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Nov 13 2022, 09:00
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Noni
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 12 2022, 23:59)  what is the ideal stat distribution for one hand? I'm at level 318 right now so I have: Strength 364 Dexterity 364 Agility 364 Endurance 364 Intelligence 0 Wisdom 318
should I remove points from Agility and leave it at 318 too? that would raise Strength, Dexterity and Endurance to 371
yes that would be better, I think. Agi shouldn't be higher than WIS, imho. Personally, I like to keep improving Wis, up to 340 when the good stats are at 400.
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Nov 13 2022, 15:47
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Thiaguinho-sama
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 13 2022, 04:00)  yes that would be better, I think. Agi shouldn't be higher than WIS, imho. Personally, I like to keep improving Wis, up to 340 when the good stats are at 400.
well, I had a look on them 365 Agility, 318 Agility and even 0 Agility to see how much it changes 0 Agility at best gives me 2 points in the stats that are high so I put it all in Wisdom doesn't seem to be worth what change between them: attack base damage 5082 / 5096 / 5098 physical hit chance 149.5% / 149.8% / 149.8% attack speed bonus 1% / 0.6% / 0% SP 814 / 806 / 708 physical mitigation 71.4% / 71.2% / 68% magical mitigation 60.9% / 61.1% / 61.3% resist chance 12.8% / 12.8% / 13.3% as expected 0 Agility not worth, loses too much physical mitigation and SP between 365 Agility / 318 Wisdom vs 318 Agility / 365 Wisdom the change is so small that I'm not sure it's worth either lol attack speed bonus 1% / 0.6% magic hit chance 92.8% / 94.7% MP 1168 / 1251 physical mitigation 71.4% / 71% I mostly get magic hit chance and MP if magic hit chance is at 100% does it mean i'll never miss? on improving Wisdom, I'm leaving it at my level, so basically raising 1 point every time I level up is there a limit of Agility that I shouldn't go over as one hand? anyway, still not sure if I should change anything lol This post has been edited by Thiaguinho-sama: Nov 13 2022, 15:59
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Nov 13 2022, 17:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 13 2022, 14:47)  well, I had a look on them 365 Agility, 318 Agility and even 0 Agility to see how much it changes 0 Agility at best gives me 2 points in the stats that are high so I put it all in Wisdom doesn't seem to be worth
what change between them: attack base damage 5082 / 5096 / 5098
physical hit chance 149.5% / 149.8% / 149.8%
attack speed bonus 1% / 0.6% / 0%
SP 814 / 806 / 708
physical mitigation 71.4% / 71.2% / 68%
magical mitigation 60.9% / 61.1% / 61.3%
resist chance 12.8% / 12.8% / 13.3%
as expected 0 Agility not worth, loses too much physical mitigation and SP
between 365 Agility / 318 Wisdom vs 318 Agility / 365 Wisdom the change is so small that I'm not sure it's worth either lol
attack speed bonus 1% / 0.6%
magic hit chance 92.8% / 94.7%
MP 1168 / 1251
physical mitigation 71.4% / 71%
I mostly get magic hit chance and MP if magic hit chance is at 100% does it mean i'll never miss?
on improving Wisdom, I'm leaving it at my level, so basically raising 1 point every time I level up
is there a limit of Agility that I shouldn't go over as one hand?
anyway, still not sure if I should change anything lol
No further advice on stats from me, you're doing fine. looks like you figured it out by yourself. Nice going, keep it up!
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Nov 13 2022, 18:20
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Thiaguinho-sama
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 13 2022, 12:48)  No further advice on stats from me, you're doing fine. looks like you figured it out by yourself. Nice going, keep it up!
only thing I figured out is that i didn't figure out anything lol just going with my daily grind and hoping I get at least a level a day cries
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Nov 13 2022, 21:23
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killi890
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 13 2022, 17:20)  only thing I figured out is that i didn't figure out anything lol just going with my daily grind and hoping I get at least a level a day cries
Truth be told, in the 300s, stats get less and less impactful. Strength in general scales badly no matter what, and becomes less and less interesting. (Early this stat is really good though) Agility is also pretty pointless. Wisdom is good until you get 500 (100% base magic accuracy so you don't actually just miss you spell anymore, though it can still get dodged/resisted). Endurance is the best stat to get tanky, so that's nice. Dex is the best stat for 1h users, as it has the only exponentially scaling component of all the stats: Parry chance. Every 25 dex is 1% parry added to base, and obviously going from 0% parry to 1% is something very different than going from 99% to 100%. (not like you can. Max dex can't be that high) Regardless: My stat spread is still Str=Dex=End > Wis > Agi >>> Int. But with equip upgrades I did value dex more than other things. For the best endgame stats you should probably do Dex = End > Str = Wis > Agi. But it really doesn't matter that much.
