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post Oct 27 2022, 02:27
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any suggestions on getting Magnificent / Legendary more easily?
buy Noodly Appendage / Gold Coupon in the Market to offer in the Shrine?

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post Oct 27 2022, 04:25
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 27 2022, 00:27) *

any suggestions on getting Magnificent / Legendary more easily?
buy Noodly Appendage / Gold Coupon in the Market to offer in the Shrine?

Play on the highest difficulty you can manage. Trophies are generally better to sell than to shrine, unless you're rich and/or like gambling.
Higher tier trophies have better odds for higher quality gear. IIRC, Noodles have ~2% Legendary rate and ~20% Magnificent, T7 trophies (Stocking Stuffers, Shrine Fortune, clear bonus from 90 round, 95 round, and 100 round arena) have ~10% Legendary rate, ~90% Magnificent.
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post Oct 27 2022, 05:05
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Play on the highest difficulty you can manage. Trophies are generally better to sell than to shrine, unless you're rich and/or like gambling.
Higher tier trophies have better odds for higher quality gear. IIRC, Noodles have ~2% Legendary rate and ~20% Magnificent, T7 trophies (Stocking Stuffers, Shrine Fortune, clear bonus from 90 round, 95 round, and 100 round arena) have ~10% Legendary rate, ~90% Magnificent.

I'm playing at Nintendo right now
I'm selling every trophy except Noodles
Honestly can't say if I'm rich, but I seem to get an average of 200k by completing all the Arena and selling trophies
Though only because I started using Monsterbation, otherwise couldn't endure the grind at Nintendo lol
I would make way less if I had changed to lower difficulty

Anyway, just for some context
Tomorrow I'll have enough Credits for Auto-Cast 4
Auto-Cast 5 costs 1000 Hath, if I continue getting that 200k average that's like 20 days of grind
So I've been wondering if I'm not better off using that money to buy Noodles instead
Until I get at least my entire set at Magnificent
Maybe then IWBTH won't melt my HP anymore lol
There I would make even more Credits

If I always get around 200k + 5 Tokens of Blood to kill Flying Spaghetti Monster
I'll have around 4 to 5 Noodles each day
~2% Legendary rate and ~20% Magnificent anre't that bad odds
So I'm really unsure if I'm better off gambling all that
Or first grinding almost a month for Auto-Cast 5 lol

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Is Orbital Friendship Cannon way stronger than Frenzied Blows?
I saw in the Market all the Figurines for around 12k each
I know it takes 50 turns to cooldown
But I've been wondering if it would at least be good for last round in Arena + Ring of Blood

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post Oct 27 2022, 09:06
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 27 2022, 05:05) *

I'm playing at Nintendo right now
I'm selling every trophy except Noodles
Honestly can't say if I'm rich, but I seem to get an average of 200k by completing all the Arena and selling trophies
Though only because I started using Monsterbation, otherwise couldn't endure the grind at Nintendo lol
I would make way less if I had changed to lower difficulty

Anyway, just for some context
Tomorrow I'll have enough Credits for Auto-Cast 4
Auto-Cast 5 costs 1000 Hath, if I continue getting that 200k average that's like 20 days of grind
So I've been wondering if I'm not better off using that money to buy Noodles instead
Until I get at least my entire set at Magnificent
Maybe then IWBTH won't melt my HP anymore lol
There I would make even more Credits

If I always get around 200k + 5 Tokens of Blood to kill Flying Spaghetti Monster
I'll have around 4 to 5 Noodles each day
~2% Legendary rate and ~20% Magnificent anre't that bad odds
So I'm really unsure if I'm better off gambling all that
Or first grinding almost a month for Auto-Cast 5 lol

Edit
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Is Orbital Friendship Cannon way stronger than Frenzied Blows?
I saw in the Market all the Figurines for around 12k each
I know it takes 50 turns to cooldown
But I've been wondering if it would at least be good for last round in Arena + Ring of Blood


First of all, if you want magnificents & legendaries, play at IWBTH. That should be possible already, try using weaken.

Also, I've never found IA autocast 5 essential. 4 are very good, but the 5th you can live without. Because, you can just cast protection manually, that has a pretty long duration. So I'd not give that priority. Did you do some training already? Scavenger, Quartermaster, Archeologist? That may be a better investment.

OFC: that's a great feature for 1h, but I don't know how good it is for DW - I only play DW in Isekai and there we don't have that cannon. But I'm sure it can be helpful for last rounds. It's similar to FB but stronger and it attacks everything.

