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post Jun 27 2022, 22:16
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Actually (it's been a while since I've thought about this, but I was one of the people who did some of those calculations) the more end-game and peerless you get, the better Butcher (kind of) and especially Fatality get, while Overpower stays the same independent of your equipment. Overpower gets better as the monster population gets stronger, which occurs continuously over time and is independent of yourself.

These days it's not for certain how Overpower and Fatality compare in 1H, so B5 and F/O anything could be fine, or even B/F/O any combination. With the addition of the L400 and L500 schoolgirl arenas and removal of shorter arenas, probably Dark/Holy Strike are confidently (slightly) superior over Cold Strike (this had been another close debate for some).

Potencies are about to change anyway so none of this may matter soon.
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post Jun 28 2022, 00:52
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jun 27 2022, 20:51) *

Tenboro said that everyone would be adequately compensated for your materials and catalyst costs. I assume that will be true, but it will be hard not to come out slightly ahead (or behind) after the changes. Especially regarding ultra expensive item worlds (exactly for Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter which most would say should be B5F4 plus a preferred element).

Also, if Mantra didn't know about the reset, then he might not know about the new system whereby anyone can make peerless and possibly higher than peerless equipment. Because of that, some players like Skirt With Legs dumped all their peerless rapier of slaughter collection, half a year ago. And prices of peerless became unstable.

But still, congrats on the rapier because it looks nice and has a lot of 000 in the item name, just like this club. People might laugh, but I'm ocd and I slightly consider how nice the item numbers are, haha.

Better than peerless? What did I miss?
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post Jun 28 2022, 08:08
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jun 27 2022, 22:52) *

Better than peerless? What did I miss?


See "Future Changes to Equipment Mechanics" here.
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post Jun 28 2022, 09:42
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Saw they added a market to Isekai. Are there any plans on implementing that in Persistent?
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post Jun 28 2022, 09:47
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jun 28 2022, 06:52) *

Better than peerless? What did I miss?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ post Dec 21 2021, 17:17) *

Due to the scale of the changes, it is unlikely that it all makes it into one update. Until the changes have been fully implemented, the updates will be deployed to Isekai only. In other words, this won't be be relevant for Persistent for at least one year.


QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 28 2022, 15:11) *

It's very unlikely that all the changes can make it into one update, and I probably won't push it to Persistent until it's finished, at least unless a lot of people would rather get the new system early at the cost of bits being missing.


Long way to go I would assume, and the at least one year I would also assume it delay to one year from now on. I won't wait not do anything on my equip until the update apply if I really want to use them, as who know if I still alive a year later, and a lots of things are still (probably) or (possible)

QUOTE(keyo92 @ Jun 28 2022, 15:42) *

Saw they added a market to Isekai. Are there any plans on implementing that in Persistent?

They will come to Persistent in one month unless something bad happen, with no more bug they should come in half month
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post Jun 28 2022, 09:53
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QUOTE(what_is_name @ Jun 28 2022, 00:47) *

Long way to go I would assume, and the at least one year I would also assume it delay to one year from now on. I won't wait not do anything on my equip until the update apply if I really want to use them, as who know if I still alive a year later, and a lots of things are still (probably) or (possible)
They will come to Persistent in one month unless something bad happen, with no more bug they should come in half month


Yay! I missed the HVmarket.
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post Jun 28 2022, 19:43
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Sooo, guys.

Can anyone explain me about this gruesome Riddlemaster feature, which has been implanted while I didnt play the game?

At the beginning I got almost all puzzles wrong, but now ( Iam not entirely sure ) they are mostly correct, but still !


" stamina drains 50% faster! "

it is impossible, to remove that !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and the thing which is even more strange is.. that " stamina " is getting red coloured, once it reaches 99 again, even though I did not even play.

for example, it was at 90 and not red, but now its 99 and red ?? huuh? why?? I did not guess any riddles wrong.. I did not play at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Iam on my way of getting my mage gear upgraded, but with this 50% penalty which is not removable... I dont even need to try to play on a long run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jun 28 2022, 22:34
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 28 2022, 19:43) *

Sooo, guys.

