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Jun 6 2022, 16:09
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bensalenkkari
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 6 2022, 15:34)  ehmmm... I agree with most of what you say , but this bit about parry is not quite correct? Parry is the same for rapier and shordsword: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Weaponssee? Oh dang, I've always thought rapiers had higher parry. Learned something again. Maybe I've looked at a nimble rapier years ago and considered that to be the baseline? Anyway, slaughter all the way for 1h, so possible nimble on rapier doesn't mean anything.
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Jun 6 2022, 16:28
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BA-ZA-HEI
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QUOTE(psionicdecimator @ Jun 6 2022, 22:00)  few questions,
1. How do i know that my equipment need to be repaired? for now if it's reaching ~60% i just swap out to random stuff that i got from drop 2. does lower % durability on those items will lead to less value / or less material drop if i were to salvage them? 3. Unfortunately i started as mage/staff, how do i shift / change to melee classes? from what i read in wiki it's said i should use Cloned Persona. and from what i get is that i will have my own separated character with separated skill tree and separated stats point, what i want to ask is: if the cloned persona get leveled up. will my main persona also get level up too? or do i have to level them separately?
1. you will see !! before stamina  2. No 3. Never try "Cloned Persona", but I think you should create "blank persona" since you are trying to play different style. Different Persona share same level and proficiency, so you don't need to level them separately. Other information see: Persona - EHWikiThis post has been edited by BA-ZA-HEI: Jun 6 2022, 16:30
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Jun 6 2022, 17:02
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psionicdecimator
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 6 2022, 23:28)  1. you will see !! before stamina  Never seen this, I guess mine mostly still safe QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 6 2022, 23:28)  2. No 3. Never try "Cloned Persona", but I think you should create "blank persona" since you are trying to play different style. Different Persona share same level and proficiency, so you don't need to level them separately. Other information see: Persona - EHWikiAlright will try just that, good to know i don't have to level separately
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Jun 7 2022, 07:52
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AnonDarkMage7
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So playing isekai as a meelee and suddenly my mana drops to 0, took me a little too long to realize that monsturbation script is spamming dark magic (use that for my actual character) instead of attacking now. Is there anyway to sperate the commands between isekai and persistant?
This post has been edited by abc12345678901: Jun 7 2022, 08:00
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Jun 7 2022, 08:12
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Noni
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 7 2022, 07:52)  So playing isekai as a meelee and suddenly my mana drops to 0, took me a little too long to realize that monsturbation script is spamming dark magic (use that for my actual character) instead of attacking now. Is there anyway to sperate the commands between isekai and persistant?
yes. Go into monsterbation settings, and select the isekai persona 1 settings. Edit as you please. Save and exit. Now, monsterbation will use that if you switch to isekai. Don't forget to use Monsterbation Linter, to prevent mistakes that stops the script. See the tools section of this forum This post has been edited by Noni: Jun 7 2022, 08:13
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Jun 7 2022, 08:41
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 7 2022, 02:12)  yes. Go into monsterbation settings, and select the isekai persona 1 settings. Edit as you please. Save and exit. Now, monsterbation will use that if you switch to isekai. Don't forget to use Monsterbation Linter, to prevent mistakes that stops the script. See the tools section of this forum
I keep trying but it won't change over, I think I'm too stupid to figure this out, thanks though.
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Jun 7 2022, 10:00
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Noni
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 7 2022, 08:41)  I keep trying but it won't change over, I think I'm too stupid to figure this out, thanks though.
that usually means you have an error in one of the settings. Keybinds and mouse actions are notorious for that. That's why you need to use the linter on every setting that you put in monsterbation. With an error, it will still run but it will behave strangely. Like, it won't change the to setting that you need. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=253425This post has been edited by Noni: Jun 7 2022, 10:11
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Jun 7 2022, 14:47
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guestbook
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QUOTE(guestbook @ May 31 2022, 21:27)  LIKE This  LIKE THIS 
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Jun 7 2022, 15:55
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Noni
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QUOTE(guestbook @ Jun 7 2022, 14:47)  LIKE THIS
okay I get it, you suffer from a bug. Nothing I can do about that. Try solving it yourself, or complain to someone who can actually do something about it, please.
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Jun 7 2022, 16:44
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BA-ZA-HEI
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Is that not Worth to self-IW the equipment? Usually we don't have the Dark Descent and that's making self-IW super expensive (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jun 7 2022, 17:02
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guestbook
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ Jun 7 2022, 22:44)  Is that not Worth to self-IW the equipment? Usually we don't have the Dark Descent and that's making self-IW super expensive (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Item world yourself? Soul bound items has x2 effect. For amnesia, you can buy some service from people who has. If you want something great ability, either you are very lucky or you have to pay.
