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Yes and no. For Juggernaut the level of importance increases depending on your level, type of gear and style. Having a greater tank means your Full Cures are more powerful and a larger proportion of damage is taken by your HP bar instead of the SP one once it gets to powerful hits that proc Spirit Shield so as you can guess cloth armor and as such mages benefit more from getting Jug levels compared to say heavy armor users who may not prioritize it as much.

Capacitor is in my opinion the worst of the bunch since Draughts and Potions work on a percentage basis of the base MP bar and you mostly benefit from Elixir usage. As Melee even with Imperil you should very rarely, if ever, need to resort to Elixirs as pots and draughts should be enough to cover for the imperil+cure usage most of the time. And even as mage resorting to Elixirs isn't ideal and the whole point of the proficiency dance and damage increase etc. is to actually decrease the impact on your MP bar and consumables and increase your survival, comfort and profit so I would recommend going for it only if money isn't an issue, you're going for a record or want big e-penis with your massive MP tank.

The elemental mitigation stuff is a bit unclear as far as I can tell. If there's a noticeable effect it should be mostly amongst heavy armor users who are the most vulnerable to magic attacks due to low resist. Mages are fast and rely on being fast to survive so they shouldn't be getting hit by many magic attacks and spirit attacks as the monsters should ideally be dead long before they get to use them. And Light armor users have high MMit and Resist too so despite being slower and having to 'tank' more magic attacks they aren't really a threat that requires you to go out of the way to get specific elemental mitigations on your armor.
Oh and one more thing, Undeads and Daimons are the only ones who get Dark magic attacks but those are gated behind the third skill of the monsters which uses SP, and fast enough attackers get to kill these before they even get to charge their Dark attacks so you can actually get hit with 0 dark damage at all thus if there was one elemental mit of low worth it would be Darkproof.

In conclusion it's recommended to get some IW on your armors after your weapon is done, as every little bit helps, but not to an extent that you should go crazy chasing specific 5+5 combinations for all your gear. But Juggernaut 5 is nice to have for sure.

As for the last part yeah, if you're doing the IW yourself start with the easiest one as it should end up being the same.

Isn't it so difficult and expensive for self-IW? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Trying to prepare equipment for mage, but it seem to be inefficient or expensive without Dark Descent.

Thinking about prepare 3m more to IW shop before soulfuse cloths and start mage (5+4 staff should definitely find IW shop, it's impossible to self-IW without Dark Descent )

Hi experts, it's me again! I was doing IW for my first legendary that I found in the bazaar(so I have to do the IW myself...). But I noticed that I simply cannot survive.

I am able to do all arenas at pfudor, but in IW I'm dying at ~30 rounds. I tried lowering the difficulty to ibwth and died at ~70 rounds.

Is it that IW is simply not for beginners, or I'm having problem with my gears and how I play?

These are my gears:
1H
Shield
Helmet
Armor
Hands
Leggings
Feet

This is how I play:
Use voidseeker shard and 1 enchantment, before each round cast weaken and imperil (so every time I die because I run out of mana and potion is still on CD), SoL + SS + Protection + Heartseeker always on, use Haste and SV scrolls if needed (because I don't have enough ability points, although I already trained 40 additional ability points), OFC when monster>6. And I’m using the mosterbation script.

P.S. You have helped me really a lot in the past days, thank you experts!

This post has been edited by CatEatsFishEatsCat: Jun 8 2022, 16:19

Hi experts, it's me again! I was doing IW for my first legendary that I found in the bazaar(so I have to do the IW myself...). But I noticed that I simply cannot survive.

I am able to do all arenas at pfudor, but in IW I'm dying at ~30 rounds. I tried lowering the difficulty to ibwth and died at ~70 rounds.

Is it that IW is simply not for beginners, or I'm having problem with my gears and how I play?

use mag/legendary plate instead of exq power and forge the block of the shield, that should help a bit

Hi experts, it's me again! I was doing IW for my first legendary that I found in the bazaar(so I have to do the IW myself...). But I noticed that I simply cannot survive.

