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post May 15 2022, 15:56
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QUOTE(njj4300 @ May 15 2022, 16:03) *

When is a good time to start doing item world stuff?


maybe i should be more specific lol

Exquisite Tempestuous Axe of Slaughter
Exquisite Kite Shield of Protection
Superior Amber Plate Helmet of Warding
Average Plate Cuirass
Average Plate Gauntlets of Dampening
Superior Plate Greaves of Dampening
Average Plate Sabatons of Protection

here's what ive got on currently @ level 143 and ive also got:
Superior Rapier of Slaughter

so mostly just asking where should I go from here (and whether or not Item World is helpful here or to wait for other equipment)
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post May 15 2022, 16:29
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QUOTE(njj4300 @ May 15 2022, 21:56) *

maybe i should be more specific lol

Exquisite Tempestuous Axe of Slaughter
Exquisite Kite Shield of Protection
Superior Amber Plate Helmet of Warding
Average Plate Cuirass
Average Plate Gauntlets of Dampening
Superior Plate Greaves of Dampening
Average Plate Sabatons of Protection

here's what ive got on currently @ level 143 and ive also got:
Superior Rapier of Slaughter

so mostly just asking where should I go from here (and whether or not Item World is helpful here or to wait for other equipment)

In my opinion,
Go window shopping more. You may find legendary at around 20K.
Or put down 50K for luck to auction a Legendary low level 1H at WTS auction.

It is worth Item worlding if you find a good legendary.
It do not need to be excellent stat. But a legendary "something" of slaughter is good for IW them.


You better do a lot of random encounter which give you enough soul fragment for soul fusing.
DO AS HARD AS YOU CAN. (probably hell or nintendo, try it yourself in 10 round arena)
Drink everything that helps you.
Use spell.
If you could clear random encounter, you can do it with your 10 round arena.
Play safe and more strategy. Play 15 min in 10 round PFDOR/IWTBH difficulty rather than 15 min in clearing normal arena.

Your first few thousand soul should have wasted on your Legendary equipment.
Soul fusing will let you equip 100LV above you and the equipment will evolve with you. But you can never trade out with others again.

Soul fusing will double your result in item world.

At your level, you will obsolete your equipment very fast.
So, I do not suggest to soul fuse or invest any into those equipment.
I see you are playing 1H heavy.

If you have too much time and energy to waste. Wait for a Magnificent item and item world them.
First priority > Find a Legendary weapon and soul fusing and full item world it.Upgrade everything to LV5.
Try higher difficulty as you could.
This will help you a lot in finding other Legendary.

Second priority Find a Legendary Power Armor. (But leave at least 500 soul for weapon. Probably 2000)
Item world with higher difficulty gains a lot more but a lot more risky.


Other than shopping, random encounter is your best way to find your Legendary.
Try to kill and use all restore potion and as hard as you can .
You can encounter 24 random encounter everyday (30Min cooldown). They are extremely good reward.

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post May 15 2022, 17:16
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QUOTE(njj4300 @ May 15 2022, 15:56) *

maybe i should be more specific lol

Exquisite Tempestuous Axe of Slaughter
Exquisite Kite Shield of Protection
Superior Amber Plate Helmet of Warding
Average Plate Cuirass
Average Plate Gauntlets of Dampening
Superior Plate Greaves of Dampening
Average Plate Sabatons of Protection

here's what ive got on currently @ level 143 and ive also got:
Superior Rapier of Slaughter

so mostly just asking where should I go from here (and whether or not Item World is helpful here or to wait for other equipment)


Item world scales with rarity. If you aren't strong yet, IW a superior or exquisite is a lot more reasonable than doing so for something higher quality, where you'd almost certainly need someone else to do it for you.

Weapon IW is always worth. The others are optional, and probably better done when you have better gear.
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post May 15 2022, 17:30
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QUOTE(guestbook @ May 15 2022, 22:29) *

In my opinion,
Go window shopping more. You may find legendary at around 20K.
Or put down 50K for luck to auction a Legendary low level 1H at WTS auction.