If you level up more quickly tthen you'll find better gear in WTS at your level. So I'd recommend playing at highest difficulty possible. Also, consider getting more EXP bonus. Through training, but if you have the means then donating a Gold Star through BTC is something you will not regret. That's such a good investment for HV.
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post Oct 27 2022, 15:32
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 27 2022, 04:06) *

First of all, if you want magnificents & legendaries, play at IWBTH. That should be possible already, try using weaken.

Also, I've never found IA autocast 5 essential. 4 are very good, but the 5th you can live without. Because, you can just cast protection manually, that has a pretty long duration. So I'd not give that priority. Did you do some training already? Scavenger, Quartermaster, Archeologist? That may be a better investment.

OFC: that's a great feature for 1h, but I don't know how good it is for DW - I only play DW in Isekai and there we don't have that cannon. But I'm sure it can be helpful for last rounds. It's similar to FB but stronger and it attacks everything.

If you level up more quickly tthen you'll find better gear in WTS at your level. So I'd recommend playing at highest difficulty possible. Also, consider getting more EXP bonus. Through training, but if you have the means then donating a Gold Star through BTC is something you will not regret. That's such a good investment for HV.

I see, I only ever used Imperil against a few bosses, so I completely forgot Weaknen lol
I'll try with it in the shorter Arena challenges

Protection duration surprised me, only with Monsterbation I realized how long it lasts
It's why I started reconsider getting Auto-Cast 5 for a while
Never did any of those Trainings since I was completely focused on Auto-Cast
I didn't make so much money until recently either
what I have of Training is:
Adept Learner - 80
Ability Boost - 26
Scavenger - 2
Quartermaster - 1
Scavenger and Quartermaster I did years ago, didn't even remember I had levels in them
Looking at their costs, I guess I'll start with Quartermaster
Selling regular gear is where I get a good part of my Credits

Hum, OFC Figurines are not expensive, so maybe I'll get them little by little as I save for Training
it attacks everyone and stun them for 5 turns
just that might already be worth enough

I'm only playing with over 60 Stamina, so I'm getting relatively good experience
x1.8 Training, x2 from Stamina, x2 from posting, x10 from Nintendo
just from that it's already x72, and there's the multiplier from the Arena too
so my level up is pretty consistent for now
I do want the Gold Star, but that will have to wait the next year lol
can't spare the money right now
$100 bucks is basically 500 in my currency lol

Anyway, thanks for the help, I'll try again IWBTH with Weaken and do some Training first to see how it goes

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post Oct 28 2022, 05:00
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So, this is my current Club https://hentaiverse.org/equip/284442079/6058f214ac
Just got this one https://hentaiverse.org/equip/284675913/08c090b1aa
should I bother IW10 it?
or wait until I get a Ethereal that is also Slaughter?
since that would be the "ideal" for dual wielding

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post Oct 28 2022, 05:54
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 00:00) *

So, this is my current Club https://hentaiverse.org/equip/284442079/6058f214ac
Just got this one https://hentaiverse.org/equip/284675913/08c090b1aa
should I bother IW10 it?
or wait until I get a Ethereal that is also Slaughter?
since that would be the "ideal" for dual wielding


As this equipment is Ethereal, you can do it to IW9. No need to go to the end.

Even though it is not a definitive equipment, it is worth doing IW to earn the potencies.
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post Oct 28 2022, 06:25
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 28 2022, 00:54) *

As this equipment is Ethereal, you can do it to IW9. No need to go to the end.

Even though it is not a definitive equipment, it is worth doing IW to earn the potencies.

I see, I'll get around doing it then
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post Oct 28 2022, 18:51
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Do I need to do anything in particular to unlock the Orbital Friendship Cannon?
I got all Figurines, so wondering if I need to be at a certain level or wait for the next day to get it

Also, I was curious if I could find in the WTS any Magnificent or Legendary gear around my level
or at least close enough that I could use it soon
saw this Shortsword for my off-hand
[270943879] Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Balance (353, PXP 357, ADB 41%, Parry 11%, Str 43%, Dex 53%, Agi 94%)
Should I make an offer?
Ideal would be a Rapier, but with just 80 levels difference, I could easily just buy how many Soul Fragments I'm missing to Soulfuse

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post Oct 28 2022, 19:21
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 10:51) *

Do I need to do anything in particular to unlock the Orbital Friendship Cannon?
I got all Figurines, so wondering if I need to be at a certain level or wait for the next day to get it

Also, I was curious if I could find in the WTS any Magnificent or Legendary gear around my level
or at least close enough that I could use it soon
saw this Shortsword for my off-hand
[270943879] Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Balance (353, PXP 357, ADB 41%, Parry 11%, Str 43%, Dex 53%, Agi 94%)
Should I make an offer?
Ideal would be a Rapier, but with just 80 levels difference, I could easily just buy how many Soul Fragments I'm missing to Soulfuse


the cannon activates after few tens hrs after you got 21 different figurines. what you have to do is simply keep them inside your inventory. If your figurine count is less than 21 then you'll lose this ability.