I am able to do all arenas at pfudor, but in IW I'm dying at ~30 rounds. I tried lowering the difficulty to ibwth and died at ~70 rounds.

Is it that IW is simply not for beginners, or I'm having problem with my gears and how I play?

These are my gears:
1H
Shield
Helmet
Armor
Hands
Leggings
Feet

This is how I play:
Use voidseeker shard and 1 enchantment, before each round cast weaken and imperil (so every time I die because I run out of mana and potion is still on CD), SoL + SS + Protection + Heartseeker always on, use Haste and SV scrolls if needed (because I don't have enough ability points, although I already trained 40 additional ability points), OFC when monster>6. And I’m using the mosterbation script.

P.S. You have helped me really a lot in the past days, thank you experts!

1.Upgrade your block chance of shield to 20+
2.Use Health Elixir & Last Elixir(If you really want to self IW)
3.You may just go to IW shop if you just want to simple IW(just about 100K and have discount for your level)
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=255505
4.Try to equip shielding plate, it should make you more safe at your level
legendary IW is much danger than Arena

This post has been edited by BA-ZA-HEI: Jun 8 2022, 17:19

Tried that, it does nothing, not even change my current settings.
How do i delete the local storage settings? also putting a line of code in linter says "," are incorrect and need to be changed to ";" which then states that that line of code is correct, however doing so breaks the script when actually playing is that related to the local storage thing?

Local storage can be accessed by right click on browser window, inspect. Then it depends on the browser where you can see it. Under application / storage for instance.

Easier way? delete Monsterbation script, grab Ccleaner, run it, lose all your cookies & locally stored settings, and start anew with a fresh MB version. Works, but will for instance log you out. So make sure you know your password.

also, I can confirm that the 'reset' button does nothing if you get into such a situation where there is a bit of broken code but the script still runs. For me, it was a typo in the main script, that got copied into every locally stored setting. ccleaner did fix it, but i had to start all over creating my monsterbation settings. Also, my HV Utils gift logs / shrine logs were gone

This post has been edited by Noni: Jun 8 2022, 17:21

Local storage can be accessed by right click on browser window, inspect. Then it depends on the browser where you can see it. Under application / storage for instance.

Easier way? delete Monsterbation script, grab Ccleaner, run it, lose all your cookies & locally stored settings, and start anew with a fresh MB version. Works, but will for instance log you out. So make sure you know your password.

also, I can confirm that the 'reset' button does nothing if you get into such a situation where there is a bit of broken code but the script still runs. For me, it was a typo in the main script, that got copied into every locally stored setting. ccleaner did fix it, but i had to start all over creating my monsterbation settings. Also, my HV Utils gift logs / shrine logs were gone

Deleted Monserbation, downloaded Ccleaner, ran it, reopened browser, grabbed the monsterbation script from the thread and put it back it, opened the game, made a change to persistant in the monsterbation settings and saved and exit, it saved. went back it, selected persona1 under isekai everything is faded out like usual, made a change to that setting and saved and exit, it saved. Now i switch back to persistant, checked settings, its the same as my first change so that's good. Switched to isekai, checked settings, it's the persistant settings... used the drop box at the bottom to select persona 1 under isekai and it still kept the changes i made to that, but assuming the settings i see when i open the setting page are for the current mode then it means it wont let me actually switch to the other non-persisiant settings? Again it seems like I'm doing something wrong because i find it bizarre that there's this many issues trying to use a basic function of the script itself on a fresh install.

