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May 31 2023, 04:59
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redaihho
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What is the best build for clearing The Arena fast? I am level 282 running Rapier + Shield. It takes me about an hour 40 minutes to clear Eternal Darkness on PFUDOR and I feel like I'm doing something mindbogglingly wrong. I don't find it difficult, but it just takes an insane amount of time because I'm not outputting enough damage.
What weapons do I go for to cut down the clear time? Also, are scrolls worth it? Scroll of the Avatar and Scroll of the Gods feel really nice, they basically reduce my chances of dying to zero but they're like 1.5k credits in total per pop and I'm not totally sure if they're cutting down on my profits too much.
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May 31 2023, 05:43
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jantch
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QUOTE(redaihho @ May 30 2023, 22:59)  What is the best build for clearing The Arena fast? I am level 282 running Rapier + Shield. It takes me about an hour 40 minutes to clear Eternal Darkness on PFUDOR and I feel like I'm doing something mindbogglingly wrong. I don't find it difficult, but it just takes an insane amount of time because I'm not outputting enough damage.
What weapons do I go for to cut down the clear time? Also, are scrolls worth it? Scroll of the Avatar and Scroll of the Gods feel really nice, they basically reduce my chances of dying to zero but they're like 1.5k credits in total per pop and I'm not totally sure if they're cutting down on my profits too much.
Someone will do a better job of answering this, but as long as I'm here... Is the rapier ethereal or IWed to 10 to change the damage type to void? Have you forged any of your equipment? Any power armor, or just plate? Are your abilities set? Are you using spirit stance? Are you using imperil on the schoolgirls? While haste and shadow veil cut your chances of dying, they can actually make it take longer to kill monsters because the monsters have less of a chance to take damage from crashing into your shield.
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May 31 2023, 07:06
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redaihho
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> QUOTE While haste and shadow veil cut your chances of dying, they can actually make it take longer to kill monsters because the monsters have less of a chance to take damage from crashing into your shield. This definitely helped a ton, thanks.
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May 31 2023, 07:43
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Valdragon
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So I tried out Isekai. I already know this Season's going to end in less than a month, so I'm just testing the waters. Maybe I'll shoot for Floor 30 for the permanent +1.
Does anything carry over Training-wise? For example, would Adept Learner and Scavenger do their thing, or is everything just base-lined?
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May 31 2023, 07:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(Valdragon @ May 31 2023, 07:43)  So I tried out Isekai. I already know this Season's going to end in less than a month, so I'm just testing the waters. Maybe I'll shoot for Floor 30 for the permanent +1.
Does anything carry over Training-wise? For example, would Adept Learner and Scavenger do their thing, or is everything just base-lined?
- There is absolutely no way to know if the season will end in a month, but we know for sure that the old 'season' timelines don't apply anymore. So the date of June 20 is just a date, nothing to do with isekai anymore. So I'd say go for it. No. Only credits, soulfused items, cores and peerlesses.
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May 31 2023, 07:53
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Valdragon
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Oops, my mistake in not being clear. I mean do my Training bonuses affect my Isekai persona? Do my 10 points in Adept Learner mean I get the 10% extra EXP in Isekai?
Also, where do Soul Fragments come from in Isekai? Whenever I trigger a random battle, it takes me back to Persistent.
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May 31 2023, 07:59
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Noni
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QUOTE(Valdragon @ May 31 2023, 07:53)  Oops, my mistake in not being clear. I mean do my Training bonuses affect my Isekai persona? Do my 10 points in Adept Learner mean I get the 10% extra EXP in Isekai?
Also, where do Soul Fragments come from in Isekai? Whenever I trigger a random battle, it takes me back to Persistent.
no, persistent training does not affect isekai. You gain extra EXP % by climbing tower. Soulfrags: 10 per tower floor that you clear, rest you need to buy for 1000 isk per frag. Which is crazy expensive....