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Nov 13 2022, 21:36
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Thiaguinho-sama
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Nov 13 2022, 16:23)  Truth be told, in the 300s, stats get less and less impactful. Strength in general scales badly no matter what, and becomes less and less interesting. (Early this stat is really good though) Agility is also pretty pointless. Wisdom is good until you get 500 (100% base magic accuracy so you don't actually just miss you spell anymore, though it can still get dodged/resisted). Endurance is the best stat to get tanky, so that's nice. Dex is the best stat for 1h users, as it has the only exponentially scaling component of all the stats: Parry chance. Every 25 dex is 1% parry added to base, and obviously going from 0% parry to 1% is something very different than going from 99% to 100%. (not like you can. Max dex can't be that high)
Regardless: My stat spread is still Str=Dex=End > Wis > Agi >>> Int. But with equip upgrades I did value dex more than other things. For the best endgame stats you should probably do Dex = End > Str = Wis > Agi. But it really doesn't matter that much.
hum, I see, thanks guess I'll take points from Agility for Wisdom then
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Nov 14 2022, 03:36
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Lady_Slayer
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 12 2022, 16:59)  what is the ideal stat distribution for one hand? I'm at level 318 right now so I have: Strength 364 Dexterity 364 Agility 364 Endurance 364 Intelligence 0 Wisdom 318
should I remove points from Agility and leave it at 318 too? that would raise Strength, Dexterity and Endurance to 371
Ideal is called "peerless" where all stats are 100% percentle of legendary range with 0% percentle of burden. go get the live percentle range script from superlatanium, you can see them in game.
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Nov 14 2022, 15:49
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Thiaguinho-sama
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Nov 13 2022, 22:36)  Ideal is called "peerless" where all stats are 100% percentle of legendary range with 0% percentle of burden. go get the live percentle range script from superlatanium, you can see them in game.
I'm too poor to buy Peerless stuff lol
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Nov 14 2022, 20:05
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Melovfemale
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I'm wondering if I should get the supportive proficiency hath perk. I can do all arenas/grinfest on PF without dying (for the most part). If I were to get it, I assume it'd be for a comfort/minor efficiency thing, like maybe I'd use less potions (mana or health)? It seems like a longshot, but does anyone have an idea on roughly how 'worth it' the perk would be if I'm already clearing everything I need without dying? For instance, is it likely to pay itself off in six months of daily play, or is it strictly just nice to have and would only pay itself off in 10s of years? Should I expect things to speed up at all, and if so are we talking like 10s for a grindfest, or more like a few minutes?
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Nov 14 2022, 20:17
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mathl33t
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I remember not being impressed when I bought the support prof hath perk. My impression was that forging was more helpful, though I was rather low-forged at the time.
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Nov 15 2022, 04:03
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Look A Moth
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What is the base droprate of tokens? Wiki doesn't say. Thinking of getting tokenizer perk, but I wanna know how much of an actual boost "Doubles the chance of random mob token drops." actually is, cause if it's something like raising it from 2.5 to 5.0 I'd rather keep my hath.
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Nov 15 2022, 04:22
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what_is_name
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somewhat more like 0.1% to 0.2%,it actually not simply work like that in arena, but anyway not much improve if you don't play GF
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Nov 15 2022, 07:45
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Look A Moth
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Well that sucks, thanks for the info.
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Nov 15 2022, 14:42
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Noni
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QUOTE(sillyfish @ Nov 15 2022, 10:12)  https://hentaiverse.org/equip/285013657/f6db85508cPlease help me to check if this is a good weapon or not. I am planning to switch from rapier/shield to caster, as many suggested b4. this staff may work as a start but it will be a very bad choice. You can only as a temporary staff to gain some proficiency, but even then it's quite bad. 1. Cold doesn't match well with katalox, it doesn't have bonus for the right stats. Cold uses Redwood or Willow. 2. Focus is nice at first, but very soon you don't need the magical hit chance bonus. Then, Destruction is so, so much better. 3. Many suggested that you go mage? Did they also tell you that it takes quite some work and investment to get it working at PFUDOR? It is true that you should start working on a decent mage set, but take your time. Get a good staff first. This is not it.