Can anyone explain me about this gruesome Riddlemaster feature, which has been implanted while I didnt play the game?

At the beginning I got almost all puzzles wrong, but now ( Iam not entirely sure ) they are mostly correct, but still !
" stamina drains 50% faster! "

it is impossible, to remove that !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and the thing which is even more strange is.. that " stamina " is getting red coloured, once it reaches 99 again, even though I did not even play.

for example, it was at 90 and not red, but now its 99 and red ?? huuh? why?? I did not guess any riddles wrong.. I did not play at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Iam on my way of getting my mage gear upgraded, but with this 50% penalty which is not removable... I dont even need to try to play on a long run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

it is removable.
1. Study the pony chart, it's on the wiki
2. Repeat step 1. until you think you know them
3. Then study the chart for 5 min. more.
4. Then play some HV, until you get a riddle
5. Select all correct ponies, and then click submit
6. Repeat step 4 until HV addiction kicks in again
then you'll see, the red stamina is gone soon. How soon? We don't know. And those who do know don't want to tell. So yeah.
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post Jun 28 2022, 22:35
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 28 2022, 10:43) *

Sooo, guys.

Can anyone explain me about this gruesome Riddlemaster feature, which has been implanted while I didnt play the game?

At the beginning I got almost all puzzles wrong, but now ( Iam not entirely sure ) they are mostly correct, but still !
" stamina drains 50% faster! "

it is impossible, to remove that !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and the thing which is even more strange is.. that " stamina " is getting red coloured, once it reaches 99 again, even though I did not even play.

for example, it was at 90 and not red, but now its 99 and red ?? huuh? why?? I did not guess any riddles wrong.. I did not play at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Iam on my way of getting my mage gear upgraded, but with this 50% penalty which is not removable... I dont even need to try to play on a long run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


New riddlemaster can potentially have 3 answers (3 different ponies) and you must select all 3 choices to answer correctly BUT sometimes there are 3 ponies but the same one and in that case your answer will be 1 choice. Or only 2 then pick 2. But it will always show 3 ponies (images can repeat, and one image can be pinkie pie riding a pinkie pie, that specific image counts as 1)

You must play more and over time your correct answers will bring up your average answered correct and you will no longer be red stamina. The average to determine how well you're answering is not a lifetime average but the length from which the average is taken is unknown (I think).

Basically, keep answering correctly as often as you can and one person hint, if you are positive you can't see a pony because it is very faded and makes you think it's invisible, it's probably flutteryshy.


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post Jun 28 2022, 22:56
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And why is my Stamina back to red when I did not even play? so basically my stamina recovers and suddenly turns red?

It was its usual colour but with +50% faster drain, but while recovering it turned red again
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post Jun 28 2022, 23:06
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 28 2022, 22:56) *

And why is my Stamina back to red when I did not even play? so basically my stamina recovers and suddenly turns red?

It was its usual colour but with +50% faster drain, but while recovering it turned red again

apparently.
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post Jun 29 2022, 02:00
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I always found it easy to identify the ponies if you focus on thier tails or face.

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post Jun 29 2022, 05:28
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 29 2022, 05:56) *

And why is my Stamina back to red when I did not even play? so basically my stamina recovers and suddenly turns red?

It was its usual colour but with +50% faster drain, but while recovering it turned red again


iinm the increased stamina cost penalty from current riddlemaster is permanent until you reach certain (not divulged) correct answer ratio when answering riddlemaster. just like before that you'll keep losing 10+ stamina for each wrong answer if you didn't start giving more correct answer.

In my experience I found that answering 2 and leaving the 3rd as empty when you're unsure about it would give better ratio than answering 3 with guessing 1 possible wrong answer.
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post Jun 29 2022, 07:30
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I don't understand how isekai moogle mail trading works if that even exists. The wiki seems to imply that you can only CoD for persistant credits so if I send an item from isekai with a CoD is that item being sent to that player's persistent or can you toggle if it's sent to their persistent or isekai? In the case of the latter does accepting an item in isekai just drain the credits from their persistent?
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post Jun 29 2022, 07:38
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 29 2022, 07:30) *

I don't understand how isekai moogle mail trading works if that even exists. The wiki seems to imply that you can only CoD for persistant credits so if I send an item from isekai with a CoD is that item being sent to that player's persistent or can you toggle if it's sent to their persistent or isekai? In the case of the latter does accepting an item in isekai just drain the credits from their persistent?

