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Does OFC damage has anything to do with weapon&armor damage?

If not, I’m thinking about sticking to my junk plate armors and use SGs to recharge my OFC in arenas…

TL, DR: Yes.

The long answer: In the end, the OFC is still an attack skill. And all attack skills' damage follows the formula:

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Base Skill Damage = Physical_Attack_Base_Damage * Skill_Multiplier * Overcharge %?* 0.02

The multiplier for the OFC is about 5, and you need at least 200 overcharges to use the OFC, so:

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OFC Skill Damage >= Physical_Attack_Base_Damage * 5 * 200 * 0.02

Where Physical_Attack_Base_Damage is based on your stat, your weapon, and your armor.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills

This post has been edited by OnceForAll: May 22 2022, 13:36

Does OFC damage has anything to do with weapon&armor damage?

If not, I’m thinking about sticking to my junk plate armors and use SGs to recharge my OFC in arenas…

25000 HATH also helps OFC a lot.

That's for 1H. For DW with well manage overcharge and skills you don't need to stand with too many enemies in arena, at least don't need to stand for too long. The same to mage. For the playstyle which rely on fast clear speed to surive, spend more time to clear means more dangurous. Well as you get stronger it will become less matter, and for 1H the only matter is if you are tanky enough

With only full set of Legendary.
Spirit + Frenzied Blow always kill no one.
Even additionally Spirit + FRD. Not much normal monster dies.
You have to play your next 5-10 move strategically. You still face half of enemy.
Not to say overcharge management can never be perfect for hundreds of rounds and thousands of turns.

This post has been edited by guestbook: May 22 2022, 14:40

That's for 1H. For DW with well manage overcharge and skills you don't need to stand with too many enemies in arena, at least don't need to stand for too long.

But we were talking about RE that can be harder than arena, right? You don't exactly have any overcharge when you start. Otherwise 1h can also do Fus Ro Dah to kill stuff before it ever acts. Or just cannon.

How's high level player deal with the trophy? Didn't see they sell it and the price just go lower and lower these days.🙄

hopefully in a month, or maybe a month and a couple of weeks, we'll have HVMarket integrated in HV. That will make the selling of trophies much easier. but in the end it's supply and demand. I suspect a lot of fossers are just gathering funds to unpgrade all of their gear to peerless. Then FOS will be less usefull.

It's still a very good way to get peerless, FOS. So I think the prices will stabilize

With only full set of Legendary.
Spirit + Frenzied Blow always kill no one.
Even additionally Spirit + FRD. Not much normal monster dies.
You have to play your next 5-10 move strategically. You still face half of enemy.
Not to say overcharge management can never be perfect for hundreds of rounds and thousands of turns.

that's your problem I think. I play DW until lv.400 and I know how FB work, I don't say it can kill every one too, but at least it does improve surivability, even in tower

But we were talking about RE that can be harder than arena, right? You don't exactly have any overcharge when you start. Otherwise 1h can also do Fus Ro Dah to kill stuff before it ever acts. Or just cannon.

that's what the problem is, you don't have OC when you start, so you need to spend more time in RE than in the arena round which you have OC, and spend more time means more dangurous for DW. for mage, even cast one more buff can be dangurous. it's no matter for 1H for sure.

hopefully in a month, or maybe a month and a couple of weeks, we'll have HVMarket integrated in HV. That will make the selling of trophies much easier. but in the end it's supply and demand. I suspect a lot of fossers are just gathering funds to unpgrade all of their gear to peerless. Then FOS will be less usefull.

It's still a very good way to get peerless, FOS. So I think the prices will stabilize

Not if someone had a big money
and perform
thousands of micro-transaction like in HATH market.

hopefully in a month, or maybe a month and a couple of weeks, we'll have HVMarket integrated in HV. That will make the selling of trophies much easier. but in the end it's supply and demand. I suspect a lot of fossers are just gathering funds to unpgrade all of their gear to peerless. Then FOS will be less usefull.

It's still a very good way to get peerless, FOS. So I think the prices will stabilize

Tenb should change/buff FoS again after the equip update.

hopefully in a month, or maybe a month and a couple of weeks, we'll have HVMarket integrated in HV. That will make the selling of trophies much easier. but in the end it's supply and demand. I suspect a lot of fossers are just gathering funds to unpgrade all of their gear to peerless. Then FOS will be less usefull.

It's still a very good way to get peerless, FOS. So I think the prices will stabilize

The HVMarket is already gone when I know what it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I think this is the worst time for new player to come in. (Even worst than two months ago). Upgrade material is much expensive while Trophies got lower and lower. Hope it will get better after HVMarket come back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Tenb should change/buff FoS again after the equip update.

Trophies are nearly useless without FoS. Hope it will be improved a bit for newcomer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yeah I’m the unlucky newcomer that started playing this April… and missed the easter event because I did not know it! Cry

Btw speaking of trophies, if I were to prepare a mage build that farm SG arenas ONLY, what will be the best choice with lowest budget(say <10m, upgrade inclusive), fire or dark? Will it have better clear time than 1H?