Deleted Monserbation, downloaded Ccleaner, ran it, reopened browser, grabbed the monsterbation script from the thread and put it back it, opened the game, made a change to persistant in the monsterbation settings and saved and exit, it saved. went back it, selected persona1 under isekai everything is faded out like usual, made a change to that setting and saved and exit, it saved. Now i switch back to persistant, checked settings, its the same as my first change so that's good. Switched to isekai, checked settings, it's the persistant settings... used the drop box at the bottom to select persona 1 under isekai and it still kept the changes i made to that, but assuming the settings i see when i open the setting page are for the current mode then it means it wont let me actually switch to the other non-persisiant settings? Again it seems like I'm doing something wrong because i find it bizarre that there's this many issues trying to use a basic function of the script itself on a fresh install.

if you open the settings, you don't get to see the currently selected settings, but the settings from persistent. You need to select the iseaki one, and then change some settings, then set, save, exit.
but not changing anything won't work. Yeah, I really think monsterbation has become too complex with the 'settings gui'.... however, we don't have any alternative. If you still can't get it to work, change to a different browser and try again.. It really is possible to get it to work.

Isn't it so difficult and expensive for self-IW? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Trying to prepare equipment for mage, but it seem to be inefficient or expensive without Dark Descent.

Thinking about prepare 3m more to IW shop before soulfuse cloths and start mage (5+4 staff should definitely find IW shop, it's impossible to self-IW without Dark Descent )

It depends mostly on how prepared you are gear-wise and perk-wise on top of how lucky you are with the potencies even if you don't have Dark Descent. If there's a positive thing with IWing your stuff is that you get to keep everything that drops during those runs, get extra exp and overall get to test how strong is your current set in difficult environments which is useful as a prep stage for Grindfests. And there's no choice with soulbound equips so it's nice to have some experience doing those too.
The IW services on the forums seem to be relatively cheap, so if you struggle a lot or just don't have the time to do in within a month don't hesitate to send it to one of those before soulfusing though.

Deleted Monserbation, downloaded Ccleaner, ran it, reopened browser, grabbed the monsterbation script from the thread and put it back it, opened the game, made a change to persistant in the monsterbation settings and saved and exit, it saved. went back it, selected persona1 under isekai everything is faded out like usual, made a change to that setting and saved and exit, it saved. Now i switch back to persistant, checked settings, its the same as my first change so that's good. Switched to isekai, checked settings, it's the persistant settings... used the drop box at the bottom to select persona 1 under isekai and it still kept the changes i made to that, but assuming the settings i see when i open the setting page are for the current mode then it means it wont let me actually switch to the other non-persisiant settings? Again it seems like I'm doing something wrong because i find it bizarre that there's this many issues trying to use a basic function of the script itself on a fresh install.

As Noni mentioned, whenever you click on the Monsterbation settings be it on Persistent or Isekai the dropdown at the bottom will always say "[persistent]". This doesn't mean however that your settings weren't saved or that your current monsterbation profile isn't the isekai one (if opening from isekai). So far it seems you're doing fine so try in a battle and see if it works properly now.

By the way I'll mention this just in case you're using HVUtils, merely as a cautionary tale. There's this menu at the top of HVUtils that lets you change personas in a single click, however sometimes Monsterbation doesn't notice this change and keeps your settings from the last persona so if you have disabled the Monsterbation menu in battle like me there's a chance you'll be stuck with those settings for the whole battle until you finish. This can be avoided by going to another menu like upgrade or equip shop which makes Monsterbation update the persona change properly and said behaviour doesn't always happen but yeah, if you have multiple personas just be wary of that too as it can be yet another reason why settings are wonky in battle.

This post has been edited by Pretty anon: Jun 9 2022, 00:59

if you open the settings, you don't get to see the currently selected settings, but the settings from persistent. You need to select the iseaki one, and then change some settings, then set, save, exit.
but not changing anything won't work. Yeah, I really think monsterbation has become too complex with the 'settings gui'.... however, we don't have any alternative. If you still can't get it to work, change to a different browser and try again.. It really is possible to get it to work.

I think it's finally working. and like you and Pretty anon mentioned the fact that opening the settings doesn't show you the current settings for the profile kinda fucked with my head a bit. Thank you for all the help and dealing with me this long, hopefully I don't have any more issues.

I can't play First Blood and Learning Curves arena challenge (see attachment). I checked the wiki and there should be a level 1-100 and level 101-300 button at the top but I don't have that. How do I fix this issue?

