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What!!? IWBTH is the highest!?

I was PFDORing the whole time.

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PFUDOR is the highest. Just not for Easter. So you would miss out on other drops on IWBTH - a little bit at least.

What!!? IWBTH is the highest!?

I was PFDORing the whole time.

That's not necessarily bad if you can do so comfortably. Pfudor is just as tanky as IWBTH, but hits harder and more often. (higher damage, higher speed, higher mp/sp bar filling speed, more likely to use specials) There are some minor defensive boons as well, but they aren't nearly as impactful.
If you play on it, you have a higher general equip drop quality among some minor boost in crystal gain and credits gain. Though, outside of random encounters (definitely do those on pfudor if you can do so even semi reliable), I've not seen a normal legendary drop on pfudor in like 2 weeks now. The chances are absurdly low, given how I play all arenas every day on pfudor, AND did quite a bit of IW and Pfest this easter week on top of it, with absolutely nothing to show.

But yeah, IWBTH is enough if it's about clear bonuses and if you are more comfortable that way. I do that in Isekai a lot myself.

This post has been edited by killi890: Apr 17 2022, 10:20

Hi- Ah. Which style is best and what armor pairing would go well with it. I got a cool!!! 1h weapon and I am thinking of swapping my 2h sword for it. But yeah, just the basics so I can link armor set with weapon style would rock

Hi- Ah. Which style is best and what armor pairing would go well with it. I got a cool!!! 1h weapon and I am thinking of swapping my 2h sword for it. But yeah, just the basics so I can link armor set with weapon style would rock

just the basics
1h goes well with heavy armor of Power type
1h needs a good shield - that helps so much. High Block% is the only stat that matters.
1h is easier to do at high difficulty than 2h

just the basics
1h goes well with heavy armor of Power type
1h needs a good shield - that helps so much. High Block% is the only stat that matters.
1h is easier to do at high difficulty than 2h

Mage is still the best with a lot of good equipment

Mage is still the best with a lot of good equipment

It isn't for most players, a.k.a. "normal" players.

Only when you go above l.310 (better > 350 really) and have PLENTY of credits, then it becomes better.

Reason (besides good equips.) is the forging :

1H-power can do pretty anything on Pfudor, with simple IW and without even upgrades on armor, and not-fully forged weapon/shield . And from L.250 or just above.

Mage needs A LOT of forging on everything (Phazors ! about 350k each) and near-perfect IW to do the same; its only advantage is that is much faster (only if you manage to reach that point).

Mage needs A LOT of forging on everything (Phazors ! about 350k each) and near-perfect IW to do the same; its only advantage is that is much faster (only if you manage to reach that point).

Yeah, sometimes people get a bit of an illusion of how mage works. You really need to put a lot into it. Even if you can definitely start mage with say 40 million credits, a 40 million credits 1h warrior is most likely faster and MUCH more comfortable to play. If prices would be even, mage would probably be faster, but alas they aren't.
1h is just very cheap to get into, where the biggest weakness is the steadily increasing tank of enemies (though everyone suffers from that offensively. The mage benefits from their own defensive growth as well though).

Should my suggestion for allowing multiple normal attacks with just one input (and as such the price of not being to react after each normal attack) ever come through, 1h would probably not be slower anymore. (and as such material prices would grow a LOT more even) Its speed is SOLELY limited by connection speed. Nothing else. But as long as that handicap exists, mage is going to be always faster, which is why its materials and gear are so overpriced.

This post has been edited by killi890: Apr 17 2022, 14:37

You really need to put a lot into it. Even if you can definitely start mage with say 40 million credits

a 40 million credits 1h warrior is most likely faster

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and MUCH more comfortable to play.

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You can start mage relatively cheap (I started with less than 5m iirc, and was considerably faster than my 1h I invested more into) - not that I'd particularly recommend that, since more forging/dd levels = more comfort. If you don't mind fire, and your goal is only really arenas and IW. For arenas, you don't even need to forge your armour outside of prof (requires 0 phazons), just your staff, and you'll be faster than melee after a few battles to get your prof up a bit (though obviously, more forging more speed, so still worth doing).

For fests, which would be a struggle without forging and decent gear (and potentially dd levels), 1h mage is an option, which you can do at forge 5 (possibly don't even need that) + 50 prof. With a nimble waki, you can survive fest quicker than melee, and roughly as comfortable as 1h.

Speaking of light armor build.

I wonder if full set shade of arcanist could outperform shade of shadowdancer.
It seemed that the attribute added is far more.

And a melee player is always a barrel build
Having extra attribute seemed to be beneficial.

Speaking of light armor build.

I wonder if full set shade of arcanist could outperform shade of shadowdancer.
It seemed that the attribute added is far more.

Nope. But a full set of shade shadow (with good stats) would be usually quite pricer then a similarly equipped (stat-wise) set of Arcanist ... and the difference wouldn't be so huge after all. So not an end-game set, but a useful temporary (especially if you just dropped it instead of buying).

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209070
How to download the HVtoolBox script? The attachment is empty. Am I not qualified to see it?
Finally, I get it from other players.

I just use it to shrine a set of Easter artifacts, but I can not see the logs with HVtoolBox. Does this logging functoin still work?

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209070
How to download the HVtoolBox script? The attachment is empty. Am I not qualified to see it?
Finally, I get it from other players.

I just use it to shrine a set of Easter artifacts, but I can not see the logs with HVtoolBox. Does this logging functoin still work?