This post has been edited by mushroomsc: May 22 2022, 18:52

The HVMarket is already gone when I know what it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I think this is the worst time for new player to come in. (Even worst than two months ago). Upgrade material is much expensive while Trophies got lower and lower. Hope it will get better after HVMarket come back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

this is not true, sorry. Trophies used to be way, way cheaper, for years and years. And melee upgrade materials have become cheaper as wel, roughly half what we used to pay for them. Only mage is expensive. But it always has been. Okay phazons went from 250k to 350k. But mediocre chared phase gear went from being expensive to almost worth nothing. Upgrade materails: cheaper. Trophies: still a lot more expensive than they used to be.

Trophies are nearly useless without FoS. Hope it will be improved a bit for newcomer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Newcomers could also benefit a lot from a system where they have access to cheap low level gears. Less dependent on income from trophies. Self-sufficient by upgrading their own drops. And income from selling legendary cores. It won't be just the trophies that will change, I know the upgrades are done with newcomers in mind.

Niten Ichiryu is viable ? I'm in need guidance...just start playing this 5 days ago.

Yeah I’m the unlucky newcomer that started playing this April… and missed the easter event because I did not know it! Cry

Btw speaking of trophies, if I were to prepare a mage build that farm SG arenas ONLY, what will be the best choice with lowest budget(say <10m, upgrade inclusive), fire or dark? Will it have better clear time than 1H?

any mage build will do. Fire is way way cheaper to get going than dark, I wouldn't advice dark for cheap mage. And any mage build will have better clear time than 1h. You need to have level 310 to get the full benefit of imperil, though. Before that, it's not faster than 1h.

You could do fire, cold (that's what I did), wind or elec, any of those are fine. Don't do holy, it's bad unless you have a large budget. As for dark, in the end it will outperform the elemental mages against SG, but only after spending way, way more than 10m. Also worse imperil, more proficiency needed, lower cast speed... nope, element should be better for a long time.

Niten Ichiryu is viable ? I'm in need guidance...just start playing this 5 days ago.

at your level, any style is playable. when you get a bit higher level, and want to play higher difficulty, Niten will not be as easy / fast as 1h heavy. Dual Wield is also a good style, fun to play. If you have great gear, later on, Niten Ichiryu will perform well in normal arena's. But not against schoolgirl arena's, and there are a lot of those when you are level 500.

For now, just use whatever you have, try different styles. And then switch to 1h heavy (or DW, which is a bit worse but not bad) if you want higher difficulty - which means also better drops and more income.

that's your problem I think. I play DW until lv.400 and I know how FB work, I don't say it can kill every one too, but at least it does improve surivability, even in tower
that's what the problem is, you don't have OC when you start, so you need to spend more time in RE than in the arena round which you have OC, and spend more time means more dangurous for DW. for mage, even cast one more buff can be dangurous. it's no matter for 1H for sure.

Just like my problem won't be encountered by any other or someone who is new to DW.

What considered normal arenas and what is schoolgirl arena ?

For credits and drops arenas are the best method ?

This post has been edited by ZAZAAZ: May 22 2022, 21:11

What considered normal arenas and what is schoolgirl arena ?

For credits and drops arenas are the best method ?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Arena#Arena_Challenges -> last 5 ar schoolgirl arenas. Not for you, for a while. You need lv250 for the first one

Random Encounters + arena's yes. Definitely.

this is not true, sorry. Trophies used to be way, way cheaper, for years and years. And melee upgrade materials have become cheaper as wel, roughly half what we used to pay for them. Only mage is expensive. But it always has been. Okay phazons went from 250k to 350k. But mediocre chared phase gear went from being expensive to almost worth nothing. Upgrade materails: cheaper. Trophies: still a lot more expensive than they used to be.
Newcomers could also benefit a lot from a system where they have access to cheap low level gears. Less dependent on income from trophies. Self-sufficient by upgrading their own drops. And income from selling legendary cores. It won't be just the trophies that will change, I know the upgrades are done with newcomers in mind.

Used to think of being exploited, and that's much worse feeling than the actual lost. Feel better to know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Used to think of being exploited, and that's much worse feeling than the actual lost. Feel better to know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

There's plenty of old data, if you just look for it in the forums. Like old Super's & Kedama's auctions, and initial post of long-running WTS/WTB.

Just to give you an example, here is the link to Super's auction #116.

In this specific one there where no trophies, but you can see for instance that Binding of Slaughter where 100k, Binding of the Ox/Raccoon around 10k, DMM 8k, Shade Fragment 6k etc. etc.

On the other end, CP where 200k, Binding of Protection 36k ...

... and so forth ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

There's plenty of old data, if you just look for it in the forums. Like old Super's & Kedama's auctions, and initial post of long-running WTS/WTB.

Just to give you an example, here is the link to Super's auction #116.

In this specific one there where no trophies, but you can see for instance that Binding of Slaughter where 100k, Binding of the Ox/Raccoon around 10k, DMM 8k, Shade Fragment 6k etc. etc.

On the other end, CP where 200k, Binding of Protection 36k ...

... and so forth ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Seem like there isn't much high level player on that time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Something odd equipment like Platinum-trimmed. And... I see your name on it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have 1.5k Hath at the moment. Which perks should I spend them on as a newbie? I already bought Vigorous Vitality, Effluent Ether, and Innate Arcana II.