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post Jan 2 2023, 06:45
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Jan 2 2023, 13:29) *

you can soulfuse equipment higher than you level, but not more than lv 100
that is, if you are at lv298, you can soulfuse equipment at lv398
the stat will then grow with your level

It is better to soulfuse equipment with at least magnificent or above as the soul fragment are very valuable


Right, I'm aware that I can soulfuse stuff above my level, but my question is - is doing so detrimental to the stats in any way?

If I'm level 300 and soulfuse a piece of equipment that's level 400, will the equipment's stats decrease upon soulfusing to match my level, and then increase as my character levels up so that, once I'm level 400, the equipment's stats are back to where they were before I soulfused it?

Or, if the stats DON'T decrease when I soulfuse it, will the stats just remain stagnant until I hit level 400, or will they increase with every level past 300?

Because if the stats don't decrease upon soulfusing AND they increase at every level thereafter, then wouldn't it always be best to soulfuse stuff that's 100 levels above you? That way, if I soulfuse a lv400 item when I was lv300, I'd get an item with lv400 stats, and by the time my character reached level 400, the item would have had 100 levels worth of stat increases, making it much more powerful than if I'd waited until I was level 400 to equip it.

Dunno if I'm being clear or if my explanation is confusing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) As you say, soul fragments are valuable, so I don't want to waste them experimenting to find out.
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post Jan 2 2023, 06:45
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Thanks. Yeah, I have to rely heavily on 2H skills to soften up groups of enemies, which is why playing arenas is actually easier than random battles at higher levels. When playing arenas, they start off with fewer enemies, giving me a chance to build up overcharge to use my skills. But if I get a random encounter with a full compliment of enemies, it's hard to survive long enough to build the overcharge needed to use skills. I can scrape by on IWBTH, but a random encounter with the max number of enemies on PFUDOR is too much for me to survive (with my current stats/equipment, anyway).

A NEW QUESTION: Can anyone tell me what happens if I soulfuse equipment that's above my level? Do the equipment's stats decrease? Do they not ever increase until I reach the same level the item was originally?

The stats will decrease so that they are scaled to your current level, and gradually increase as you level up. Level Scaling

Do you have any of the innate arcana hath perks? When I started trying Pfudor REs, and before I had innate arcana, I used a scroll of protection, and possibly swiftness, when I had at least eight monsters. Edit: just saw in your previous post you have IA3.

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post Jan 2 2023, 08:34
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The stats will decrease so that they are scaled to your current level, and gradually increase as you level up. Level Scaling

Do you have any of the innate arcana hath perks? When I started trying Pfudor REs, and before I had innate arcana, I used a scroll of protection, and possibly swiftness, when I had at least eight monsters. Edit: just saw in your previous post you have IA3.


The info in that link is too confusing for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) So am I to understand that there would be no disadvantages to soulfusing something early? (And thus no advantages to waiting until I was the same level as the equipment?) Is there a script that can show what stats something will be if I soulfuse it early? Or do I just roll the dice and hope the stats don't decrease too much?

I've bumped myself up to IWBTH for random battles, not that it's helped with equip drops yet. Haven't even gotten so much as a magnificent drop from it. I've got IA3 and VV, but my equipment is really holding me back. 3 mags, 2 exquisites (including my weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)) and a superior (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) . My crap luck with drops makes me think I need to look elsewhere, but most stuff that's better than what I've got is above my level, which is why I'm considering soulfusing something good and just hanging on to it for a while.
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post Jan 2 2023, 09:21
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QUOTE(trogon @ Jan 2 2023, 07:34) *

The info in that link is too confusing for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) So am I to understand that there would be no disadvantages to soulfusing something early? (And thus no advantages to waiting until I was the same level as the equipment?) Is there a script that can show what stats something will be if I soulfuse it early? Or do I just roll the dice and hope the stats don't decrease too much?