This shortsword, if I were you, I won't consider it at all. Try to only soulfuse stuff with good stats. They will bind to you forever. If you eventually find something better then you simply waste everything on this one. Try looking for something you can use directly.
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post Oct 28 2022, 19:32
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 18:51) *

Do I need to do anything in particular to unlock the Orbital Friendship Cannon?
I got all Figurines, so wondering if I need to be at a certain level or wait for the next day to get it

Also, I was curious if I could find in the WTS any Magnificent or Legendary gear around my level
or at least close enough that I could use it soon
saw this Shortsword for my off-hand
[270943879] Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Balance (353, PXP 357, ADB 41%, Parry 11%, Str 43%, Dex 53%, Agi 94%)
Should I make an offer?
Ideal would be a Rapier, but with just 80 levels difference, I could easily just buy how many Soul Fragments I'm missing to Soulfuse

You may want to install the Smart Search script (you can find it in the script section of the forum). You'll find some interesting gear for your level. What I would do is I'd ask lolo (https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=207951&st=0&p=4909741&#entry4909741) for that waki. Lolo is often online on the discord: [discord.gg] https://discord.gg/TzR9V6H

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post Oct 28 2022, 19:38
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Oct 28 2022, 14:21) *

the cannon activates after few tens hrs after you got 21 different figurines. what you have to do is simply keep them inside your inventory. If your figurine count is less than 21 then you'll lose this ability.

This shortsword, if I were you, I won't consider it at all. Try to only soulfuse stuff with good stats. They will bind to you forever. If you eventually find something better then you simply waste everything on this one. Try looking for something you can use directly.

ha, okay, I suspected that was the case, but just wanted to be sure

as for that Shortsword, mostly considering it because it's a Ethereal I could use
though ideal is a Rapier
I forgot to mention, but I'm also wondering about this club
[281353062] Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter (402, PXP 363, ADB 73%, Str 16%, Dex 93%, Agi 76%)
still need 29 levels to Soulfuse, but it's basically the "ideal" club for dual wielding
I'm still getting around 4 to 5 levels a day by doing the entire Arena at highest difficulty I can
so it actually wouldn't take long for me to be able to Soulfuse it
and since it's the "ideal" for my build, it might actually be worth Soulfuse
after all better only if it was Peerless, but I won't be able to use one any time soon
so it might be a better investment than that Shortsword
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post Oct 28 2022, 19:44
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 28 2022, 14:32) *

You may want to install the Smart Search script (you can find it in the script section of the forum). You'll find some interesting gear for your level. What I would do is I'd ask lolo (https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=207951&st=0&p=4909741&#entry4909741) for that waki. Lolo is often online on the discord: [discord.gg] https://discord.gg/TzR9V6H

yeah I figured out how to use Smart Search, fortunately lol
but I did completely forgot waki was an alternative too
wouldn't this be a better waki for off-hand?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/283990577/03ba9a1562

Edit
Forgot to say, I'm using Club in main hand

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post Oct 28 2022, 21:04
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 19:44) *

yeah I figured out how to use Smart Search, fortunately lol
but I did completely forgot waki was an alternative too
wouldn't this be a better waki for off-hand?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/283990577/03ba9a1562

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Forgot to say, I'm using Club in main hand

yes with that waki you should be able to do pfudor DW
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post Oct 28 2022, 21:19
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 28 2022, 16:04) *

yes with that waki you should be able to do pfudor DW

thanks
though I'm honestly still not confortable enough with my gear for pfudor lol
need better armor
but should at least make IWBTH faster
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post Oct 28 2022, 22:04
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about armor
in the long run should I drop light armor for heavy armor?
I've been using Leather / Shade so far
but wondering if i should start keeping an eye for heavy armor instead
i'm probably going to keep playing as dual wielding too
unless one hand / shield, two hand or niten are more practical in the higher levels lol

Edit
maybe change to two handed mace / heavy armor in the long run?
from what I looked regular attack has chance to hit multiple enemies
and two skills that hit up to five enemies

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post Oct 28 2022, 23:09
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 17:04) *

about armor
in the long run should I drop light armor for heavy armor?
I've been using Leather / Shade so far
but wondering if i should start keeping an eye for heavy armor instead
i'm probably going to keep playing as dual wielding too
unless one hand / shield, two hand or niten are more practical in the higher levels lol

Edit
maybe change to two handed mace / heavy armor in the long run?
from what I looked regular attack has chance to hit multiple enemies
and two skills that hit up to five enemies


Heavy armor only works with 1H (in most cases, and especially for low level players). For all other styles, the appropriate equipment is light.