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May 31 2023, 12:36
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kirua43
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Hi everybody, just want to know, does MM stand up for "message via forum" OR "message via moogle mail" , thanks for the answer
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May 31 2023, 13:24
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kirua43
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thanks a lot
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May 31 2023, 13:26
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softporn only
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ May 28 2023, 05:37)  I think its going to be tough to reach floor 50 as niten. I'd try one hand with a force shield. You might have an easier time reaching floor 50 with that style.
I dropped a froce shield but can't find it in my inventory.... Style.. One question about Nitten If I replace katana by a mace, does it still work? Because stun soudn sexy. Ha no it don't... This post has been edited by softporn only: May 31 2023, 13:44
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May 31 2023, 18:28
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Hinoka
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QUOTE(softporn only @ May 31 2023, 04:26)  I dropped a froce shield but can't find it in my inventory....
Style.. One question about Nitten If I replace katana by a mace, does it still work? Because stun soudn sexy.
Ha no it don't...
I think that will be worse. Two hand has the least survability for melee in the game. Dual wielding a club and a rapier will let you stun monsters and its a little similar to Niten. But if you aim is floor 50 of the tower then one hand with force shield will be the easiest path to reach it. Make sure your inventory isn't full. That will happen if your inventory is full. Its an easy way to lose good items and not even realize it.
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May 31 2023, 21:10
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jantch
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QUOTE(softporn only @ May 31 2023, 07:26)  I dropped a froce shield but can't find it in my inventory....
Style.. One question about Nitten If I replace katana by a mace, does it still work? Because stun soudn sexy.
Ha no it don't...
If you like stun, you could try DW with a club in your main hand. I don't know what your Isekai level is, but if you're around 200 I could send you this.
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May 31 2023, 23:13
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trutta
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I'm using ethereal rapier and shield, and I read that ethereal damage ignores defenses - is the rapier proc useless in this case and would I be better off with i.e. a club?
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Jun 1 2023, 00:52
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LogJammin
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QUOTE(trutta @ May 31 2023, 21:13)  I'm using ethereal rapier and shield, and I read that ethereal damage ignores defenses - is the rapier proc useless in this case and would I be better off with i.e. a club?
Ethereal makes the weapon deal void damage, and there is no specific mitigation for void damage. Physical mitigation still applies, so the proc will still work. The Imperil spell has a similar effect (they also stack), and is more consistent as long as you're comfortable using it (try it on the schoolgirls, if nothing else). Rapier or Shortsword are ideal for 1H, don't use Clubs or Axes since they don't have parry, and a Wakizashi only has niche uses for 1H melee. If the rapier was not ethereal, then it would go through the monsters piercing mitigation (non-ethereal/non-IW10 rapiers deal piercing damage) as well as physical mitigation. With void, it only has to go through the physical mitigation layer, so it will hurt the monster more. I think this works the same for the strikes, where for example a wind strike from a Tempestuous weapon would go through wind mitigation and physical mitigation, but void strike (ethereal) would only have to go through physical mitigation.
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Jun 1 2023, 14:46
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softporn only
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ May 31 2023, 18:28)  I think that will be worse. Two hand has the least survability for melee in the game. Dual wielding a club and a rapier will let you stun monsters and its a little similar to Niten. But if you aim is floor 50 of the tower then one hand with force shield will be the easiest path to reach it. Make sure your inventory isn't full. That will happen if your inventory is full. Its an easy way to lose good items and not even realize it.