I've bumped myself up to IWBTH for random battles, not that it's helped with equip drops yet. Haven't even gotten so much as a magnificent drop from it. I've got IA3 and VV, but my equipment is really holding me back. 3 mags, 2 exquisites (including my weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)) and a superior (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) . My crap luck with drops makes me think I need to look elsewhere, but most stuff that's better than what I've got is above my level, which is why I'm considering soulfusing something good and just hanging on to it for a while.

no disadvantage for soulfuse. Except that the equip becomes untradable. No other disadvantage. The script that can show the stats with level scaling is Live Percental Ranges. And you can safely do the 'roll the dice" thing, as there is no way to get those higher stats at lower level. All equip will have lower stats at lower level. If you use Live Percental Ranges, it will show how good the stats are within the possible rage of the stat. So if it's 90%, it will be 90% of the best possible, at any level and always. That's why most of us use percental ranges.
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post Jan 3 2023, 03:19
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As a 1h melee fighter, are there any times I need to use infusions? I don't really use my offensive spells and just use the defensive boosts.

Is it better to just sell them off in the auctions?
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post Jan 3 2023, 03:34
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If you apply them to your sword, they'll give you an extra strike, so long as the weapon doesn't already have that strike on it. You can have at max 3, 2 of which you usually get from an iw10 prefixed weapon, infusion giving the 3rd.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Infusions
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post Jan 3 2023, 09:26
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newbie question:
are there any bonus to use the title "Dovahkiin" ?
I saw the link states +10% Physical Damage +3% Evade
but this states only the skill.....
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post Jan 3 2023, 09:33
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QUOTE(billgates2114 @ Jan 3 2023, 08:26) *

newbie question:
are there any bonus to use the title "Dovahkiin" ?
I saw the link states +10% Physical Damage +3% Evade
but this states only the skill.....

The English wiki is correct. Problem is that there are fewer people who maintain the chinese wiki, I guess.... Chinese wiki is outdated.

I added 页面需要更新 to the wiki page - but I'm not sure if that's correct Chinese. Hopefully someone will update the page soon.

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post Jan 3 2023, 12:14
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 3 2023, 15:33) *

The English wiki is correct. Problem is that there are fewer people who maintain the chinese wiki, I guess.... Chinese wiki is outdated.

I added 页面需要更新 to the wiki page - but I'm not sure if that's correct Chinese. Hopefully someone will update the page soon.


Thanks!
And that page is renewed
I wonder how to submit the request for that
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post Jan 3 2023, 19:24
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Thanks!
And that page is renewed
I wonder how to submit the request for that

post that request here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=47834

But what happened today: you posted the links and pointed out the error. So I asked on Discord if someone could fix it in Chinese. And Dongmian fixed it. Then Shank corrected the page redirect.
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post Jan 3 2023, 22:56
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Do we have any update yet on what's happening with the new equipment upgrades? Specifically I'm sitting on a few peerless pieces, and am unsure if I should sell them if legendaries can be upgraded into peerless, since we don't yet know (I think) if the peerless equipment can be upgraded further? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've seen people post things I haven't seen from the release notes before so wondered if anyone had any info? Just wondering if it's worth holding onto my peerless pieces or if they'll become useless soon, really.
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post Jan 3 2023, 23:06
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QUOTE(Melovfemale @ Jan 3 2023, 21:56) *

Do we have any update yet on what's happening with the new equipment upgrades? Specifically I'm sitting on a few peerless pieces, and am unsure if I should sell them if legendaries can be upgraded into peerless, since we don't yet know (I think) if the peerless equipment can be upgraded further? Sorry if this is a stupid question but I've seen people post things I haven't seen from the release notes before so wondered if anyone had any info? Just wondering if it's worth holding onto my peerless pieces or if they'll become useless soon, really.


I don't believe there has been any official update yet on what is coming yet. Probably we'll hear more when truck-kun update 91 hits isekai around 2023-02-01 (based on the current season schedule).
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post Jan 4 2023, 19:26
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Hi guys,

A few dumb questions... I've played casually for a quite a while, but haven't been keeping up with the updates :/

1. Low level arenas: how do I replay low level arenas (< killzone)? The arena used to have a page 1 and a page 2... now it's just 1 page starting at killzone. Am I too high level (444) to play the early game arenas?

