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Mar 11 2018, 23:46
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Uncle Stu
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Hm, yeah, well. Obi wan wants to tell you something about PFUDOR. 
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Mar 11 2018, 23:53
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ikki.
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 12 2018, 00:24)  I've determined that I'm terrible at this game. I'm having trouble clearing the early arenas on Normal difficulty with my firemage outfit
Ex-Fiery RW of Surtr 4x Phase of Surtr (Some mix of sup/ex and radiant/plain) 1x Mag Cotton of trash
how many credits do you have? just buy some Mag Phases in WTS, 300k-400k will be enough for full set and wait for blessing of level 310 aka imperil. or try to get unclaimed Legs on auction for starting bid (50k). This post has been edited by Ikki Pop: Mar 12 2018, 00:02
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Mar 12 2018, 00:03
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Scremaz
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 22:43)  Really? If I'm playing 1H on PFU or IWBTH I pretty much have all three draughts running 90% of the time. If in danger (5+ monsters is the tipping point roughly) I have to burn a spirit potion or elixir.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) well, apart for the fact that if you cannot play proficiently at a certain difficulty you should really try the previous step (no shame in this), could you please post the link of your gears for both sets?
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Mar 12 2018, 00:03
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lazyNPC
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 22:43)  Really? If I'm playing 1H on PFU or IWBTH I pretty much have all three draughts running 90% of the time. If in danger (5+ monsters is the tipping point roughly) I have to burn a spirit potion or elixir.
Haste? Shadow Veil? They can help if equips aren't quite there yet.
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Mar 12 2018, 00:05
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Deckard Cain
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 11 2018, 14:46)  Hm, yeah, well. Obi wan wants to tell you something about PFUDOR.
ah. Even at lower difficulties though I'd imagine I'd have less a risk of dying but still need to mana+spirit draught because of the constant drains from casting regen and being in spirit stance 100% of the time. QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Mar 11 2018, 14:53)  how many credits do you have? just buy some Mag Phases in WTS, 300k-400k will be enough for full set and wait for blessing of level 310 aka imperil.
I'm sitting on around 10M liquid and another 10M or so in miscellaneous trophies and other sellable items I'd say. After the great blackjack trophy pricing crash I'm debating just burning all the trophies at the shrine but I'm kind of stuck trying to figure out what type of build I want to do going forward. Currently I do 2H Mace-Shade as my main comfort but 1H here and there to mix it up and would like to have a Mage build that can melt through mobs at normal for days when I don't have much time to play. QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 15:03)  Haste? Shadow Veil? They can help if equips aren't quite there yet.
I thought for 1H people don't cast these because it's detrimental QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 11 2018, 15:03)  well, apart for the fact that if you cannot play proficiently at a certain difficulty you should really try the previous step (no shame in this), could you please post the link of your gears for both sets?
[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Leg Rapier Bal[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Exq Force Shield of Damp[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Exq Pow Helm Warding[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Exq Pow Armor Balance[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Mag Pow Gaunt Prot[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Exq Shielding Greaves Prot[ alt.hentaiverse.org] Sup Pow Boots ProtThis post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Mar 12 2018, 00:14
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Mar 12 2018, 00:08
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:05)  I thought for 1H people don't cast these because it's detrimental
Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying? I used Haste until level ~350
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Mar 12 2018, 00:11
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:08)  Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying?
uhu. dead men tell no tales, or so they say. also, which spells do you usually cast?
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Mar 12 2018, 00:12
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:08)  Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying? I used Haste until level ~350
And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Mar 12 2018, 00:20
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Deckard Cain
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 11 2018, 15:08)  Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying? I used Haste until level ~350
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 11 2018, 15:12)  And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Definitely misinterpreted by me then. It was the takeaway I had from reading various previous comments over time and I didn't calibrate it for my level/lack of ability. Easy to conflate "not optimal" with "shouldn't use" sometimes. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 11 2018, 15:11)  uhu. dead men tell no tales, or so they say. also, which spells do you usually cast?
For 1H I have SS/SoL/Protection on IA, and I pretty much just cast Regen/Heartseeker with occasional Absorb thrown in there. If I feel like I have extra mana I'll burn a imperil/gale/smite/corruption just to get that minor proficiency boost. 2H I have SS/SoL/Haste on IA, pretty much only use Health Draughts, manually cast protection/heartseeker on lower difficulties and add in Shadow Veil/Absorb for higher difficulties Mage I load up everything since I struggle vs. all
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Mar 12 2018, 00:20
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igs88
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:05) 
I'm sitting on around 10M liquid and another 10M or so in miscellaneous trophies and other sellable items I'd say.