It is worth Item worlding if you find a good legendary.
It do not need to be excellent stat. But a legendary "something" of slaughter is good for IW them.
You better do a lot of random encounter which give you enough soul fragment for soul fusing.
DO AS HARD AS YOU CAN. (probably hell or nintendo, try it yourself in 10 round arena)
Drink everything that helps you.
Use spell.
If you could clear random encounter, you can do it with your 10 round arena.
Play safe and more strategy. Play 15 min in 10 round PFDOR/IWTBH difficulty rather than 15 min in clearing normal arena.

Your first few thousand soul should have wasted on your Legendary equipment.
Soul fusing will let you equip 100LV above you and the equipment will evolve with you. But you can never trade out with others again.

Soul fusing will double your result in item world.

At your level, you will obsolete your equipment very fast.
So, I do not suggest to soul fuse or invest any into those equipment.
I see you are playing 1H heavy.

If you have too much time and energy to waste. Wait for a Magnificent item and item world them.
First priority > Find a Legendary weapon and soul fusing and full item world it.Upgrade everything to LV5.
Try higher difficulty as you could.
This will help you a lot in finding other Legendary.

Second priority Find a Legendary Power Armor. (But leave at least 500 soul for weapon. Probably 2000)
Item world with higher difficulty gains a lot more but a lot more risky.
Other than shopping, random encounter is your best way to find your Legendary.
Try to kill and use all restore potion and as hard as you can .
You can encounter 24 random encounter everyday (30Min cooldown). They are extremely good reward.


I only recently started doing random encounters (on hell difficulty because nintendo is a little too tightrope) because I found out from this thread LOL

do legendary weapons really go for that cheap? ive admittedly only trawled the WTS forums for a bit but most of the equips of that quality are around level 500

thanks for the advice anyway (: maybe ill just keep doing random encounters and praying i get something decent, or swap to nintendo difficulty
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post May 15 2022, 18:11
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QUOTE(njj4300 @ May 15 2022, 23:30) *

I only recently started doing random encounters (on hell difficulty because nintendo is a little too tightrope) because I found out from this thread LOL

do legendary weapons really go for that cheap? ive admittedly only trawled the WTS forums for a bit but most of the equips of that quality are around level 500

thanks for the advice anyway (: maybe ill just keep doing random encounters and praying i get something decent, or swap to nintendo difficulty

Some people even sell legendary in bazaar (or salvaging legendary will appear in bazaar).
System will sometimes generate some. and a lot of magnificent.

Try harder to shop.
500LV Legendary always auction at 50 to 80K.

You will need some luck to find low level item from user sales, but they will.
Supplies are better at 300ish level. So you can use some at 200 level.
Before that buy a Mag weapon to use for 10-20 levels.

Also, Etereal weapon increase you viable attack from 40% to 100% as they do not count in defense formula


Also, also
Have you tried using some spells? Drink every draugh? Use every potion?
Use everything for higher random encounter. Draugth only cost 1 credit. A better item worth a lot.
Heartseekers for melee are heavy cost, but worthy.
Regen also.
Spark of life helps you 1 round with sudden death.
Protection is another option helping you through higher difficulty.
Spirit Shield + Hath(auto cast) is great but financially costly.(First one is 4200x50 =210K)

Silence is unbelievably good. But it requires higher level to silence 3 together. (Lets leave it until PFDOR)




also also also,
There is a third way.
Buy 21 figure.
Go fully defense. and gain overcharge slowly, like stunning everyone.
At 210 overcharge, Spirit with Canon every freaking one. I believe no normal monster could live below level 300 even in PFDOR.

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post May 15 2022, 18:23
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QUOTE(任凭三千落花 @ May 15 2022, 15:35) *

a little question, I'm a player who only plays ar,
it seems that cr does not help ar players much,
so how should I choose between redwood and willow?

a redwood without Pen5 like this Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Surtr
or use this willow i bought yesterday Legendary Fiery Willow Staff of Destruction

the redwood has so much more magic damage (MDB) and elemental damage (EDB), for arena's the redwood should be far superior
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and iw it without Pen?
Or is it better to forge it into p5?

Any staff should be forge with pen5. It's just by far the best potency. Others don't even come close. Read the wiki if you want to know why.

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And what is the best option for ar players?
Archmage? Spellweaver?or even Economizer?