I tried this in PFDOR grindfest replacing rapier by a wakazashi. It worked for like 12 floor but that was tense, stunning is randomand blinding hey... I would need to invest in faster and better blind to make it work but I can't afford it right now. And there is no domino strike chances... I always empty my inventiry of junk I was just on a dropping frenzy... Wakasashi seem to be the way with parry and bleeding... But If find oen handed erff... It does not dela damamge quicly enough The mace seem like a good alternative, I tested in in one of the advanced arena challenges it worked just fine. Great clave does good dammage against bosses not to mention your use the second skill and third skill in a follow up. It is not as damamging as nitten but it does work fine. P.S : in persistant I got some noodle appendage, and I was wondering what the fuck shrine value does? P.P.S : Is phase armor really worh it? Since I can't afford the upgrade I am thinking cotton with uppgrade is betetr.... Because I cnanot afford cistalised phazon... P.P.PS : I made a second persona in peristent I have a mix of light and cloth armor.. And teh casting speed perk why I do not have any cast speed bonuses? This post has been edited by softporn only: Jun 2 2023, 13:53
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Jun 2 2023, 03:58
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Hinoka
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QUOTE(softporn only @ Jun 1 2023, 05:46)  I tried this in PFDOR grindfest replacing rapier by a wakazashi. It worked for like 12 floor but that was tense, stunning is randomand blinding hey... I would need to invest in faster and better blind to make it work but I can't afford it right now. And there is no domino strike chances...
I always empty my inventiry of junk I was just on a dropping frenzy...
Wakasashi seem to be the way with parry and bleeding... But If find oen handed erff... It does not dela damamge quicly enough
The mace seem like a good alternative, I tested in in one of the advanced arena challenges it worked just fine. Great clave does good dammage against bosses not to mention your use the second skill and third skill in a follow up. It is not as damamging as nitten but it does work fine.
P.S : in persistant I got some noodle appendage, and I was wondering what the fuck shrine value does?
P.P.S : Is pahse armro really worh it? Since I can't afford the upgrade I am thinking cotton with uppgrade is betetr.... Because I cnanot afford cistalised phazon...
Wakizashi with a force shield is probably the best defensive style in the game but yes you kill monsters really slow. But hey you'll easily reach floor 50 that way. During the first isekai season I would dual wield the arenas and then switch to one hand with force shield for the tower. You can probably do something similar but if you try floor 45+ with niten or mace you'll have a rough time. Noodle Appendages are great to get Legendary gear. I would shrine your noodles and sell the rest of the trophies on the market. Shrine value is how many trophies you have shrined. 10 million worth of trophies will get you a Peerless Voucher if you have the Follower of Snowflake Perk. A Peerless Voucher will give you Peerless gear at the shrine. Phase armor is worth it in my opinion but you have to spend an incredible amount of credits in order to be effective. If you are going for a 3 phase 2 cotton set up you'll need 300 phazons to upgrade radiant phase gear. If you do charged you'll only need half of that. I wouldn't worry about phase armor right now. I would focus on improving your melee gear until you are set up in a way where you can do arenas effectively. Then if you want to do arenas faster and don't mind spending an incredible amount of credits I would switch to a mage playstyle.
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Jun 2 2023, 13:57
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softporn only
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Well For teh twoer let's stick to level 30/40 then. Because I do'nt like the idea of letting the ennemy monster kinda you know.... Building up their MP and SP.
Now I am decided, for my second personna in pesistant and in Isekai it is going to be shade armor..... Damn teh wisdom bonuses. But teh question is how to get good shae armor?
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Jun 3 2023, 03:40
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ultimaflaral
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Question for heavy 1h rapier build. I'm building an ethereal rapier of slaughter. I've been assuming Butcher 5 is most important. Is this correct? Other than butcher, I feel pretty sure that Swift Strike is to be avoided, but is Overpower or Fatality better?
UF
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Jun 3 2023, 05:07
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Nezu
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QUOTE(ultimaflaral @ Jun 3 2023, 02:40)  Question for heavy 1h rapier build. I'm building an ethereal rapier of slaughter. I've been assuming Butcher 5 is most important. Is this correct? Other than butcher, I feel pretty sure that Swift Strike is to be avoided, but is Overpower or Fatality better?
UF
It's pretty minor between the two - I like overpower for consistency, fatality is slightly better on paper without consideration of overkill.
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