That's a lot of credits, you should build 1h+force shield+power armor first, with those credits you can build a very good one. If you still insist to build a mage then you sould be patient, 20 M is just a price of 1 or 2 gears. Last auction was 1 gear = 1 GS.... QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:08)  Who cares about detrimental when without it you are dying? I used Haste until level ~350
I use haste till now.. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 12 2018, 05:12)  And for that level i would even say it is recommended to use them. Switching off SV and Haste is more like an endgame optimization, as an advice for beginners. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Thank you for the advice, uncle... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Mar 12 2018, 00:37
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ikki.
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 12 2018, 01:05)  I'm sitting on around 10M
have 10M and use Exquisite Staff.... hmmmm.... huh. This post has been edited by Ikki Pop: Mar 12 2018, 00:44
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Mar 12 2018, 00:41
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Mar 11 2018, 23:37)  have 10M and use Exquisite Staff.... hmmmm.... huh.
Didnt you find the right staff in auction yet? Ha, too easy. Hentai Verse 200.
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Mar 12 2018, 00:45
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Uncle Stu
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Ehm, i did never suggest to someone to play as mage. So what are you refering to? I thought it was me telling you to stop using SV and Haste. But now i am confused. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Mar 12 2018, 01:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:05)  I thought for 1H people don't cast these because it's detrimental Just leaving this here: I cast 3 imperils per round while playing 1H, and I use Haste once the Grindfest is starting to get really tough. This post has been edited by decondelite: Mar 12 2018, 01:06
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Mar 12 2018, 01:12
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igs88
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 12 2018, 05:45)  Ehm, i did never suggest to someone to play as mage. So what are you refering to? I thought it was me telling you to stop using SV and Haste. But now i am confused. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Hahaha... I thought because uncle said end game level, then i should build a mage... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) my bad... But yes i stop use shadow veil but haste kinda help me a lot... Why uncle don't play mage? I thought players will always play mage at uncle level, but please don't say because uncle is in minus balance... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 12 2018, 01:19
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Deckard Cain
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Thank you for the replies, Uncle Stu, Ikki Pop, Screamaz, Gianfrix94, igs88, and decondelite. It's at least given me a new baseline on some things to expect and updated some misconceptions I had.
I know some issues could be solved simply by buying better stuff with the equity I'm sitting on, but I'm one of those types that gets attached to equipment I personally found etc.
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Mar 12 2018, 01:20
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Scremaz
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20)  For 1H I have SS/SoL/Protection on IA, and I pretty much just cast Regen/Heartseeker with occasional Absorb thrown in there. If I feel like I have extra mana I'll burn a imperil/gale/smite/corruption just to get that minor proficiency boost.
don't mind them, they will raise on their own with dawn. also, don't waste turns casting spells if not needed: you're a melee with low magic firepower, so you'll basically waste a turn in which mobs can rape you freely just to deal, uh... 50 dmg? 100? guess you got the picture. for how much of a waste it may be, letting mana overflow is the least of your concerns. QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20)  That's a lot of credits, you should build 1h+force shield+power armor first, with those credits you can build a very good one.
aye. judging by his sig, armors and shield may need an upgrade. ravenfrost, try to check decon's auctions QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:20)  If you still insist to build a mage then you sould be patient, 20 M is just a price of 1 or 2 gears. Last auction was 1 gear = 1 GS....
allow me: if you're so crazy to sink all those credits into one lone item rather than going with mid-tier-yet-still-very-good gears, you deserve to spend all of them. let GS-tier items to endgame players, otherwise we'll also need to tell to newcomers how to assemble a decent yet cheap build (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 11 2018, 23:42)  But with 3M credits?? There's no way i can build a mage, even my armors are not upgraded.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) upgrades on armors are overestimated. my holy mage build costed less than 1M and i can clear all arenas with it. at Hard difficulty, but i still can. also PF REs, tbh... QUOTE(decondelite @ Mar 12 2018, 00:06)  Just leaving this here: I cast 3 imperils per round while playing 1H, and I use Haste once the Grindfest is starting to get really tough.
you play with shortsword, though. but yep, imperil may be not so useless for 1Hers too
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