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Jun 7 2022, 17:47
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azureice
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To get 1 isekai bonus to all Primary Attributes, should I reach Floor 30 or clear Floor 30? QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 17:25)  -- Clear Floor 30: +1 to all primary stats
EHWiki: QUOTE Reaching Floor 30 grants +1 QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 8 2022, 01:01)  you read old release notes. Try the newest one:
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Oh I see now. Thanks. This post has been edited by azureice: Jun 8 2022, 03:21
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Jun 7 2022, 18:04
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anon7631
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Do IW potencies matter much for armour? At first glance it seems like the HP and MP ones would be vastly more useful than elemental mitigation, but the actual increase from those isn't as high as it looks since it's +10% of base rather than +10% of the total, so I'm not sure. Are elemental attacks significant enough that a +20% resistance to a single element is more useful than an MP bonus equivalent to a single cast of Cure? I keep forgetting to read the Monsterbation damage summaries...
Also, since the percentages (both the HP/MP increases and the elemental mitigations) are apparently independent of gear stats, am I right in assuming that the most efficient approach is to IW the worst armour first, since it'll be fewer rounds for the same gain?
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Jun 7 2022, 19:01
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(azureice @ Jun 7 2022, 17:47)  To get 1 isekai bonus to all Primary Attributes, should I reach Floor 30 or clear Floor 30? QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 17:25)  -- Clear Floor 30: +1 to all primary stats
EHWiki: QUOTE Reaching Floor 30 grants +1 you read old release notes. Try the newest one: QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 21 2021, 11:17)  New Season Notes (2021 S2 -> 2022 S1)
- The stat bonus thresholds are now for reaching the floor rather than clearing it, since the readout makes it a bit confusing.
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Jun 8 2022, 06:33
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 7 2022, 02:12)  yes. Go into monsterbation settings, and select the isekai persona 1 settings. Edit as you please. Save and exit. Now, monsterbation will use that if you switch to isekai. Don't forget to use Monsterbation Linter, to prevent mistakes that stops the script. See the tools section of this forum
QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 7 2022, 04:00)  that usually means you have an error in one of the settings. Keybinds and mouse actions are notorious for that. That's why you need to use the linter on every setting that you put in monsterbation. With an error, it will still run but it will behave strangely. Like, it won't change the to setting that you need. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=253425I tried using Linter on the code I have altered with my keybinds but couldn't really find the issue unless it's changing nearly every "," to a ";" ? I tried copy pasting a fresh version of the monsturbation code from the script thread but I still get the same exact issue, I go to Monsterbation settings, I try selecting persona 1 nder isekai on the drop box at the bottom, everything goes faded out, I can make changes and save them, but they save to persisant persona 1 instead and switching to persistant and isekai will both get me the new settings. Are you sure it's an issue with the code and not human error? Seems really strange for the in game settings to automatically not work with the unaltered code.
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Jun 8 2022, 07:22
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CatEatsFishEatsCat
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Hi experts, I have been reading about transferring to mage recently and I have two questions:
1. If I only wish to farm SG arenas on the highest difficulty, how much credits do I need? ~10m, if fire/cold mage? Or will a beginner dark mage have better performance under same budget, as SGs have no dark mitigation? 2. Is cotton of curseweaver useful, because more deprecating prof means higher chance of landing imperli?
This post has been edited by CatEatsFishEatsCat: Jun 8 2022, 07:29
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Jun 8 2022, 07:31
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Noni
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 8 2022, 06:33)  I tried using Linter on the code I have altered with my keybinds but couldn't really find the issue unless it's changing nearly every "," to a ";" ? I tried copy pasting a fresh version of the monsturbation code from the script thread but I still get the same exact issue, I go to Monsterbation settings, I try selecting persona 1 nder isekai on the drop box at the bottom, everything goes faded out, I can make changes and save them, but they save to persisant persona 1 instead and switching to persistant and isekai will both get me the new settings. Are you sure it's an issue with the code and not human error? Seems really strange for the in game settings to automatically not work with the unaltered code.
that indicates that the unaltered code is wrong. You could delete the local storage, download a fresh version, and start again, now using linter from the start. Just downloading a fresh version does nothing, because it will use the existing local storage. At least you now know that the error is in the local storage settings. QUOTE(CatEatsFishEatsCat @ Jun 8 2022, 07:22)  Hi experts, I have been reading about transferring to mage recently and I have two questions:
1. If I only wish to farm SG arenas on the highest difficulty, how much credits do I need? ~10m, if fire/cold mage? 2. Is cotton of curseweaver useful, because more deprecating prof means higher chance of landing imperli?
