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Apr 18 2023, 10:27
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trogon
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Question: Does an elemental strike on a melee weapon count as a spell? In other words, suppose I have a "fiery" weapon with a fire strike. Would upgrading the weapon's "fire spell damage" increase the damage that the fire strike does or just fire spells (which as a pure melee attacker I would never use?)
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Apr 18 2023, 10:32
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Nezu
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QUOTE(trogon @ Apr 18 2023, 09:27)  Question: Does an elemental strike on a melee weapon count as a spell? In other words, suppose I have a "fiery" weapon with a fire strike. Would upgrading the weapon's "fire spell damage" increase the damage that the fire strike does or just fire spells (which as a pure melee attacker I would never use?)
No, strikes are considered physical damage iirc
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Apr 18 2023, 11:03
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Lady_Slayer
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QUOTE(trogon @ Apr 18 2023, 08:27)  Question: Does an elemental strike on a melee weapon count as a spell? In other words, suppose I have a "fiery" weapon with a fire strike. Would upgrading the weapon's "fire spell damage" increase the damage that the fire strike does or just fire spells (which as a pure melee attacker I would never use?)
upgrade spell dmg increase your fiery spell(t1 t2 t3 fire spell). it won't increase your melee dmg. it increase a little when you playing 1H mage(in about 10% or less depends on your total edb).
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Apr 19 2023, 00:43
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trogon
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Another question, this time about amnesia shards: Is there any trick to getting them? I see you have to play on Hell or higher for them to drop, but I play on IWBTH and have never once gotten a single amnesia shard drop in the entire time I've played HV. It seems odd that I've gotten more crystalized phazons and legendary equipment drops than I have amnesia shards, when they sell in the marketplace for a much lower price and it seems that everyone doing IW is always using tons of them. Where do they all come from? I never play grindfest - is that where they drop?
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Apr 19 2023, 01:27
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Lady_Slayer
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QUOTE(trogon @ Apr 18 2023, 22:43)  Another question, this time about amnesia shards: Is there any trick to getting them? I see you have to play on Hell or higher for them to drop, but I play on IWBTH and have never once gotten a single amnesia shard drop in the entire time I've played HV. It seems odd that I've gotten more crystalized phazons and legendary equipment drops than I have amnesia shards, when they sell in the marketplace for a much lower price and it seems that everyone doing IW is always using tons of them. Where do they all come from? I never play grindfest - is that where they drop?
you are just lucky and haven't play as many round as the drop rate normalized. A lot of them are dropped from PFest where grinders do a lot of grinds. But phazons they almost only come from monster lab. If you play more hentaiverse fightings you wont say that you drop a lot of legendary weapons. Mostly you will get magnificents and some legendaries, and most of them come from the battle clear bonus of DwD, PGC and SPL.
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Apr 19 2023, 04:16
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sogeth
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Does anyone have a clear understanding of the queing behavior when updating sell and buy orders in the market? Consider this scenario: - I place a sell order for 10 Happy Pills at 600 credits (and nobody else has any for sale at 600 right then).
- Noni places a sell order for 1 Happy Pill at 600 credits.
- I update my sell order with an additional Happy Pill at 600 credits.
Now there are 12 Happy Pills for sale at 600 credits. In what order are those Pills queued? That is, if someone buys 1 Happy Pills for 600 credits, is Noni's Happy Pill sold, or is mine? By updating my order, do I cede my first position in the queue to Noni? Similarly, what happens to my Happy Pill's queue position(s) if, instead of adding a pill in step 3, I reduce my sell order from 10 to 9? I could ask someone to test this with me (with a low volume, low value item), but I do not want to appear to be abusing or manipulating the market.
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Apr 19 2023, 07:37
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(trogon @ Apr 18 2023, 16:43)  Another question, this time about amnesia shards: Is there any trick to getting them? I see you have to play on Hell or higher for them to drop, but I play on IWBTH and have never once gotten a single amnesia shard drop in the entire time I've played HV. It seems odd that I've gotten more crystalized phazons and legendary equipment drops than I have amnesia shards, when they sell in the marketplace for a much lower price and it seems that everyone doing IW is always using tons of them. Where do they all come from? I never play grindfest - is that where they drop?