Only when you have high levels of defense and attack (high level, good equipment, high forge and Dæmon Duality perks) that you will be able to use heavy armor with all styles.
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post Oct 28 2022, 23:13
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 28 2022, 18:09) *

Heavy armor only works with 1H (in most cases, and especially for low level players). For all other styles, the appropriate equipment is light.

Only when you have high levels of defense and attack (high level, good equipment, high forge and Dæmon Duality perks) that you will be able to use heavy armor with all styles.

hum, I see, then I'll just try changing my weapon
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post Oct 29 2022, 09:34
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QUOTE(Thiaguinho-sama @ Oct 28 2022, 22:04) *

about armor
in the long run should I drop light armor for heavy armor?
I've been using Leather / Shade so far
but wondering if i should start keeping an eye for heavy armor instead
i'm probably going to keep playing as dual wielding too
unless one hand / shield, two hand or niten are more practical in the higher levels lol

Edit
maybe change to two handed mace / heavy armor in the long run?
from what I looked regular attack has chance to hit multiple enemies
and two skills that hit up to five enemies

I would not recommend switching to 2h. That style just sucks.... well it's possible to play it, but it's not very good at anything. Niten can be used in combination with DW, it can be a bit faster in normal arenas when you have very good gear. 1h is a completely separate set, with heavy armors. More likely, when you level up a bit more you could start a mage set to clear the arena's a bit faster. 1h + shield + heavy armor is way more defensive, and would allow you to play everything on PFUDOR. But if you practice your skill in DW, get the timing of FB just right, then PFUDOR is also possible with crappy gear. Perhaps you should focus a bit on your armor, when you have magnificent weapons? Get some good shades and perhaps even a leather of protection, forge them a bit, and then play PFUDOR.

The last rounds of arena's are hardest. Either begin them with a full blast of OFC, or with Frenzied Blows. Try to kill off at least 3 of those monsters. Then put 1-2 of them to sleep, and you'll be facing only 5 monster.

If FB doesn't kill any, just select the bottom most monster. That way FB will only attack 3 of them. If that doesn't kill them, do it in Spirit Stance - although that's dangerous to switch on. So you'd need to do that at the end of previous round and you need to have a lot of overcharge for that.
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post Oct 29 2022, 13:11
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 29 2022, 04:34) *

I would not recommend switching to 2h. That style just sucks.... well it's possible to play it, but it's not very good at anything. Niten can be used in combination with DW, it can be a bit faster in normal arenas when you have very good gear. 1h is a completely separate set, with heavy armors. More likely, when you level up a bit more you could start a mage set to clear the arena's a bit faster. 1h + shield + heavy armor is way more defensive, and would allow you to play everything on PFUDOR. But if you practice your skill in DW, get the timing of FB just right, then PFUDOR is also possible with crappy gear. Perhaps you should focus a bit on your armor, when you have magnificent weapons? Get some good shades and perhaps even a leather of protection, forge them a bit, and then play PFUDOR.

The last rounds of arena's are hardest. Either begin them with a full blast of OFC, or with Frenzied Blows. Try to kill off at least 3 of those monsters. Then put 1-2 of them to sleep, and you'll be facing only 5 monster.

If FB doesn't kill any, just select the bottom most monster. That way FB will only attack 3 of them. If that doesn't kill them, do it in Spirit Stance - although that's dangerous to switch on. So you'd need to do that at the end of previous round and you need to have a lot of overcharge for that.

really? I've been trying it with a subpar Mace at Hell, it's doing pretty well, probably because I'm always stunning 5 to 6 enemies constantly lol
no idea how well two hand do with other weapons though
Niten I never tried since I was already with Club and Rapier
one hand I do want to try but first I need an entire new set of heavy armor, so I'm keeping an eye on whatever I get until then
for some reason I have no interest in playing as a Mage
who need Intelligence anynyway? unga bunga all the way
dual wield I'm overall doing pretty well except when every round becomes like 8 to 10 monster
my Frenzied Blow isn't always killing anymore even if I hit bottom enemy
so I guess I need better weapon

last round I actually never had that much problem cause I always use Iris Strike in the strong enemies
that gets them blind for 200 turns lol
OFC is definitely making it even easier now though
Sleep and other spells like that I still mostly miss
so I end up rarely using them :v

Spirit Stance I pretty much never used anymore in favour of the dual wield skills

anyway, I'm still unsure what I'll do in the long run
for now messing around at lower difficulties
seeing how well I do with two handed Mace and then with one hand as soon as I get some decent ish gear
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