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After saving for ages, I finally bought the Daemon Duality perk and was pretty disappointed to see that it doesn't affect my stats whatsoever. Just wanting to confirm - is this normal? I was expecting my base attack and magic attack stats to get a 10% boost, but they remained the same. So is the 10% attack boost just something that works invisibly in the background? I honestly can't really tell the difference in battle, and since the stat numbers don't reflect any changes, it makes me wonder if the entire thing is glitched or something.

Yes, it's 'invisible' on the stat readout pages.

I went up a DD level on 02.09 and it was very clearly not active until 02.11. Don't expect it to click on immediately.

After lv 310, a lot of expert suggest to change to mage for faster speed of clearing the arena
But how fast it is? For a new changed mage, what damage is said to be okay? As I can only do a several thousand with the use of a primary spell in the nightmare difficulty...........
Or, how well should my equipment be in order to clear the arena faster?

my clear time as a 1H melee of DwD is ~25min(3200 turns)

as a wind mage, my clear time of DwD is ~8min (1300 turns)

I only used 1H melee for the first time of PGC which cost me more than 30mins(~4000 turns)

my wind mage's average PGC clear time is 9min 30s (~1500 turns)

hello Slaughter weapon and Nimble weapon which is better for 1H

This post has been edited by sddcsaas: Feb 16 2023, 06:13

hello Slaughter weapon and Nimble weapon which is better for 1H

For 1H, I suppose you should stick to rapier of slaughter whenever possible after lv200.

While I don't think I'm ready for PFUDOR, I can play in either IWBTH or Nintendo with relatively few hitches. My question is this though: Is there a higher chance of Legendary/Peerless drops on IWBTH than Nintendo, and if so, what are the percentages? I see in the Wiki that Legendary/Peerless drops become possible starting with Hell difficulty, but I don't see any data on whether the chance of getting such a drop is different for different difficulties.

So far, I've only ever gotten 3 Legendary drops, and all were on Nintendo level. I prefer leveling slowly, so unless IWBTH has a better chance of a decent drop (so far, I've come up empty), I'd just as soon stick to Nintendo for my random encounters. Is there any hard data out there about this (preferable a simple percentile number and not a convoluted mathematical formula)?

While I don't think I'm ready for PFUDOR, I can play in either IWBTH or Nintendo with relatively few hitches. My question is this though: Is there a higher chance of Legendary/Peerless drops on IWBTH than Nintendo, and if so, what are the percentages? I see in the Wiki that Legendary/Peerless drops become possible starting with Hell difficulty, but I don't see any data on whether the chance of getting such a drop is different for different difficulties.

So far, I've only ever gotten 3 Legendary drops, and all were on Nintendo level. I prefer leveling slowly, so unless IWBTH has a better chance of a decent drop (so far, I've come up empty), I'd just as soon stick to Nintendo for my random encounters. Is there any hard data out there about this (preferable a simple percentile number and not a convoluted mathematical formula)?

IWBTH has significantly better chance of legendary drops. Check the difference in quality roll bonus: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

IWBTH has significantly better chance of legendary drops. Check the difference in quality roll bonus: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level

I've seen that chart, but I don't fully understand it. "Quality roll bonus" is a "3?" for Nintendo and 5 for IWBTH. It's also a 2 for Hell, which cannot get Legendary or Peerless at all. So what does it mean, exactly? 3(?) times what, exactly? Five times what exactly? If it's 5 times the odds of getting Legendary, what are those odds? And for that matter, what quality is the quality roll even referring to? 5 times the odds of getting Legendary? Peerless? Magnificent? All of the above?

I'm fine with all of this just being a mystery, I was just curious if any of the experts around here know of any hard data explaining it all. I understand that it's probably difficult to point to a single statistic since everyone's chances are also influenced by whatever training they've had.

So far, I've spent equal time in Nintendo and IWBTH, so I guess I was just luckier playing on Nintendo (or unlucky in IWBTH). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

my clear time as a 1H melee of DwD is ~25min(3200 turns)

as a wind mage, my clear time of DwD is ~8min (1300 turns)

I only used 1H melee for the first time of PGC which cost me more than 30mins(~4000 turns)

my wind mage's average PGC clear time is 9min 30s (~1500 turns)

That is a good reference.........
Mage is so much quicker........
but when I am finding equipments, that is SO difficult to get my elemental prof to 580......I can hardly find low level equipments with suffix "elementalist"

Most of my drops are only exquisite, hard to find mag. or above

I've seen that chart, but I don't fully understand it. "Quality roll bonus" is a "3?" for Nintendo and 5 for IWBTH. It's also a 2 for Hell, which cannot get Legendary or Peerless at all. So what does it mean, exactly? 3(?) times what, exactly? Five times what exactly? If it's 5 times the odds of getting Legendary, what are those odds? And for that matter, what quality is the quality roll even referring to? 5 times the odds of getting Legendary? Peerless? Magnificent? All of the above?

I'm fine with all of this just being a mystery, I was just curious if any of the experts around here know of any hard data explaining it all. I understand that it's probably difficult to point to a single statistic since everyone's chances are also influenced by whatever training they've had.