Shard items are very rare and you can count yourself lucky if you drop 1 a day after clearing all arenas. I think Featherweight Shards have a slightly higher drop rate than other shard stuff but I'm not sure so take it with a grain of salt. Clearing GF merely increases the number of monsters and rounds you go through which naturally yields more drop items overall. And they're cheap nowadays because a lot of people don't IW their stuff and if they do they send their stuff to IW services, whose owners all have the Dark Descent perk decreasing their depletion rate. There's also the thing that many other users have already sets ready and IWed so there's no reason to play that mode any further. Oh and they also decreased in price because the update that will rework IW had been hinted for a while so some users just held off from that because it was gonna be lost anyways, but they probably have been waiting for quite some time already. So like with everything, they're somewhat rare and you can count yourself lucky if you get some of those naturally per day. QUOTE(sogeth @ Apr 18 2023, 20:16)  Does anyone have a clear understanding of the queing behavior when updating sell and buy orders in the market? Consider this scenario: - I place a sell order for 10 Happy Pills at 600 credits (and nobody else has any for sale at 600 right then).
- Noni places a sell order for 1 Happy Pill at 600 credits.
- I update my sell order with an additional Happy Pill at 600 credits.
Now there are 12 Happy Pills for sale at 600 credits. In what order are those Pills queued? That is, if someone buys 1 Happy Pills for 600 credits, is Noni's Happy Pill sold, or is mine? By updating my order, do I cede my first position in the queue to Noni? Similarly, what happens to my Happy Pill's queue position(s) if, instead of adding a pill in step 3, I reduce my sell order from 10 to 9? I could ask someone to test this with me (with a low volume, low value item), but I do not want to appear to be abusing or manipulating the market. The moment you modify a buy/sell order you relinquish your position in the queue and get sent all the way to the back within your price bracket. I presume the system considers all your clicks to the Update button as entirely new orders and since the market fills them based on the time at which they were placed you are the newest one and thus, the last. So in your scenario Noni will get to sell the Pill first over your 11 or 9 pills.
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Apr 19 2023, 08:50
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sogeth
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Apr 18 2023, 22:37) 
The moment you modify a buy/sell order you relinquish your position in the queue and get sent all the way to the back within your price bracket. I presume the system considers all your clicks to the Update button as entirely new orders and since the market fills them based on the time at which they were placed you are the newest one and thus, the last.
So in your scenario Noni will get to sell the Pill first over your 11 or 9 pills.
I suspected that was the queuing model. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I suppose it would be much more work to keep a queue of each submission, but it would level the playing field. The current system means that there is no good way to place sell orders as you get stock. In competition with someone with a large volume already in the queue at any given price. Combined with the new restrictions on price levels, that could seems to limit your ability to sell small quantities except at the very bottom of the price range, or over very long time periods. Wait till you have acumulated a significant volume, or just sell at the lowest prices. One of the features that I dearly miss from HVMarket was the ability to see (and buy directly from) an individual's stock. Sometimes I payed more to avoid buying from players who had a pricing strategy I did not want to support. I suppose there is always setting up a shop again, and to sell directly, for those players that still look there. This opens another question. Would it be considered unfair market manipulation to collaborate with other players, to keep a position in the queue, to have one player sell/buy a small immediate ammount on bahlf of another player, to keep a position in the queue for the first player? Would it be legitimate to ask Noni to buy 1 Binding of Slaughter on my behalf, at the current selling price, so that I can keep my larger, long term buy order in a favorable position at the head of the queue at a lower price? For that matter, would it be legitimate to pool stock between multiple players, so that one player could submit a larger volume of stock in one sell order on behalf of the whole group? Similar agreements could be made to place a large buy order on behalf of a group of cooperating players. I am not sure how practical any of that would be, given different needs and goals between players, but the question is more about the principles. This post has been edited by sogeth: Apr 19 2023, 08:55
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Apr 19 2023, 10:39
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trogon
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QUOTE(Acetominaphene @ Apr 19 2023, 08:27)  you are just lucky and haven't play as many round as the drop rate normalized. A lot of them are dropped from PFest where grinders do a lot of grinds. But phazons they almost only come from monster lab.
If you play more hentaiverse fightings you wont say that you drop a lot of legendary weapons. Mostly you will get magnificents and some legendaries, and most of them come from the battle clear bonus of DwD, PGC and SPL.