At your level, I think 1h or DW will still outperform cheap mage against SG on highest diff. Better to wait until you are level 310 at least, so you can use imperil properly. Without that, fire/cold mage sucks. Well, it's playable, but not as comfortable as other styles. But okay, if you must: 1. To become significantly faster than melee against SG, I'd suggest a bit more credits. But you need to start somewhere. 10m is enough to get going. 2. No, because your base elemental proficiency is still so low, it's better to use two good slots for prof cotton. And then, you only have 3 slots left for phases. You can't afford to sacrifice one for depr. You'd get too little damage. And that's the whole point of playing mage, to get damage. This post has been edited by Noni: Jun 8 2022, 07:32
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Jun 8 2022, 07:49
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OnceForAll
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jun 8 2022, 12:33)  I tried using Linter on the code I have altered with my keybinds but couldn't really find the issue unless it's changing nearly every "," to a ";" ? I tried copy pasting a fresh version of the monsturbation code from the script thread but I still get the same exact issue, I go to Monsterbation settings, I try selecting persona 1 nder isekai on the drop box at the bottom, everything goes faded out, I can make changes and save them, but they save to persisant persona 1 instead and switching to persistant and isekai will both get me the new settings. Are you sure it's an issue with the code and not human error? Seems really strange for the in game settings to automatically not work with the unaltered code. There is a Reset button in Monsterbation configuration UI. You can use that to clear the saved settings. QUOTE(CatEatsFishEatsCat @ Jun 8 2022, 13:22)  1. If I only wish to farm SG arenas on the highest difficulty, how much credits do I need? ~10m, if fire/cold mage? Or will a beginner dark mage have better performance under same budget, as SGs have no dark mitigation? 2. Is cotton of curseweaver useful, because more deprecating prof means higher chance of landing imperli? As Noni said, it is not a viable option to become a mage at your current level. ~10m should be enough to become a fire/cold mage. Although the dark/holy mage performs better than the elemental mage, it might require a bit more investment (dark mage equips are slightly more expensive than wind/elec mage equips, and are a bit more expensive than fire/cold mage equips). cotton of curseweaver is only useful when you become an end-game mage: You can deal so much damage, that you can swap one of your phases to cotton. my suggestions would be unless you have reached Lv.500, enabled DD9 hath perk, and reached floor 100 in the last season's isekai tower, and only then you could use cotton of curseweaver.
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Jun 8 2022, 08:35
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Jun 8 2022, 01:49)  There is a Reset button in Monsterbation configuration UI. You can use that to clear the saved settings.
Tried that, it does nothing, not even change my current settings. QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 8 2022, 01:31)  that indicates that the unaltered code is wrong. You could delete the local storage, download a fresh version, and start again, now using linter from the start. Just downloading a fresh version does nothing, because it will use the existing local storage. At least you now know that the error is in the local storage settings.
How do i delete the local storage settings? also putting a line of code in linter says "," are incorrect and need to be changed to ";" which then states that that line of code is correct, however doing so breaks the script when actually playing is that related to the local storage thing?
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Jun 8 2022, 08:59
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(anon7631 @ Jun 7 2022, 11:04)  Do IW potencies matter much for armour? At first glance it seems like the HP and MP ones would be vastly more useful than elemental mitigation, but the actual increase from those isn't as high as it looks since it's +10% of base rather than +10% of the total, so I'm not sure. Are elemental attacks significant enough that a +20% resistance to a single element is more useful than an MP bonus equivalent to a single cast of Cure? I keep forgetting to read the Monsterbation damage summaries...
Also, since the percentages (both the HP/MP increases and the elemental mitigations) are apparently independent of gear stats, am I right in assuming that the most efficient approach is to IW the worst armour first, since it'll be fewer rounds for the same gain?
Yes and no. For Juggernaut the level of importance increases depending on your level, type of gear and style. Having a greater tank means your Full Cures are more powerful and a larger proportion of damage is taken by your HP bar instead of the SP one once it gets to powerful hits that proc Spirit Shield so as you can guess cloth armor and as such mages benefit more from getting Jug levels compared to say heavy armor users who may not prioritize it as much. Capacitor is in my opinion the worst of the bunch since Draughts and Potions work on a percentage basis of the base MP bar and you mostly benefit from Elixir usage. As Melee even with Imperil you should very rarely, if ever, need to resort to Elixirs as pots and draughts should be enough to cover for the imperil+cure usage most of the time. And even as mage resorting to Elixirs isn't ideal and the whole point of the proficiency dance and damage increase etc. is to actually decrease the impact on your MP bar and consumables and increase your survival, comfort and profit so I would recommend going for it only if money isn't an issue, you're going for a record or want big e-penis with your massive MP tank. The elemental mitigation stuff is a bit unclear as far as I can tell. If there's a noticeable effect it should be mostly amongst heavy armor users who are the most vulnerable to magic attacks due to low resist. Mages are fast and rely on being fast to survive so they shouldn't be getting hit by many magic attacks and spirit attacks as the monsters should ideally be dead long before they get to use them. And Light armor users have high MMit and Resist too so despite being slower and having to 'tank' more magic attacks they aren't really a threat that requires you to go out of the way to get specific elemental mitigations on your armor. Oh and one more thing, Undeads and Daimons are the only ones who get Dark magic attacks but those are gated behind the third skill of the monsters which uses SP, and fast enough attackers get to kill these before they even get to charge their Dark attacks so you can actually get hit with 0 dark damage at all thus if there was one elemental mit of low worth it would be Darkproof. In conclusion it's recommended to get some IW on your armors after your weapon is done, as every little bit helps, but not to an extent that you should go crazy chasing specific 5+5 combinations for all your gear. But Juggernaut 5 is nice to have for sure. As for the last part yeah, if you're doing the IW yourself start with the easiest one as it should end up being the same.
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