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6063654

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You can start mage relatively cheap (I started with less than 5m iirc, and was considerably faster than my 1h I invested more into) - not that I'd particularly recommend that, since more forging/dd levels = more comfort. If you don't mind fire, and your goal is only really arenas and IW. For arenas, you don't even need to forge your armour outside of prof (requires 0 phazons), just your staff, and you'll be faster than melee after a few battles to get your prof up a bit (though obviously, more forging more speed, so still worth doing).

For fests, which would be a struggle without forging and decent gear (and potentially dd levels), 1h mage is an option, which you can do at forge 5 (possibly don't even need that) + 50 prof. With a nimble waki, you can survive fest quicker than melee, and roughly as comfortable as 1h.

just curious won't you getting hit when you Imperil-ing enemy? When you started with less than 5m, can you kill some enemy with first hit? Tried to play as mage yesterday, and felt like need to cure every round of battle and spent more time by "thinking the next step" while 1H is safe enough so don't need to stop and its save lots of time.

Besides, how to set Monsterbation for mage? Playing mage just like playing another game😵

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6063654

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At what level do difficulties above Nintendo become feasible? I just decided to try switching up to IWBTH for the lowest Arena challenge still on offer (Fresh Meat) and it was entirely impossible. The damage everything deals means health is irrelevant and Spark of Life is the only thing keeping my alive, but after three activations in the first two rounds of the Arena it was clear that even if I juggled enough Spirit and Mana potions to keep SoL working, I'd spend more over those 12 rounds than I'd make from the drops. The gap between IWBTH and Nintendo was shocking.

I have tried some Ring of Blood challenges on PFUDOR and been successful each time, but only a couple, because with Tokens of Blood being so incredibly rare I'm reluctant to spend them without being certain of victory.

At what level do difficulties above Nintendo become feasible? I just decided to try switching up to IWBTH for the lowest Arena challenge still on offer (Fresh Meat) and it was entirely impossible. The damage everything deals means health is irrelevant and Spark of Life is the only thing keeping my alive, but after three activations in the first two rounds of the Arena it was clear that even if I juggled enough Spirit and Mana potions to keep SoL working, I'd spend more over those 12 rounds than I'd make from the drops. The gap between IWBTH and Nintendo was shocking.

I have tried some Ring of Blood challenges on PFUDOR and been successful each time, but only a couple, because with Tokens of Blood being so incredibly rare I'm reluctant to spend them without being certain of victory.

last season in Isekai, I think I managed IWBTH above level 100 or so? But I did have some nice gears. Some players even do IWBTH or even PFUDOR from level 1. But those are madmen (you know who you are). And isekai has some perk activated, like IA5 and a lot of ability points available.

For persistent, it depends on the gear that you have + a bit of skill. If you have a half-decent shield, e.g. magnificent force shield, and forge the blok on that, PFUDOR becomes possible. For DW, getting enough parry and evade really helps. Make sure you have all abilities slotted and upgraded, make sure you use the PAB-upgrade-points.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209070
How to download the HVtoolBox script? The attachment is empty. Am I not qualified to see it?
Finally, I get it from other players.

I just use it to shrine a set of Easter artifacts, but I can not see the logs with HVtoolBox. Does this logging functoin still work?

Got a message and incase someone else do suffer the same problem so I reply in here too.
If you shrine the artifacts with old version HVtoolBox (before v1.0.13.1) you will see an error or nothing in the result, but they should have been successfully shrined, just check your inventery.
But if you shrine the trophies with old version HVtoolBox then they should fail to shrine.

last season in Isekai, I think I managed IWBTH above level 100 or so? But I did have some nice gears. Some players even do IWBTH or even PFUDOR from level 1. But those are madmen (you know who you are). And isekai has some perk activated, like IA5 and a lot of ability points available.

For persistent, it depends on the gear that you have + a bit of skill. If you have a half-decent shield, e.g. magnificent force shield, and forge the blok on that, PFUDOR becomes possible. For DW, getting enough parry and evade really helps. Make sure you have all abilities slotted and upgraded, make sure you use the PAB-upgrade-points.

I see, so I guess I'm behind. I figured my gear was fine (both weapons Exquisite and of Slaughter, armor either Exquisite or Magnificent except some recently-acquired Shade pieces that are only Superior). But either it's terrible or I'm just bad.

I feel like I'm really missing something when it comes to forging, since the materials are nonexistent. They virtually never drop in battle, salvaging usually just gives scrap, the item shop doesn't sell them, and monster gifts every three days are mostly scrap and the exceptions are nowhere near enough. So where is it all supposed to come from?

This post has been edited by anon7631: Apr 17 2022, 19:03

last season in Isekai, I think I managed IWBTH above level 100 or so? But I did have some nice gears. Some players even do IWBTH or even PFUDOR from level 1.

You can pfudor unarmed grindfest from level 1. Just not for very long. But you'll realize that pretty quickly.

just curious won't you getting hit when you Imperil-ing enemy? When you started with less than 5m, can you kill some enemy with first hit? Tried to play as mage yesterday, and felt like need to cure every round of battle and spent more time by "thinking the next step" while 1H is safe enough so don't need to stop and its save lots of time.

Besides, how to set Monsterbation for mage? Playing mage just like playing another game😵

The cast speed and avoidance helps a lot, it's usually not imperilling, but the spells after, that tend to cause the most incoming attacks. But yeah, mages cure a lot, that's what I mean by although it's possible, I'd not recommend doing it on that small a budget, since more forging and more dd levels, = more speed, comfort, and safety.

For monsterbation, you would set up a hover action to do the t3 > t2 > t1 spells for your element in that priority, else it's basically the same as any other style, imperil then hover. Difference is mostly you might use scrolls/exlixirs in IW/fest as mage.