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post Mar 12 2018, 00:08
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:05) *

I thought for 1H people don't cast these because it's detrimental

Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?
I used Haste until level ~350
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:11
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:08) *

Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?

uhu. dead men tell no tales, or so they say. also, which spells do you usually cast?
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:12
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:08) *

Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?
I used Haste until level ~350

And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:20
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 15:08) *

Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?
I used Haste until level ~350

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 11 2018, 15:12) *

And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Definitely misinterpreted by me then. It was the takeaway I had from reading various previous comments over time and I didn't calibrate it for my level/lack of ability. Easy to conflate "not optimal" with "shouldn't use" sometimes.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 11 2018, 15:11) *

uhu. dead men tell no tales, or so they say. also, which spells do you usually cast?

For 1H I have SS/SoL/Protection on IA, and I pretty much just cast Regen/Heartseeker with occasional Absorb thrown in there. If I feel like I have extra mana I'll burn a imperil/gale/smite/corruption just to get that minor proficiency boost.
2H I have SS/SoL/Haste on IA, pretty much only use Health Draughts, manually cast protection/heartseeker on lower difficulties and add in Shadow Veil/Absorb for higher difficulties
Mage I load up everything since I struggle vs. all
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:20
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:05) *


I'm sitting on around 10M liquid and another 10M or so in miscellaneous trophies and other sellable items I'd say.


That's a lot of credits, you should build 1h+force shield+power armor first, with those credits you can build a very good one. If you still insist to build a mage then you sould be patient, 20 M is just a price of 1 or 2 gears. Last auction was 1 gear = 1 GS....

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:08) *

Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?
I used Haste until level ~350


I use haste till now..

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 12 2018, 05:12) *

And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Thank you for the advice, uncle... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:23
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20) *

Thank you for the advice, uncle... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

391 is allready endgame level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:37
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 12 2018, 01:05) *

I'm sitting on around 10M

have 10M and use Exquisite Staff.... hmmmm.... huh.

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post Mar 12 2018, 00:41
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Mar 11 2018, 23:37) *

have 10M and use Exquisite Staff.... hmmmm.... huh.

Didnt you find the right staff in auction yet?

Ha, too easy.

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post Mar 12 2018, 00:42
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 12 2018, 05:23) *

391 is allready endgame level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


But with 3M credits?? There's no way i can build a mage, even my armors are not upgraded.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 00:45
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Ehm, i did never suggest to someone to play as mage. So what are you refering to? I thought it was me telling you to stop using SV and Haste. But now i am confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 01:06
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:05) *
I thought for 1H people don't cast these because it's detrimental

Just leaving this here: I cast 3 imperils per round while playing 1H, and I use Haste once the Grindfest is starting to get really tough.

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post Mar 12 2018, 01:12
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 12 2018, 05:45) *

Ehm, i did never suggest to someone to play as mage. So what are you refering to? I thought it was me telling you to stop using SV and Haste. But now i am confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Hahaha...
I thought because uncle said end game level, then i should build a mage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) my bad...

But yes i stop use shadow veil but haste kinda help me a lot...

Why uncle don't play mage? I thought players will always play mage at uncle level, but please don't say because uncle is in minus balance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 12 2018, 01:19
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Thank you for the replies, Uncle Stu, Ikki Pop, Screamaz, Gianfrix94, igs88, and decondelite. It's at least given me a new baseline on some things to expect and updated some misconceptions I had.

I know some issues could be solved simply by buying better stuff with the equity I'm sitting on, but I'm one of those types that gets attached to equipment I personally found etc.
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 12 2018, 00:12) *

Why uncle don't play mage? I thought players will always play mage at uncle level, but please don't say because uncle is in minus balance... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yeah. They usualy do. But uncle is much but usual. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

You are welcome raven. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20) *

For 1H I have SS/SoL/Protection on IA, and I pretty much just cast Regen/Heartseeker with occasional Absorb thrown in there. If I feel like I have extra mana I'll burn a imperil/gale/smite/corruption just to get that minor proficiency boost.

don't mind them, they will raise on their own with dawn.
also, don't waste turns casting spells if not needed: you're a melee with low magic firepower, so you'll basically waste a turn in which mobs can rape you freely just to deal, uh... 50 dmg? 100? guess you got the picture. for how much of a waste it may be, letting mana overflow is the least of your concerns.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20) *

That's a lot of credits, you should build 1h+force shield+power armor first, with those credits you can build a very good one.

aye. judging by his sig, armors and shield may need an upgrade. ravenfrost, try to check decon's auctions

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20) *

If you still insist to build a mage then you sould be patient, 20 M is just a price of 1 or 2 gears. Last auction was 1 gear = 1 GS....

allow me: if you're so crazy to sink all those credits into one lone item rather than going with mid-tier-yet-still-very-good gears, you deserve to spend all of them.

let GS-tier items to endgame players, otherwise we'll also need to tell to newcomers how to assemble a decent yet cheap build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:42) *

But with 3M credits?? There's no way i can build a mage, even my armors are not upgraded.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

upgrades on armors are overestimated. my holy mage build costed less than 1M and i can clear all arenas with it. at Hard difficulty, but i still can.

also PF REs, tbh...

QUOTE(decondelite @ Mar 12 2018, 00:06) *

Just leaving this here: I cast 3 imperils per round while playing 1H, and I use Haste once the Grindfest is starting to get really tough.

you play with shortsword, though. but yep, imperil may be not so useless for 1Hers too
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post Mar 12 2018, 02:56
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I noticed Oak staffs don't have destruction suffix. Do Oak staffs have have any advantage to the Willow counterpart?
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post Mar 12 2018, 03:04
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ Mar 12 2018, 02:56) *

I noticed Oak staffs don't have destruction suffix. Do Oak staffs have have any advantage to the Willow counterpart?

Oak can have heimdal, willow cannot have fenrir. Also slightly higher prof (?).
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post Mar 12 2018, 03:08
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Mar 12 2018, 04:34) *

Oak can have heimdal, willow cannot have fenrir. Also slightly higher prof (?).

People say Destruction is better than matching element.
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post Mar 12 2018, 03:14
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ Mar 12 2018, 01:56) *

I noticed Oak staffs don't have destruction suffix. Do Oak staffs have have any advantage to the Willow counterpart?


Oak of Heimdall, which offers a massive Holy EDB boost.

Though they are stuck to that element, which is one of the reasons why fire and cold are inferior to the rest of options. Oak staves need some suffix changes but I doubt it is happening anytime soon.

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QUOTE(Paff444 @ Mar 12 2018, 03:08) *

People say Destruction is better than matching element.

People are absolutely correct. Destruction is better than pretty much anything else, and as far as i understand, the only reason for holy mages to use oak over kata is counter-resist. I have no clue why dark mages would ever use kata.
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