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Nov 15 2022, 14:58
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sillyfish
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 15 2022, 05:42)  this staff may work as a start but it will be a very bad choice. You can only as a temporary staff to gain some proficiency, but even then it's quite bad. 1. Cold doesn't match well with katalox, it doesn't have bonus for the right stats. Cold uses Redwood or Willow. 2. Focus is nice at first, but very soon you don't need the magical hit chance bonus. Then, Destruction is so, so much better. 3. Many suggested that you go mage? Did they also tell you that it takes quite some work and investment to get it working at PFUDOR? It is true that you should start working on a decent mage set, but take your time. Get a good staff first. This is not it.
Thanks for your detailed explanation. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 15 2022, 15:15
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killi890
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QUOTE(Look A Moth @ Nov 15 2022, 03:03)  What is the base droprate of tokens? Wiki doesn't say. Thinking of getting tokenizer perk, but I wanna know how much of an actual boost "Doubles the chance of random mob token drops." actually is, cause if it's something like raising it from 2.5 to 5.0 I'd rather keep my hath.
The wiki does say the droprate. It's 0.2% like artifacts. 20% of that is blood without Tokenizer. This gets less with Tokenizer as the absolute drop amount of blood tokens remains roughly the same. As such, Tokenizer is only really for chaos tokens. Thus Tokenizer 1 will give a good double of RANDOM chaos token drops. (this does not affect clear bonuses) Now how this all interacts with the random encounter (and final arena round) bonuses, we don't know. I think. This post has been edited by killi890: Nov 15 2022, 15:15
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Nov 15 2022, 22:57
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Waitugreat
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 13 2022, 10:00)  yes that would be better, I think. Agi shouldn't be higher than WIS, imho. Personally, I like to keep improving Wis, up to 340 when the good stats are at 400. QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Nov 13 2022, 01:59)  what is the ideal stat distribution for one hand? I'm at level 318 right now so I have: Strength 364 Dexterity 364 Agility 364 Endurance 364 Intelligence 0 Wisdom 318
should I remove points from Agility and leave it at 318 too? that would raise Strength, Dexterity and Endurance to 371
Oooooooooooooooooooooooh. And here I am, a 1 handed weapon and shield user, using only Imperil, Heartseaker, Absorb and such non-offensive/elemental spells, with over 300 points spent to Intelligence. I never bothered really and just spent the attribute points almost equally. Ah well. And since I am now on this I could use the ~ 70.000.000.000 unspent points, too. EDIT: Nevermind. With all the intelligence points removed I was able to only buy one level of one of the other stats. welp, thought the impact would have been a bit higher. This post has been edited by Waitugreat: Nov 15 2022, 23:00
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Nov 16 2022, 00:04
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Thiaguinho-sama
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QUOTE(Waitugreat @ Nov 15 2022, 17:57)  Oooooooooooooooooooooooh.
And here I am, a 1 handed weapon and shield user, using only Imperil, Heartseaker, Absorb and such non-offensive/elemental spells, with over 300 points spent to Intelligence. I never bothered really and just spent the attribute points almost equally. Ah well.
And since I am now on this I could use the ~ 70.000.000.000 unspent points, too.
EDIT: Nevermind. With all the intelligence points removed I was able to only buy one level of one of the other stats. welp, thought the impact would have been a bit higher.
going by the wiki you should also leave Agility and or Wisdom lower than the other stats right now I'm leaving Agility at my level so the rest do become sligthly higher compared to all balanced stats also, I only ever use Imperil against the schoolgirls, never used Absorb right now I can do all Arenas at IWBTH with barely any risk of dying just by doing regular attack and using Heartseeker + Regen while always with Spirit Stance active and when necessary Mana / Spirit Draught This post has been edited by Thiaguinho-sama: Nov 16 2022, 00:06
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Nov 16 2022, 06:23
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wsmd_
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Should I be auto-scrapping from monster loot? I'm level 181 and at the moment I've got it set to auto-scrap crude and average but I've still slowly accumulated so much crap gear, so I'm thinking I should scrap higher but I don't want to miss good gear drops?
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