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post Mar 1 2018, 10:17
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 09:01) *

just go flame if you go demonic and hallowed

I second that. No shield does really fit to dark and holy, so using fire is just fine. I use also fire with my holy rapier and use an ice infusion when i want to increase my damage.
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post Mar 1 2018, 11:10
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 1 2018, 07:31) *

I asked the same question once. B4F5 has a little higher average damage compared to B5F4

It also depends on your crit, I guess.
But I agree, both b4f5 and b5f4 are very solid iws

QUOTE(decondelite @ Mar 1 2018, 07:47) *

Let me correct that for you.
Fire Strike ---> Flame Spike Shield
Cold Strike ---> Flame Spike Shield
Elec Strike ---> Flame Spike Shield
Wind Strike ---> Flame Spike Shield

For 1h only, and only to reduce the average incoming damage. If you have a different style and/or want to boost your damage, i'd suggest the usual rotation, unless new datas are provided.
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post Mar 1 2018, 11:47
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 1 2018, 16:17) *

I second that. No shield does really fit to dark and holy, so using fire is just fine. I use also fire with my holy rapier and use an ice infusion when i want to increase my damage.

I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?
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post Mar 1 2018, 12:08
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 15:01) *

just go flame if you go demonic and hallowed



QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 1 2018, 15:17) *

I second that. No shield does really fit to dark and holy, so using fire is just fine. I use also fire with my holy rapier and use an ice infusion when i want to increase my damage.


So that's why so many players want ice infuse..

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I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?


I think +ice infuse is better than holy/dark infuse because you can maximize the damage with the flame spike...
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post Mar 1 2018, 12:12
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 14:29) *

tiny difference, but B4F5 is a little bit better I think

If you only count normal attacks yes.
But butcher is a bit better because you can't crit with 1h counter attack.
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post Mar 1 2018, 12:43
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 13:29) *

tiny difference, but B4F5 is a little bit better I think


I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

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post Mar 1 2018, 12:59
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Mar 1 2018, 18:43) *

I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

what do you mean void strike and element strike can't be critical? They are just subtypes of physical attack I suppose.
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post Mar 1 2018, 13:10
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 1 2018, 12:08) *

I think +ice infuse is better than holy/dark infuse because you can maximize the damage with the flame spike...

Wait, flame spikes only decrease ele mitigation by 25, while most mlab monsters on average have more elemental resistance, and the difference is about 25(lvl0) - 12.5(lvl50) for most. So in the end difference is very slight, considering you aren't always hitting the ones with spike debuff. And then there are SGs, where holy/dark is absolutely superior, since 3 hardest ones have 75 ele and 0 h/d res, so only Konata gonna take a bit more damage from your spike/infusion combo. So why would ice infusion be better? Well, it should be cheaper because its worse, so theres that.
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post Mar 1 2018, 13:16
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 1 2018, 17:59) *

what do you mean void strike and element strike can't be critical? They are just subtypes of physical attack I suppose.


Yes, they are physical subtypes. So Butcher will boot their damage but Fatality can not

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post Mar 1 2018, 13:20
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 1 2018, 10:47) *

I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?

i did a test a while ago with an axe. not sure if i did also holy + dark though
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post Mar 1 2018, 15:53
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Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?
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post Mar 1 2018, 15:59
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Trying to ask again, what is the best IW for a Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo and for an Axe of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo?
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post Mar 1 2018, 16:37
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 1 2018, 14:53) *

Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?

i'd say the next dawn. in the doubt, visit the perk page again though

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 1 2018, 14:59) *

Trying to ask again, what is the best IW for a Club of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo and for an Axe of Slaughter + Rapier of Balance combo?

in the first case i'd say B5F4/B4F5 for both, but don't reset a couple OP if they appear.
in the second, i'd say whatever combo of B, F and O on mainhand + F5O4/F4O5 on offhand
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post Mar 1 2018, 16:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 1 2018, 15:37) *

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So basically, if i'd like to use the same Rapier for both combos, i'm going to have to compromise
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post Mar 1 2018, 18:05
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Why is it that ever single drop I get of moderate quality either cloth or a staff?
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post Mar 1 2018, 18:26
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 1 2018, 10:47) *

I have been wondering that. Is Holy/Dark + Ice infusion combo better or Holy/Dark + Dark/Holy infusion combo better, both with fire spike shield?

Well, i have tested and imo Holy + Ice is supperior to Holy + Dark.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 1 2018, 11:08) *

So that's why so many players want ice infuse..


Jup, that is the reason why.

QUOTE(sangerex @ Mar 1 2018, 11:43) *

I wonder why you think B4F5 is better than B5F4
Since void strike, element strike and counter can not be critical. It means that B5F4 > B4F5 and that why slaughter set is always better than Balance set

Well, it depends, if you have reached or are close to endgame damage, B5F4 is actually better as B4F5. There is was (what the hell?) even a whole topic about the whole numbers and such. Long story short, above 10K ABD B5F4 for below B4F5. Ask DJNoni and Scremaz what they did with the numbers if you dont believe me.

QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 1 2018, 14:53) *

Does anyone know if Long Gone Before Daylight is activated instantly or do I need to wait until the next Dawn?

Iirc it is the same day.

QUOTE(Hichhightest @ Mar 1 2018, 17:05) *

Why is it that ever single drop I get of moderate quality either cloth or a staff?


What do you mean by moderate quality? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

So, my work is done, i have to go now. My planet needs me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Mar 1 2018, 20:10
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Mar 1 2018, 15:43) *

So basically, if i'd like to use the same Rapier for both combos, i'm going to have to compromise

definitely. either that, or use two different rapiers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 2 2018, 02:00
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So, I've been saving up on all the things that my monsters have been gifting me. I currently have two legendary arctic rapiers of slaughter that are both maxed out on potency through item world.

Which do I invest in for upgrading? Or should I upgrade both, since I use one in my current 1-h power build and both in my current dual-shade build?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129020239/181044906c

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/105472630/5c41f07d06

Also, I can't sell or trade these because their soulbound right? Is it better to just hold onto these for future build adjustments?
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post Mar 2 2018, 03:52
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Mar 2 2018, 07:00) *

So, I've been saving up on all the things that my monsters have been gifting me. I currently have two legendary arctic rapiers of slaughter that are both maxed out on potency through item world.

Which do I invest in for upgrading? Or should I upgrade both, since I use one in my current 1-h power build and both in my current dual-shade build?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129020239/181044906c

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/105472630/5c41f07d06

Also, I can't sell or trade these because their soulbound right? Is it better to just hold onto these for future build adjustments?


Why do you have the exact same 2 arctic rapiers? Wow, that's amazing i think. I don't know the details about DW build, some experts said rapier+club is good because you got PA and stunned but i don't know about 2 rapiers build..

For 1h build you should go for the second rapier but you have to change the potencies like your first one. So i think the second rapier is good to go for upgrades...

If you have more credits to spend, i think you should buy a better rapier that have more than 60%-70% damage...

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post Mar 2 2018, 04:14
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 2 2018, 09:52) *

Why do you have the exact same 2 arctic rapiers?

For max coolness I think? Like how I have dark and holy rapiers
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