2. Shrining trophies: how to upgrade vs shrine at current tier?
Eg. I have 3 manbearpig tails (tier 2), but at the shrine it says I require 32 to trade in for equipment (Ie, tier 5) how do I trade these in for garbage just so I can clear my inventory? Without access to early game arenas, I see no way of getting rid of these trophies besides selling them.

3. Shrining artifacts: I understand my oldest artifacts have been retired, and I'd never shrine them (they're a record of my play time, kinda), but I'm curious... if I were to shrine them, are these old artifacts now just precursors with a fancy name, or do they still give legendary gear like they used to?
Ie. Fibre-optic xmas tree, decorative pony sled, mayan desk calendar, hearth warming lantern, fibre-optic tree of harmony, crystal snowman, annoying dog, iridium sprinkler and robo rabbit head?

4. Isekai: this is an entirely new game-mode to me. Reading the wiki, it appears to be a 6-month HV competition from level 0, running solstice to solstice. The only persistent-game benefit I can see is a slim chance at a soulbound peerless equip (which, lets face it, is useless unless it has a very lucky roll on the prefix/suffix combo)... Is there any value is a casual late-game player like myself bothering with isekai?
NB. My internet is shit, even with mobsterbation I still get only 0.5 - 0.7 tps; not a speed for competitive play. Pfudor, rapier, imperil the schoolgirls, 80 mins for 95 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

5. Beyond reading the wiki, are there any other quick-tips you guys can give me? Did 1h or 2h ultimately win the popularity contest (rapier, shield + armor of protection vs estoc + armor of slaughter)? Is the best staff still oak hallowed of heimdall? Any general EH/HV gossip I've missed out on?

Thanks team,
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post Jan 4 2023, 20:35
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QUOTE(WeebLife @ Jan 4 2023, 19:26) *

Hi guys,

A few dumb questions... I've played casually for a quite a while, but haven't been keeping up with the updates :/

1. Low level arenas: how do I replay low level arenas (< killzone)? The arena used to have a page 1 and a page 2... now it's just 1 page starting at killzone. Am I too high level (444) to play the early game arenas?

2. Shrining trophies: how to upgrade vs shrine at current tier?
Eg. I have 3 manbearpig tails (tier 2), but at the shrine it says I require 32 to trade in for equipment (Ie, tier 5) how do I trade these in for garbage just so I can clear my inventory? Without access to early game arenas, I see no way of getting rid of these trophies besides selling them.

3. Shrining artifacts: I understand my oldest artifacts have been retired, and I'd never shrine them (they're a record of my play time, kinda), but I'm curious... if I were to shrine them, are these old artifacts now just precursors with a fancy name, or do they still give legendary gear like they used to?
Ie. Fibre-optic xmas tree, decorative pony sled, mayan desk calendar, hearth warming lantern, fibre-optic tree of harmony, crystal snowman, annoying dog, iridium sprinkler and robo rabbit head?

4. Isekai: this is an entirely new game-mode to me. Reading the wiki, it appears to be a 6-month HV competition from level 0, running solstice to solstice. The only persistent-game benefit I can see is a slim chance at a soulbound peerless equip (which, lets face it, is useless unless it has a very lucky roll on the prefix/suffix combo)... Is there any value is a casual late-game player like myself bothering with isekai?
NB. My internet is shit, even with mobsterbation I still get only 0.5 - 0.7 tps; not a speed for competitive play. Pfudor, rapier, imperil the schoolgirls, 80 mins for 95 rounds :(

5. Beyond reading the wiki, are there any other quick-tips you guys can give me? Did 1h or 2h ultimately win the popularity contest (rapier, shield + armor of protection vs estoc + armor of slaughter)? Is the best staff still oak hallowed of heimdall? Any general EH/HV gossip I've missed out on?

Thanks team,
Weeb.


I am not an expert so I cannot give you a definite answer on the open-ended questions like 4 and 5, but perhaps I can answer the rest of them.