Isekai MM works same as normal MM. If you set CoD, then it does the CoD within Isekai only. If a buyer wants you so send CoD on persistent, that means that you send the stuff without CoD in isekai. then, you go to your persistent MM and send a health draught with CoD for the amount that you want for the isekai stuff.

There is a script that automates that: HV Utils. Try it, for me it's the best script out there. HV Utils lets you check a box in isekai 'send CoD on persistent' -> then it sends 2 MM, one in isekai without CoD, one in persistent with CoD on 1 credit attachment.

Of course, you don't get the 100% security of CoD , the buyer needs to accept both MM. But this has never gone wrong so far. Because, if news spread that someone didn't pay, no one will trade with that person anymore.
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post Jun 29 2022, 07:39
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 29 2022, 13:30) *

I don't understand how isekai moogle mail trading works if that even exists. The wiki seems to imply that you can only CoD for persistant credits so if I send an item from isekai with a CoD is that item being sent to that player's persistent or can you toggle if it's sent to their persistent or isekai? In the case of the latter does accepting an item in isekai just drain the credits from their persistent?


Are you using HV Utils? Send Cod to persistent seem to be a "function" for HV Utils, not a built-in function of HV.

There is no way to send item from isekai to persistent.
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post Jun 29 2022, 08:00
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 29 2022, 01:38) *

Isekai MM works same as normal MM. If you set CoD, then it does the CoD within Isekai only. If a buyer wants you so send CoD on persistent, that means that you send the stuff without CoD in isekai. then, you go to your persistent MM and send a health draught with CoD for the amount that you want for the isekai stuff.

There is a script that automates that: HV Utils. Try it, for me it's the best script out there. HV Utils lets you check a box in isekai 'send CoD on persistent' -> then it sends 2 MM, one in isekai without CoD, one in persistent with CoD on 1 credit attachment.

Of course, you don't get the 100% security of CoD , the buyer needs to accept both MM. But this has never gone wrong so far. Because, if news spread that someone didn't pay, no one will trade with that person anymore.

Ah ok i think i get it now, and I already have that script installed so I'll probably try it out when I sell gear to another player.

QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 29 2022, 01:39) *

Are you using HV Utils? Send Cod to persistent seem to be a "function" for HV Utils, not a built-in function of HV.

There is no way to send item from isekai to persistent.


Didn't even acknowledge that the send cod to persistent button was even there, the wiki and noni's auction in the isekai sub-section seemed to imply you could ONLY cod for persistent credits which implys you could trade items to and only to persistent since I didn't know about the trick Noni just mentioned.
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post Jun 29 2022, 13:39
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 29 2022, 02:00) *

Ah ok i think i get it now, and I already have that script installed so I'll probably try it out when I sell gear to another player.
Didn't even acknowledge that the send cod to persistent button was even there, the wiki and noni's auction in the isekai sub-section seemed to imply you could ONLY cod for persistent credits which implys you could trade items to and only to persistent since I didn't know about the trick Noni just mentioned.


That wiki section pertains to the rules of isekai trading, not the actual mechanics.
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post Jun 29 2022, 14:10
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Hi, guys.
One stupid question: can you block without a shield? So, does Shielding prefix on armor work with non-1h fighting style?
Character stats screen shows nonzero block chance in that case, but does it really work or it is a bug?
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post Jun 29 2022, 14:17
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QUOTE(Kyrie80 @ Jun 29 2022, 20:10) *

Hi, guys.
One stupid question: can you block without a shield? So, does Shielding prefix on armor work with non-1h fighting style?
Character stats screen shows nonzero block chance in that case, but does it really work or it is a bug?


It work, but it only increase your defensive if you're not 1h fighting style, only the 1h fighting style can stun and counter monsters with block. More than that, 1h fighting style can even stun and counter monsters when parry the attack
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