Penetrator + spellweaver is best. Economizer sucks. Archmage can work if you're really really strong and only play arena's. But for almost all players, pen5spel4 is by far the best.
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in additon, What is the priority for unlocking these rings Hath Perks‘ rewards below ?
Effluent Ether Eminent Elementalist Evil Enchantress Force of Nature Innate Arcana IV Dæmon Duality I
Most of these things are at the same price level,they are all so expensive that I can only open them one by one,so which one is better to drive first?

Looking forward to your reply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

1. Eminent Elementalist
2. Deamon Duality I
3. Innate Arcana IV
4. Effluent Ether
5. evil enchantress
and only if you have hath to spare: Forces of Nature. But I'd prefer a couple of DD levels first.
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post May 15 2022, 19:07
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I’m thinking about switching to mage after lv300+, but I’m having difficulty in finding a complete beginner’s guide to mage, the info I found is quite fragmented.

Could someone provide me some links so that I can read up? Now I know nothing about mage except the hentaiverse wiki advice page…
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post May 15 2022, 19:26
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QUOTE(mushroomsc @ May 15 2022, 19:07) *

I’m thinking about switching to mage after lv300+, but I’m having difficulty in finding a complete beginner’s guide to mage, the info I found is quite fragmented.

Could someone provide me some links so that I can read up? Now I know nothing about mage except the hentaiverse wiki advice page…


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=246193

That's a start.
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post May 16 2022, 03:37
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For upgrading my equipment, I've seen some players talk about upgrading only the damage dealing stats of the weapons and armors. Is there any incentive to upgrading the other stats for one's equipment?

Especially as I am a 1-h Power armor user, I've been slowly spreading out my upgrades rather than dumping everything on straight up damage. (Though this is mostly due to lack of Bindings of Slaughter)
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post May 16 2022, 04:03
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Possibly a dumb question, but

I read the advice on the wiki re: stats for a 1H heavy build, then I looked at the formulas to see what AGI actually does. If I'm understanding it correctly, it
  • adds physical mitigation, but not as much as END
  • adds evasion, which 1H doesn't want
  • adds attack speed, but only if it's over current level, and with diminishing returns at high level

So unless AGI actually determines a base action speed and the wiki forgot to mention it, it almost sounds like 1H doesn't need AGI at all, and that EXP is better off pumped into STR/DEX/END. What am I missing?
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post May 16 2022, 04:12
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Because 1 point of end will give less pmit than 100 points of agi, which will eventually be the case as cost of upgrading pabs increases for each point invested. Generally you want a high burden to counter evade and just put points in agi until it starts affecting your attack speed (you don't really want the attack speed)
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post May 16 2022, 07:05
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QUOTE(Noni @ May 16 2022, 00:23) *

the redwood has so much more magic damage (MDB) and elemental damage (EDB), for arena's the redwood should be far superior

Any staff should be forge with pen5. It's just by far the best potency. Others don't even come close. Read the wiki if you want to know why.
Penetrator + spellweaver is best. Economizer sucks. Archmage can work if you're really really strong and only play arena's. But for almost all players, pen5spel4 is by far the best.

1. Eminent Elementalist
2. Deamon Duality I
3. Innate Arcana IV
4. Effluent Ether
5. evil enchantress
and only if you have hath to spare: Forces of Nature. But I'd prefer a couple of DD levels first.


Thank you for your reply so that I have a general plan

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post May 16 2022, 07:11
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ May 16 2022, 03:37) *

For upgrading my equipment, I've seen some players talk about upgrading only the damage dealing stats of the weapons and armors. Is there any incentive to upgrading the other stats for one's equipment?

Especially as I am a 1-h Power armor user, I've been slowly spreading out my upgrades rather than dumping everything on straight up damage. (Though this is mostly due to lack of Bindings of Slaughter)

you should definitely forge:
STR DEX END
and if you want to do PFFEST or if you have to cure a lot in IW:
PMIT and MMIT, where P is the most important.
rest is nice to have. (almost) everything helps a bit, so in the end you'll forge the lot. except 1h accuracy, when you have 200% you won't have any benefit of more. And elemental damage on a weapon. Those are useless.
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post May 16 2022, 09:11
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ May 16 2022, 03:37) *

For upgrading my equipment, I've seen some players talk about upgrading only the damage dealing stats of the weapons and armors. Is there any incentive to upgrading the other stats for one's equipment?