1. Yes. You can only enter the last 14 arena challenges you unlocked.

2. You can change this behavior in the settings. Choose "Do not upgrade" under "Shrine Trophy Upgrades".

3. According to the wiki, there are no difference.
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post Jan 4 2023, 21:50
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QUOTE(WeebLife @ Jan 4 2023, 18:26) *

Hi guys,

A few dumb questions... I've played casually for a quite a while, but haven't been keeping up with the updates :/

1. Low level arenas: how do I replay low level arenas (< killzone)? The arena used to have a page 1 and a page 2... now it's just 1 page starting at killzone. Am I too high level (444) to play the early game arenas?

2. Shrining trophies: how to upgrade vs shrine at current tier?
Eg. I have 3 manbearpig tails (tier 2), but at the shrine it says I require 32 to trade in for equipment (Ie, tier 5) how do I trade these in for garbage just so I can clear my inventory? Without access to early game arenas, I see no way of getting rid of these trophies besides selling them.

3. Shrining artifacts: I understand my oldest artifacts have been retired, and I'd never shrine them (they're a record of my play time, kinda), but I'm curious... if I were to shrine them, are these old artifacts now just precursors with a fancy name, or do they still give legendary gear like they used to?
Ie. Fibre-optic xmas tree, decorative pony sled, mayan desk calendar, hearth warming lantern, fibre-optic tree of harmony, crystal snowman, annoying dog, iridium sprinkler and robo rabbit head?

4. Isekai: this is an entirely new game-mode to me. Reading the wiki, it appears to be a 6-month HV competition from level 0, running solstice to solstice. The only persistent-game benefit I can see is a slim chance at a soulbound peerless equip (which, lets face it, is useless unless it has a very lucky roll on the prefix/suffix combo)... Is there any value is a casual late-game player like myself bothering with isekai?
NB. My internet is shit, even with mobsterbation I still get only 0.5 - 0.7 tps; not a speed for competitive play. Pfudor, rapier, imperil the schoolgirls, 80 mins for 95 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

5. Beyond reading the wiki, are there any other quick-tips you guys can give me? Did 1h or 2h ultimately win the popularity contest (rapier, shield + armor of protection vs estoc + armor of slaughter)? Is the best staff still oak hallowed of heimdall? Any general EH/HV gossip I've missed out on?

Thanks team,
Weeb.


Let me try to answer some of these...

1. Low-level arenas become inaccessible as you level up / complete higher-level arenas. You cannot replay them.

2. You can choose this in your settings. Also, as you play, you will get enough tier 2 trophies to shrine in a large pack.

3. These are all standard Precursor Artifacts now. That said, if you check WTB or the Market, some people are willing to pay a large amount for obsolete artifacts or trophies. (Disclosure: I am one of the people looking for select obsoletes.)

4. There are a few benefits to Isekai: 1. Any soulbound equip gets transferred back to Persistent after the end of the season. 2. Peerless equipment is transferred back (even if not souldbound, though it will be soulbound in Persistent). 3. Credit balance above 1m (including from selling all your remaining equips and items) is transferred back. 4. Any peerless vouchers or equipment cores you have are transferred back. 5. Permanent primary attribute bonuses depending on which level you reach in the Tower. 6. Damage bonuses depending on what level of the Tower you reach (lasting until the end of the next Isekai season). 7. Anyone who reaches Floor 100 of the Tower gets a peerless voucher.

In general I think the main purpose of Isekai is to beta-test things before they make it to Persistent, and to give players a chance to start completely fresh, which is apparently fun for some of the masochists here. Also, if you grind a lot, it can be worth doing things in Isekai rather than Persistent (to get more equips/creds/etc.).

5. I can't speak to the details of melee styles. I'd say that once you get to a high level / income, mage is just strictly superior in every respect (excepting personal preferences for playstyle). For holy mages, a Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall is the best staff, but actually building a good holy mage setup is quite hard (equips are rare and very expensive, you probably need to spend 200-500m minimum, before forging, plus you need really high prof). Elemental mages, especially fire and cold, are very competitive, especially for the cost. Nezu's mage equip and stats guide is worth reading on this.
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post Jan 8 2023, 10:00
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QUOTE(WeebLife @ Jan 4 2023, 12:26) *

Hi guys,

A few dumb questions... I've played casually for a quite a while, but haven't been keeping up with the updates :/

1. Low level arenas: how do I replay low level arenas (< killzone)? The arena used to have a page 1 and a page 2... now it's just 1 page starting at killzone. Am I too high level (444) to play the early game arenas?