I never said I got a lot of phazons or legendary equips - only a few of each. But I've gotten more than zero, which is how many amnesia shards I've gotten. QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Apr 19 2023, 14:37)  Shard items are very rare and you can count yourself lucky if you drop 1 a day after clearing all arenas. I think Featherweight Shards have a slightly higher drop rate than other shard stuff but I'm not sure so take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, I've currently got 70 featherweight shards, and 23 voidseeker shards, but I've also used a bunch in the past, so who knows how many I've had total. I only have 5 Aether shards and have never used one, so they're obviously much more rare. And I've gotten zero Amnesia shards, so they are either the most rare or else I'm the most unlucky... EDIT: OK, What the heck is going on? I just switched to Hard difficulty on a whim to blow through a single arena, and an amnesia shard dropped. HUH? So the very first amnesia shard I ever got dropped on an easy difficulty level I never use, even though the wiki says they can't drop on anything below Hell? Is this why I never get them? Because the wiki is wrong and they only drop on easier difficulty levels? Hmmm... This post has been edited by trogon: Apr 19 2023, 12:02
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Apr 19 2023, 18:36
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sogeth
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QUOTE(trogon @ Apr 19 2023, 01:39)  EDIT: OK, What the heck is going on? I just switched to Hard difficulty on a whim to blow through a single arena, and an amnesia shard dropped. HUH? So the very first amnesia shard I ever got dropped on an easy difficulty level I never use, even though the wiki says they can't drop on anything below Hell? Is this why I never get them? Because the wiki is wrong and they only drop on easier difficulty levels? Hmmm...
I have not tracked on what difficulty I was playing for them, but since 23rd March, I have had 3 Amnesia Shards drop, and I play on PFUDOR almost always. The only exceptions being occasional Item World runs. The only IW I did between now and then was during the Easter event, and I ran a legendary shield up to IW10, and I did that all on PFUDOR excect the last two on IWBTH. I think you just had a low probability expereince around Amnesia shards. I had a low probability distribution on Attribute bonuses from PAs, for years. I suspected for a long time that the attribute bonuses were weighted towards your armor choice, or just away from Inteligence and Wisdom, because both those bonuses trailed all my physical stats by a consistent 20% percent.For years! But that eventually evened out, even before I got close to the level limits. There are enough random distributions in HV, that it would be fairly surprising if most people did not experience at least a few skewed distributions, somewhere.
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Apr 21 2023, 04:20
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ddwiki
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What is the best potency for off-hand weapon now? Butcher lv.4 and Fatality lv.5 ?
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Apr 21 2023, 04:59
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Katajanmarja
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QUOTE(sogeth @ Apr 19 2023, 09:50)  Combined with the new restrictions on price levels, that could seems to limit your ability to sell small quantities except at the very bottom of the price range, or over very long time periods. Wait till you have acumulated a significant volume, or just sell at the lowest prices.
Well, this is how I’ve viewed the Market ever since it was introduced within the game. I don’t even know how long those "very long periods" should be. There’s constantly some inflation going on, so chances are that if I don’t sell for the cheapest price right now I will never get even that many credits for my goods. I feel this is the case especially with scrolls and infusions. This post has been edited by Katajanmarja: Apr 21 2023, 05:00
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Apr 21 2023, 08:31
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Noni
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QUOTE(ddwiki @ Apr 21 2023, 04:20)  What is the best potency for off-hand weapon now? Butcher lv.4 and Fatality lv.5 ?
off hand weapon needs overpower5, then fatality is probably slightly better than butcher as 2nd, but I don't think you'd notice the difference. But for DW, you will notice the difference of overpower5 on both weapons.
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Apr 21 2023, 11:37
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ddwiki
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QUOTE(Noni @ Apr 21 2023, 14:31)  off hand weapon needs overpower5, then fatality is probably slightly better than butcher as 2nd, but I don't think you'd notice the difference. But for DW, you will notice the difference of overpower5 on both weapons.
overpower will make me proc offhand strike easier, and offhand strike's damage is calculated by player's adb,wll take almost half of main hand's damage . on the other hand, butcher just increase a small value because 1h weapon's adb is not too high and damage bonus is reduced by 20%. so, for offhand,overpower is better than butcher or fatality. right?
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Apr 25 2023, 04:14
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nomer123456
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So I have a question... My dumb mind goes "wow, I like mages" so I created 1 now it's 270 lvl elec/wind mage, the problem is I can't do higher then hell dif... Even on nintendo there is a chance that I got oneshoted. How do I respec or how to endure that? I read some faq posts and decide to soulfuze all my gear. Is it worth it or better go melee?