Especially as I am a 1-h Power armor user, I've been slowly spreading out my upgrades rather than dumping everything on straight up damage. (Though this is mostly due to lack of Bindings of Slaughter)


That is more or less okay. Upgrades have diminishing value anyways. ADB has priority, with the second most worthwhile upgrade probably being DEX. (parry, crit-chance, minor damage)

For the heck of it, here is what I use as an example.

Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Amber Force Shield of Protection
Legendary Jade Power Helmet of Slaughter
Legendary Cobalt Power Armor of Slaughter
Legendary Jade Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Zircon Power Boots of Slaughter

I have no complaints over performance, though I don't wanna clear Pfest with this or whatever. It can do everything, including pfudor IW, pretty well. As you can see, it's all over the place in every way. Bonus of 1h. You don't REALLY have to care that much.
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post May 16 2022, 09:43
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QUOTE(killi890 @ May 16 2022, 15:11) *

That is more or less okay. Upgrades have diminishing value anyways. ADB has priority, with the second most worthwhile upgrade probably being DEX. (parry, crit-chance, minor damage)

For the heck of it, here is what I use as an example.

Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Amber Force Shield of Protection
Legendary Jade Power Helmet of Slaughter
Legendary Cobalt Power Armor of Slaughter
Legendary Jade Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Zircon Power Boots of Slaughter

I have no complaints over performance, though I don't wanna clear Pfest with this or whatever. It can do everything, including pfudor IW, pretty well. As you can see, it's all over the place in every way. Bonus of 1h. You don't REALLY have to care that much.


How did you get tons of Soul Fragment for soulfuse? It require 1400 per armor, and it seem kind of wasting to buy from system shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 16 2022, 10:48
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ May 16 2022, 07:43) *

How did you get tons of Soul Fragment for soulfuse? It require 1400 per armor, and it seem kind of wasting to buy from system shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Just do lots of random encounters and they quickly accumulate. The Soul Catcher hath perk also helps.

If you do every RE, you should get about 60 Soul Fragments per day. That's about 3 weeks for 1400 of them.
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post May 16 2022, 11:03
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ May 16 2022, 16:48) *

Just do lots of random encounters and they quickly accumulate. The Soul Catcher hath perk also helps.

If you do every RE, you should get about 60 Soul Fragments per day. That's about 3 weeks for 1400 of them.


1400 * 5 /60 = 117days, maybe I'll reach 500 before fully soulfuse(though the cost will lower when I level up) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 16 2022, 12:59
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How did you get tons of Soul Fragment for soulfuse? It require 1400 per armor, and it seem kind of wasting to buy from system shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

In this case, I've been slowly building up the equipment over more than 6 months. Several pieces are self dropped (so 500 cost), while I think 2 are bought. And those didn't cost 1400 either. I even have some older (soulfused) gear lying around, that I used before.

That said, relatively early on it CAN be worth buying fragments from the shop. The higher level you get, the less that's a thing though.
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QUOTE(killi890 @ May 16 2022, 18:59) *

In this case, I've been slowly building up the equipment over more than 6 months. Several pieces are self dropped (so 500 cost), while I think 2 are bought. And those didn't cost 1400 either. I even have some older (soulfused) gear lying around, that I used before.

That said, relatively early on it CAN be worth buying fragments from the shop. The higher level you get, the less that's a thing though.


I think I should buy Coupon Clipper first (1000 Hath, 10% discount for shop) if I decide to buy from shop due to its big amount of credits.

Only drop one mag. grade power armor with slaughter by my own self, which does not worth for upgrade. Seem like what I can only do is to be Patient (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 16 2022, 13:53
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QUOTE(BA-ZA-HEI @ May 16 2022, 13:39) *

I think I should buy Coupon Clipper first (1000 Hath, 10% discount for shop) if I decide to buy from shop due to its big amount of credits.


That requires purchases of over 40 million before you break even. It's for people who wanna throw away money, not for anyone actually trying to benefit.

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