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Jul 27 2023, 08:37
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SmokinWeeb
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Got a lucky drop in RoB and went a few rounds in IW to try and increase potency, but I'm not sure what I'm seeing. Potency is tier 3, and it looks like Elecproof and Windproof are unlocked, but they don't show on the armor stats (see below). Are they not really unlocked, do I need more forge exp to activate, or ??? (IMG:[ i.pixl.li] https://i.pixl.li/IW25a98272a50fb4dada.png)
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Jul 27 2023, 10:16
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Ingvar_77
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Which weapons are better? 
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Jul 27 2023, 12:19
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(SmokinWeeb @ Jul 27 2023, 07:37)  Got a lucky drop in RoB and went a few rounds in IW to try and increase potency, but I'm not sure what I'm seeing. Potency is tier 3, and it looks like Elecproof and Windproof are unlocked, but they don't show on the armor stats (see below). Are they not really unlocked, do I need more forge exp to activate, or ??? (IMG:[ i.pixl.li] https://i.pixl.li/IW25a98272a50fb4dada.png) Look in "Damage mitigation", your armor has "Wind +4.00%" whic is the effect of 1 level of Windproof. Likewise, "Elec 4.00%" is the effect of 2 level of Elecproof. That's the way it works. Works as intended (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jul 27 2023, 12:25
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Ingvar_77 @ Jul 27 2023, 09:16)  Which weapons are better?  As it is, the rapier, even if it doesnt have the third PAB. However, if you intend to soulfuse and you still need the increased accuracy of the Balance shortsword, they are probably roughly equivalent for 1H; but they would require subtly different playstyle, mind you. The shortsword would need full Imperil on all monsters.
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Jul 27 2023, 12:35
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SmokinWeeb
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jul 27 2023, 12:19)  Look in "Damage mitigation", your armor has "Wind +4.00%" whic is the effect of 1 level of Windproof. Likewise, "Elec 4.00%" is the effect of 2 level of Elecproof. That's the way it works. Works as intended (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Ah that makes sense, thanks. I was expecting it to show up in blue text under "Upgrades and Enhancements", but as long as it's there I don't care how it's displayed.
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Jul 27 2023, 14:53
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Nezu
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QUOTE(SmokinWeeb @ Jul 27 2023, 11:35)  Ah that makes sense, thanks. I was expecting it to show up in blue text under "Upgrades and Enhancements", but as long as it's there I don't care how it's displayed.
That 'Wind +4.00' line under Damage Mitigations wasn't there before. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 27 2023, 16:58
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Shank
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You are probably using the live percentiles script, in which case it's negative because it's using legendary ranges and you are looking at an exquisite equip.
The stats aren't actually in the negative, all that script does is show you the position between the known minimum and the known maximum (peerless) of legendary ranges.
Forged stats will show you what it will be full forge, unforged will show you what the stats will be with no forging.
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Jul 27 2023, 17:24
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siegetanks
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jul 27 2023, 16:58)  You are probably using the live percentiles script, in which case it's negative because it's using legendary ranges and you are looking at an exquisite equip.
The stats aren't actually in the negative, all that script does is show you the position between the known minimum and the known maximum (peerless) of legendary ranges.
Forged stats will show you what it will be full forge, unforged will show you what the stats will be with no forging.
I did the same with a Superior staff and it's all positive value. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/76184182/d2f70e2893Does that mean the Superior version is much much stronger than the Exquisite?
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Jul 27 2023, 17:25
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Shank
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Can you screenshot both
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Jul 27 2023, 17:52
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siegetanks
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Here it is. [ imgur.com] https://imgur.com/EMoicEbThis post has been edited by siegetanks: Jul 27 2023, 17:57
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Jul 28 2023, 02:31
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LogJammin
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QUOTE(siegetanks @ Jul 27 2023, 15:52)  If you look at the bottom of the box, it says "Sup ranges" and "Exq ranges" on the respective equips. For the exquisite, some of the stats on that staff are below the lowest known value (for exquisite staves of that type) in the database that the script uses (which I think doesn't update anymore). The ranges are less accurate the worse the quality is, since most of the active players only care about magnificent or above and just sell/salvage lesser equips, so when the database did update regularly most of those equips wouldn't have been submitted to it anyway.