2. Shrining trophies: how to upgrade vs shrine at current tier?
Eg. I have 3 manbearpig tails (tier 2), but at the shrine it says I require 32 to trade in for equipment (Ie, tier 5) how do I trade these in for garbage just so I can clear my inventory? Without access to early game arenas, I see no way of getting rid of these trophies besides selling them.

3. Shrining artifacts: I understand my oldest artifacts have been retired, and I'd never shrine them (they're a record of my play time, kinda), but I'm curious... if I were to shrine them, are these old artifacts now just precursors with a fancy name, or do they still give legendary gear like they used to?
Ie. Fibre-optic xmas tree, decorative pony sled, mayan desk calendar, hearth warming lantern, fibre-optic tree of harmony, crystal snowman, annoying dog, iridium sprinkler and robo rabbit head?

4. Isekai: this is an entirely new game-mode to me. Reading the wiki, it appears to be a 6-month HV competition from level 0, running solstice to solstice. The only persistent-game benefit I can see is a slim chance at a soulbound peerless equip (which, lets face it, is useless unless it has a very lucky roll on the prefix/suffix combo)... Is there any value is a casual late-game player like myself bothering with isekai?
NB. My internet is shit, even with mobsterbation I still get only 0.5 - 0.7 tps; not a speed for competitive play. Pfudor, rapier, imperil the schoolgirls, 80 mins for 95 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

5. Beyond reading the wiki, are there any other quick-tips you guys can give me? Did 1h or 2h ultimately win the popularity contest (rapier, shield + armor of protection vs estoc + armor of slaughter)? Is the best staff still oak hallowed of heimdall? Any general EH/HV gossip I've missed out on?

Thanks team,
Weeb.


The most recommended melee setup these days is 1h shortsword/rapier + force shield + power armor of slaughter. But as kamio11 said, these days people mostly treat melee as a stopgap until they can survive as mage.
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post Jan 8 2023, 15:56
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How should i distribute my primary attributes as 1h melee?
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post Jan 8 2023, 16:07
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How should i distribute my primary attributes as 1h melee?
Currently i do
Str, End, Dex - level 420
Agi, Int, Wis - level 360

I personally use this as 1H Melee:
Keep STR, END, DEX, AGI equal, and as high as possible, while also keeping WIS as STR - 100 (STR - 150 is also acceptable), and the rest goes into INT.
INT is still very important even for Melee, otherwise you won't have enough SP. WIS helps keep your Magic Accuracy and MP (You still need Cure, and sometimes cast Imperil against bosses)

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I personally use this as 1H Melee:
Keep STR, END, DEX, AGI equal, and as high as possible, while also keeping WIS as STR - 100 (STR - 150 is also acceptable), and the rest goes into INT.
INT is still very important even for Melee, otherwise you won't have enough SP. WIS helps keep your Magic Accuracy and MP (You still need Cure, and sometimes cast Imperil against bosses)

My current playstyle is spamming imperil on every monster that isnt <50k health so i should keep my WIS high
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QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Jan 8 2023, 15:07) *

I personally use this as 1H Melee:
Keep STR, END, DEX, AGI equal, and as high as possible, while also keeping WIS as STR - 100 (STR - 150 is also acceptable), and the rest goes into INT.
INT is still very important even for Melee, otherwise you won't have enough SP. WIS helps keep your Magic Accuracy and MP (You still need Cure, and sometimes cast Imperil against bosses)



This is far from the optimal distribution of points, mind you.

If it wors for you and you're glad with it, it's up to you. But you should be careful of giving possibly misleading indication in the Experts' thread.

Newbies, beware !
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