So far, I've spent equal time in Nintendo and IWBTH, so I guess I was just luckier playing on Nintendo (or unlucky in IWBTH). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The 3 vs 5 is for getting a legendary, magnificent etc. There is a cut-off below which legendary doesn't drop. But fact is that if you play Nintendo and then switch to IWBTH, and you play a long time, in the end you'll see you get exactly 5/3 times more legendaries on IWBTH. Peerless I'm not sure, that may be a flat low percentage. And either way, that percentage is so low that you'll never reach the numbers to get any significance when comparing drop rates.

I don't think we have any detail research for equipment quality vs difficulty, sssss2 provide a summary for PFUDOR should be the only data we have so far.
As a conclusion, the good equipment random drop chance is very low, there is only 0.3% chance with full trainings in PFUDOR for Legendary, for Peerless it's less even than 0.001%, and for lower difficulty I think they could be simply ignored. If you're interested with the data, you can check sssss2's WTS.
For a normal player, the Legendaries are mostly from the arena clear bonus, and they're slightly better researched, but unfortunately we still have no detail data. But anyway, the clear bonus are also high affected by difficulty. The clear bonus work as a trophy roll but not a random drop roll, so even you play at normal difficutly you still have a very tiny chance to get Legendary or Peerless.
But to get a good chance, you're suppose to at least up above lv.300 and play DwD, the T7 trophy roll from DwD clear bonus give you 20% Legendary chance but it's locked to PFUDOR now, and the T6 trophy roll from EoD/ED/FSM clear bonus in IWBTH/PFUDOR give you 2% chance, and if you play them in lower difficulty they should give you a T5 roll which only 0.6% chance. The chance for lower arena and difficulty are almost ignorable.
You can check the trophy page to check the clear trophy tier here https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Trophies.
but there're also some "?" in the page since they're not full researched

This post has been edited by what_is_name: Feb 16 2023, 14:27

That's nice info. Is there any data on drop rates from random encounters? I thought those were supposed to have better drops than arenas? Or is that just regular arena rounds and not arena clear rounds?

Yes, RE have a significantly higher chance, in sssss2's data there is 1% chance for Legendary, far higher than normal random drop, but we still have the PFUDOR data only, and that's special boost but not clear bonus, the clear bonus for RE is Soul Fragment

hi all, newbe here would like some advice on my 2h char im at lvl 108 atm on nightmare dif and its been fun so fair. using mace and light armor but im not sure if my sats are good. is therer anything i should be on the look out for gear wise?

hi all, newbe here would like some advice on my 2h char im at lvl 108 atm on nightmare dif and its been fun so fair. using mace and light armor but im not sure if my sats are good. is therer anything i should be on the look out for gear wise?

2h will become much harder soon, as you level up further. Defense is just so poor, and the bonus in attack is pretty much non-existent. 1h heavy is just safer and faster. And Dual Wield is faster and safer as well - albeit not as safe as 1h heavy.

Looking at your stats: I'd put more points in wisdom. You need wisdom to get longer spell duration, for protection, haste, regen, etc....

For gear: keep on replacing your gear. And if you have some half decent low-level stuff: that can be sold on the forum.

Why has Isekai dimension not ended yet ? It makes Snom sad (Y=Y)

Why has Isekai dimension not ended yet ? It makes Snom sad (Y=Y)

Because Tenb was busy with other site updates, like the new search engine, which delayed HV.

thanks for the advice on 2h, i tried 1h before but it felt slow to me. i found some better gear and had a slot left so i gave it another shot, holy cow its faster than it used to be! I didn't like it at 1st because of its lack of AoE but its ST is insane! how do you use sprit stance do you just leave it on all the time? also, I know I should only be doing random encounters every 30mins but what about Item world? should I be doing that?

thanks for the advice on 2h, i tried 1h before but it felt slow to me. i found some better gear and had a slot left so i gave it another shot, holy cow its faster than it used to be! I didn't like it at 1st because of its lack of AoE but its ST is insane! how do you use sprit stance do you just leave it on all the time? also, I know I should only be doing random encounters every 30mins but what about Item world? should I be doing that?

1. Spirit on all the time is best. Unless you have OFC (21 different pony figurines), that you can use to blast through rounds quicker from time to time.
2. Random Encouters are the best way to get good drops. Play them on PFUDOR, should be possible. If needed use weaken. OFC really helps to clear Random Encounter on PFUDOR.
3. IW: yes, on your 1h weapon. Play it to IW10, don't mind the potencies for now. Just get that extra strike
4. To speed up further: use an infusion on the weapon, next to IW10
5. As soon as you see School Girl bosses, 1h will become a bit harder to play (later arenas). But still a good style, way better than 2h for those arenas.

The quality of the equipment is very ornamental. It would be better if there is an appropriate epic dagger

feel a little dumb to ask here, but what did this guy mean to say? Just show up in my wts and posted this, I know every word in that post, but failed to assemble a sentence that make some sense.

Is he talking some outdated weapon or some jargon I don't know? Or is there little logic in his expression from the very beginning?

Still congsiderring how to respond.