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Jul 28 2023, 05:32
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siegetanks
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jul 28 2023, 02:31)  If you look at the bottom of the box, it says "Sup ranges" and "Exq ranges" on the respective equips. For the exquisite, some of the stats on that staff are below the lowest known value (for exquisite staves of that type) in the database that the script uses (which I think doesn't update anymore).
The ranges are less accurate the worse the quality is, since most of the active players only care about magnificent or above and just sell/salvage lesser equips, so when the database did update regularly most of those equips wouldn't have been submitted to it anyway.
So in other words, I'm keeping the worst Exq Red Wood Surtr staff ever in history. That's ...amazing, in a way. Think I kinda understand what's going on now though, thanks.
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Jul 29 2023, 06:21
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SmokinWeeb
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How good are Ethereal weapons compared to counterparts of the same quality level? After reading through the wiki, I wanted to get my hands on an Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter for low level (currently 201) one handed mele fighting. The other day, I saw one in the Shop (superior quality), and snagged it. It's about 90 levels ahead of me, and it'll be a bit before I have enough fragments soulfuse it. OTOH, I have a piece magnificent power armor I expect I'll be using for a long time, and I have enough Soul Fragments to fuse that now.
I kinda want to wait and fuse the Rapier first, expecting it'll vastly out perform my current superior rapier of slaughter. But having no experience with Ethereal weapons I'm not sure it's worth the wait.
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Jul 29 2023, 08:42
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Noni
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QUOTE(SmokinWeeb @ Jul 29 2023, 06:21)  How good are Ethereal weapons compared to counterparts of the same quality level? After reading through the wiki, I wanted to get my hands on an Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter for low level (currently 201) one handed mele fighting. The other day, I saw one in the Shop (superior quality), and snagged it. It's about 90 levels ahead of me, and it'll be a bit before I have enough fragments soulfuse it. OTOH, I have a piece magnificent power armor I expect I'll be using for a long time, and I have enough Soul Fragments to fuse that now.
I kinda want to wait and fuse the Rapier first, expecting it'll vastly out perform my current superior rapier of slaughter. But having no experience with Ethereal weapons I'm not sure it's worth the wait.
Ethereal is not very useful, it's nice at low level. Superior is definitely not good enough to soulfuse. It's easy to find an exquisite weapon at your level if you play at high difficulty. Or you can Shrine a Noodly.
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Jul 30 2023, 21:01
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Valdragon
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What would be the best use of Token of Bloods if all I cared about was Shrine Rank?
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Jul 30 2023, 21:31
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(Valdragon @ Jul 30 2023, 16:01)  What would be the best use of Token of Bloods if all I cared about was Shrine Rank?
It depends on how many tokens you earn per day. It is best to play only Flying Spaghetti Monster every day. If you get more than 5 a day, use 5 a day and save what is left to gather 10, then you can play Triple Trio and the Tree.
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Jul 30 2023, 22:17
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LogJammin
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QUOTE(Valdragon @ Jul 30 2023, 19:01)  What would be the best use of Token of Bloods if all I cared about was Shrine Rank?
Assuming this is for shrining in Isekai, Konata > IPU > FSM > Real Life > other SGs > TTT If you spend all of your daily stamina on arenas (600 rounds), you should be able to consistently do at Konata, FSM, IPU, every day, and Real Life too every other day. If you're above level 400 you can do Real Life every day and one SG every other day.  QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jul 30 2023, 19:31)  It depends on how many tokens you earn per day. It is best to play only Flying Spaghetti Monster every day.
If you get more than 5 a day, use 5 a day and save what is left to gather 10, then you can play Triple Trio and the Tree.
TTT is actually the least efficient in terms of shrine value
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Jul 31 2023, 01:22
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jul 30 2023, 17:17)  TTT is actually the least efficient in terms of shrine value
In fact, I never made this calculation. I gave the answer more based on the selling value. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jul 31 2023, 07:38
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anon7631
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The wiki says random encounters don't have any boost to monster stats, so why is it that they sometimes feel so much more brutal than arena fights with the same number of enemies? I just had to flee from one, which is the first time I've done that in who knows how long. I almost forgot the option existed. But I spent that entire encounter healing. With Cure, Full-Cure, Health Potion, Health Elixir, and Spirit Potion all on cooldown, barely any Spirit left after three procs of Spark of Life, and already back down below half health, all before I even killed a single monster, I didn't have much choice.
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