 1 token per day? Just Konata.
3 tokens per day? Konata every day, then also IPU on the days that you have enough for both.
6 per day? You can do Konata and IPU every day, and FSM on the days your total token count after Konata and IPU is 5
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This post has been edited by LogJammin: Sep 30 2023, 00:31

I sound like a broken record, but doing arena in persistent at this level is a chore. I can do DWD at PFUDOR difficulty with 1H build but it's such as slog I end up procrastinating a lot. I just did now at Hell difficulty and it still feels just as slow (took several hours, because again I couldn't do it in one sitting). I hardly ever do the high end arena anymore because it's just time consuming (maybe once a month if I remember to play HV). Not that I'm doing the lower arena much either because it's still slow for little gain.

In contrast when I play Isekai (although I'm using a DW+light build, a mix of exquisite,superior,magni equipment) I'm breezing through rounds, normal mobs take 1-3 attacks to die on Nintendo difficulty. It ends up being pretty fun. I've got a 2H+light in persistent, with a full leg set (mix of shade and leather), yet it has a hard time clearing one arena on Normal difficulty.

What to do to make persistent build fun for someone like me who is pretty much not really into hard grind?

This post has been edited by Evyy: Sep 30 2023, 00:44

I did do that math. That's where that ranking comes from.



Do the ones that you can reliably do consistently in descending order of shrine value to net token loss ratio. You'll need to figure out how many tokens you're getting per day, then use that to figure out how many RoB you should do.

For example, you get 1 token per day? Just Konata.
3 tokens per day? Konata every day, then also IPU on the days that you have enough for both.
6 per day? You can do Konata and IPU every day, and FSM on the days your total token count after Konata and IPU is 5
...

That's if you seeking for shrine value, if you just selling them you should just do FSM, no?

That's if you seeking for shrine value, if you just selling them you should just do FSM, no?

The original question was about shrine value.

For market value, you can calculate it yourself. Trophy prices tend to fluctuate, and there's often a different price if buying them with pC vs ISK. Right now, noodles and horns are high enough that FSM, IPU, and TTT might be worth it for profit, but the others? I don't know, and I'm too lazy to add them to my spreadsheet.

I did do that math. That's where that ranking comes from.

Do the ones that you can reliably do consistently in descending order of shrine value to net token loss ratio. You'll need to figure out how many tokens you're getting per day, then use that to figure out how many RoB you should do.

For example, you get 1 token per day? Just Konata.
3 tokens per day? Konata every day, then also IPU on the days that you have enough for both.
6 per day? You can do Konata and IPU every day, and FSM on the days your total token count after Konata and IPU is 5

That's if you seeking for shrine value, if you just selling them you should just do FSM, no?

Ok, thanks to both, for now i will just do Konata every day, i plan to stop after reaching tower level 20 so one day i'll finish the Tokens.

After i het the last thing i need i'll do FSM to sell them.

What's a mage good for?

Any budget start element for mage build?

(Speaking about persistent, not Isekai)

May I ask people here how do you make use of your 3 personas?

Context: I used my first and second persona for DW and 1H, respectively. I wanted to try out a mage build (just playing around, nothing serious) and do not want to blank up either of my current 2 personas. I imagine if I use my third persona, and didn't like it later on, I can just reset the abilities in my third persona to make it blank again, and the only thing I lose is just some soul fragments. But since this is my last free persona, I wanted to know first that I do not do something catastrophically irreversible.

dont't worry nothing irreversible. Just takes soulfrags which in the end you'll have infinite supply.

I sound like a broken record, but doing arena in persistent at this level is a chore. I can do DWD at PFUDOR difficulty with 1H build but it's such as slog I end up procrastinating a lot. I just did now at Hell difficulty and it still feels just as slow (took several hours, because again I couldn't do it in one sitting). I hardly ever do the high end arena anymore because it's just time consuming (maybe once a month if I remember to play HV). Not that I'm doing the lower arena much either because it's still slow for little gain.

In contrast when I play Isekai (although I'm using a DW+light build, a mix of exquisite,superior,magni equipment) I'm breezing through rounds, normal mobs take 1-3 attacks to die on Nintendo difficulty. It ends up being pretty fun. I've got a 2H+light in persistent, with a full leg set (mix of shade and leather), yet it has a hard time clearing one arena on Normal difficulty.

What to do to make persistent build fun for someone like me who is pretty much not really into hard grind?

You could try mage when you level up to let's say 350 or so. And why not try DW in persistent as well? I find that style more fun than 1h.

What's a mage good for?

Any budget start element for mage build?

To kill Schoolgirls quickly. Any elemental mage style is good to start with. Don't start with Holy - worst style unless you have a lot of credits then it can become the best style. And Dark - I switched to dark after reaching LV 500 with cold - I guess you could start with dark but for proficiency and mana consumption, elemental is easier to get going. And cheaper, I guess. Budget: 10m is possible, 20-30m is better. Forge your gear - that is expensive. Don't buy near-perfect stuff.



This post has been edited by Noni: Sep 30 2023, 09:36