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Apr 25 2023, 04:46
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kamio11
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QUOTE(nomer123456 @ Apr 25 2023, 03:14)  So I have a question... My dumb mind goes "wow, I like mages" so I created 1 now it's 270 lvl elec/wind mage, the problem is I can't do higher then hell dif... Even on nintendo there is a chance that I got oneshoted. How do I respec or how to endure that? I read some faq posts and decide to soulfuze all my gear. Is it worth it or better go melee?
It's not impossible to manage it, but it will be slow. The usual recommendation is to start maging when you reach level 310 and can max faster imperil. You also say you're an "elec/wind mage", you shouldn't mix elements even if the status effects seem beneficial. It's never worth it. Pick a single element and focus on that. If you're being oneshot, make sure you have spirit shield and spark of life active. This post has been edited by kamio11: Apr 25 2023, 04:47
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Apr 25 2023, 05:02
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nomer123456
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Apr 25 2023, 05:46)  If you're being oneshot, make sure you have spirit shield and spark of life active.
I thought spirit shield will drain my spirit fastly and spark won't work. Ok, I'll try this. QUOTE(kamio11 @ Apr 25 2023, 05:46)  It's never worth it. Pick a single element and focus on that.
So what disadvantage I get by using 2 elems? Like more ability point drain? I kinda ok w/ it.
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Apr 25 2023, 08:21
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Noni
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QUOTE(nomer123456 @ Apr 25 2023, 05:02)  I thought spirit shield will drain my spirit fastly and spark won't work. Ok, I'll try this. So what disadvantage I get by using 2 elems? Like more ability point drain? I kinda ok w/ it.
Disadvantage of being a lot slower and therefore way more dangerous. It has to do with the damage calculation, you can do the math yourself or trust our experience & advice. Single element mage is always faster and better. Not only because of abilities. You complainabout lack of defence? Fix yout element.
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Apr 25 2023, 09:01
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Hinoka
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So if you want to be a mage you have to choose what type. There's Hemidall (Holy), Fenrir (Dark), Freyr (Wind), Mjolnir (Lightning), Surtr (Fire), and Niflheim (Cold). You want all your gear to be the same element beacuse it will increase your spell damage bonus for that element. The highest I'm able to get it 435.7% with one cotton proficiency piece. You'll probably need two cotton pieces for proficiency. A mage needs high proficiency, high magic base damge, and high spell damage bonus. Then for Phase gear you'll either want Radiant or Charged. You can mix the two as well. Having one or two Charged pieces will help with survability. Mystic is more affordable but less effective than Radiant or Charged. For wind and electric you'll want a willow staff of Destruction in your element. There is a really good staff in the lottery today. You should buy several tickets just in case. High pool lotteries are very hard to win thou. Then forge your gear as much as possible and keep doing it until you max out your forging. It might be easier to play one hand with force shield first to help build up your mage character. You can play on PUFDOR easily with that setup. It took me a while to build up my first fire mage set up 7 years ago. I hit lvl 300 something and transitioned from a shadowdancer dual wield to fire mage. The last step as a mage is to get 600 base proficiency. Its shameful but I'm still not at 600 yet due to some inactivity in previous years. Its going to be a steep climb and it will be very expensive for you. You should get a star to help. At least participate in the event held at the end of the year for free cookies. Cookies give hath everyday. Its tough to be successful in HV if you aren't getting passive income everyday. That passive income adds up year by year too. Well best of luck to you and you should also read Nezu's guide for maging its really well written and very detailed. Everything you can know about maging is on there. Cheers!
This post has been edited by Hinoka: Apr 25 2023, 09:05
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Apr 26 2023, 00:26
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chris303
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I've been saving hath to get Crystarium V perk and am close to the amount for it. Because of the changes related to precursor artifact rewards and the common practice of playing on hell in grindfest, I am unsure if it is worth it at this point. What I am asking is if it is better for me to invest in other perks that would make it easier for me to grind more efficiently.
These are my current hath perks:
Thinking Cap Innate Arcana V Crystarium IV Tokenizer I Dæmon Duality I
Also, when using infusions with physical weapons, is it mor efficient to use an infusion with the same elemental property (EX: Fire Strike-Infusion of flames) or the opposite element for status effects (EX: Fire Strike-Infusion of frost) ?
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