I can't play First Blood and Learning Curves arena challenge (see attachment). I checked the wiki and there should be a level 1-100 and level 101-300 button at the top but I don't have that. How do I fix this issue?

I didn't even know there was supposed to be a button for that. I thought the easier Arena challenges just went away once you got too high-level for them. The shortest one still listed for me is Growing Storm at 20 rounds.
I guess I unknowingly had the same problem you do

I can't play First Blood and Learning Curves arena challenge (see attachment). I checked the wiki and there should be a level 1-100 and level 101-300 button at the top but I don't have that. How do I fix this issue?

The wiki is out of date; there's only one page now instead of two.

I didn't even know there was supposed to be a button for that. I thought the easier Arena challenges just went away once you got too high-level for them. The shortest one still listed for me is Growing Storm at 20 rounds.
I guess I unknowingly had the same problem you do

No, you were correct. The lower levels arenas become unavailable as you gain access to higher level ones, limiting the total number of arenas that you can play.

I can't play First Blood and Learning Curves arena challenge (see attachment). I checked the wiki and there should be a level 1-100 and level 101-300 button at the top but I don't have that. How do I fix this issue?

which page exactly? I'll update the wiki

edit: done. I used your screenshot to replace the old pic

This post has been edited by Noni: Jun 9 2022, 22:25

The wiki is out of date; there's only one page now instead of two.
No, you were correct. The lower levels arenas become unavailable as you gain access to higher level ones, limiting the total number of arenas that you can play.

Darn I was hoping to do those low levels for zero effort easy equipment drops

which page exactly? I'll update the wiki

edit: done. I used your screenshot to replace the old pic

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Didn't expect my screenshot to be used on the wiki but note that it doesn't use the default hv font so here's another screenshot below if you want that. Otherwise you can leave it with my original screenshot.

In which order are evade,parry,block applied when being attacked? If I play 1H warrior, will shadow veil and haste decrease my damage per click due to less counter attack?

In which order are evade,parry,block applied when being attacked? If I play 1H warrior, will shadow veil and haste decrease my damage per click due to less counter attack?

Over time.
Attack damage is the same.

Evading can also counter (although I have not 1H for a long time, don't know if version changes)


But if you are saying damage per click, yes.
as you are moving faster and in contrast, monster move slower and attack fewer.
This lead to more click with same time. and same attack damage.

In which order are evade,parry,block applied when being attacked? If I play 1H warrior, will shadow veil and haste decrease my damage per click due to less counter attack?

Evade comes first. So yes, shadow veil and haste DO reduce your chance of counter, thus reduce your overall damage.

But whether you should use them (or add them to your auto-cast slots) depends on your survivability. After all, it is better to stay alive than deal more damage but die halfway.

Ans since you are Lv.360, I assume your gear should be good enough to survive without shadow veil and haste.

This post has been edited by OnceForAll: Jun 10 2022, 17:44

Rather than damage per click or over time, wouldn't the reduced overcharge be a bigger factor? Currently I keep Haste on but Shadow Veil off, and in SG Arenas I don't get enough quite enough Overcharge to keep Spirit Stance on full-time (even ignoring Vital Strike). I can usually get three or four rounds before runs out. If Shadow Veil's evasion reduces counterattacks, then it'd reduce that even further.

Evade comes first. So yes, shadow veil and haste DO reduce your chance of counter, thus reduce your overall damage.

But whether you should use them (or add them to your auto-cast slots) depends on your survivability. After all, it is better to stay alive than deal more damage but die halfway.

Ans since you are Lv.360, I assume your gear should be good enough to survive without shadow veil and haste.

Since I am Lv360, with full set of soul fused Shade Legendary,
I turned on my Haste and Shadowveil.
And I was killed by 3 normal monster in 1 round, I mean Full HP.

Since high burden removes evasion and attack speed buffs, does that mean when using heavy armor, the Haste and Shadow Veil spells are completely useless?