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post Jan 1 2018, 17:26
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Jan 1 2018, 15:51) *

Just confirming some things...

If a weapon with elemental prefix is IWed to 10 will it always get Hollowforged? And an Ethereal weapon will get Elemental strike?


Sure.
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post Jan 1 2018, 20:00
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Why is there only a Prefix for reducing Burden and not one for reducing Interference?
Why does Mithril not just reduce both?
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post Jan 1 2018, 21:21
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 1 2018, 19:00) *

Why is there only a Prefix for reducing Burden and not one for reducing Interference?
Why does Mithril not just reduce both?

because reducing ITR is not that big of a deal, i guess. it would quickly become as useful as a prefixless one.
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post Jan 1 2018, 21:23
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Hmm...do the new cookie effects not come into effect until the next Dawn? My last DWD run just a few minutes ago had pretty much the exact same EXP I always get.
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post Jan 1 2018, 21:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 1 2018, 20:21) *

because reducing ITR is not that big of a deal, i guess. it would quickly become as useful as a prefixless one.

At least if Mithril reduced both it would be more useful than now?
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post Jan 1 2018, 22:46
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 1 2018, 11:25) *

At least if Mithril reduced both it would be more useful than now?


Mithril currently:
+0.00001% more useful than prefixless.
New and improved Mithril which also reduces Interference:
+0.000010000001%

Yes, technically you're right. It would be more useful than now.
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post Jan 1 2018, 22:54
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Reducing interference is still very helpful at my current level.
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post Jan 1 2018, 22:56
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 1 2018, 21:46) *

Mithril currently:
+0.00001% more useful than prefixless.
New and improved Mithril which also reduces Interference:
+0.000010000001%

Yes, technically you're right. It would be more useful than now.

Perfect, we're on the same page then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 1 2018, 21:54) *

Reducing interference is still very helpful at my current level.

I just run Draughts all day, but yes i'd say that less Interference isn't bad at all.
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post Jan 1 2018, 23:05
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well, personally i don't find a reduction of ITR (read: a reduction of spell costs, considering the gears it applies to) to be particularly useful. but to be fair i am a high-level with no mana management issues and i have the additional mana regen thing.

probably only mid/low-levels may find it useful, as you guys are pointing out. at this point, i'd suggest you to ask for draughts here and there, rather than asking admin to implehement this thing. you know, it's quite the trivial thing for him, but why poking him if we can do it other ways? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jan 1 2018, 23:09
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 1 2018, 22:05) *

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It was just a quick suggestion to make Mithril a little more useful, tbh, i don't care too much about mp too.
Because right now it's pretty bad.
Do you maybe have any other ideas on how to make it better?
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post Jan 1 2018, 23:13
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 1 2018, 22:09) *

It was just a quick suggestion to make Mithril a little more useful, tbh, i don't care too much about mp too.
Because right now it's pretty bad.
Do you maybe have any other ideas on how to make it better?

nope. but with whole classes of gears and suffixes being considered useless, i don't think a special prefix (thus, a rare prefix) that applies only on a small amount of items is a priority.

also, even if would be nice to have an use for all combos, personally i'm fine with useless things too. for how little, it's still a bit better than earning nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jan 1 2018, 23:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 1 2018, 22:13) *

with whole classes of gears and suffixes being considered useless, i don't think a special prefix (thus, a rare prefix) that applies only on a small amount of items is a priority.

Well, this is true.
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post Jan 1 2018, 23:28
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Mithril is overly useless. It'd be decent if it reduced like 40-50% of the Burden.
But I wouldn't mind a brand new prefix to go along with kites, and would reduce only the Interference. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 2 2018, 00:27
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If you had a Legendary Power *** of Protection with near Peerless rolls and a Legendary Power *** of Slaughter with near Magnificent rolls, which would you use?
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post Jan 2 2018, 00:47
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 1 2018, 23:27) *

If you had a Legendary Power *** of Protection with near Peerless rolls and a Legendary Power *** of Slaughter with near Magnificent rolls, which would you use?

if the difference in ADB is negligible, one of them isn't Savage and all the other other rolls (PABs in primis) are M vs. P, probably the Peerless...
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post Jan 2 2018, 01:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 1 2018, 23:47) *

if the difference in ADB is negligible, one of them isn't Savage and all the other other rolls (PABs in primis) are M vs. P, probably the Peerless...

Mhm, food for thought.

Btw, is it worth it to spend like 550k to get an increase in ADB of ~150? I'm not exactly sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 2 2018, 00:32) *

Btw, is it worth it to spend like 550k to get an increase in ADB of ~150? I'm not exactly sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

it depends. do you have 550k to sink to begin with?
if no, well - what are we even speaking about?
if yes, what's your current ADB pool?
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 2 2018, 00:35) *

it depends. do you have 550k to sink to begin with?
if no, well - what are we even speaking about?
if yes, what's your current ADB pool?

I could sink them, i guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Current ADB pool is 6890.
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 2 2018, 00:36) *

Current ADB pool is 6890.

a 2% improvement. if you plan to keep the item for a bit of time, guess it's worth it.
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 1 2018, 14:27) *

If you had a Legendary Power *** of Protection with near Peerless rolls and a Legendary Power *** of Slaughter with near Magnificent rolls, which would you use?


The lazy answer would be to read the wiki.

For [i.imgur.com] power armor max mag slaughter is 27, while lmin is 25. lmax for non-slaughter is 21.

I'm not very lazy, and I realize that isn't all that useful a piece of information without some context and foundational knowledge. Which you may or may not have, and others reading along may lack.

I can't wait for Super's new percentile script to reach saturation of use like the old one has. We can easily get rid of confusion like this when it happens. The old script was certainly useful and gave people who knew how things worked some handy information, but the new script is so much better.

Here is one half of your question: Peerless power armor of protection.

And now the same armor, but with the [i.imgur.com] base, unforged values showing. You can mouseover an item's stats in the equipment link above to see these values, but the script conveniently makes all the base stats visible in this way. You're mostly asking about the ADB, which the old script only gives you as a vague % (100% in this case, as it is the max for a non-slaughter legendary power armor).

So, let's look at some slaughter examples side by side with this non-slaughter. Found some examples in the market, as I don't own any.

[i.imgur.com] Here is a [alt.hentaiverse.org] magnificent power armor of slaughter which, under the old script you'll notice falls in the legendary range (15%) for ADB. The new script shows base ADB side by side. Both of these would get scaled to your level to look like [i.imgur.com] this.

[i.imgur.com] Here is the legendary power armor of slaughter I found on the market with the lowest ADB % (old script) at 39%. [i.imgur.com] Scaled to your level.

For kicks, I happened to find ssss2's high-end power armor of slaughter in my search. Shows as 93% in the old script.

[i.imgur.com] Base values.
[i.imgur.com] Scaled. Although, since this one includes forge 100, that's kind of misleading probably. But it isn't meaningfully far from what a peerless of slaughter with ADB forged to 100 would look like.

So you can see in the wiki what the min/max ranges are for legendary and magnificent slaughter and non-slaughter ADB base values are. These screenshots do the level scaling math for you to put it in perspective. You can also figure for yourself how much that change in ADB represents in ratio with your total ADB on your character sheet. And consider what impact that has across 5 armor slots (each with their own slightly different ranges in the wiki, so keep that in mind too).

But, yes. Slaughter is going to be more ADB. That is entirely what that suffix does. Peerless power armor of slaughter is a 42.96% increase in ADB over peerless power armor of not slaughter. Then whatever forging does to base. The armor you described is probably about a 16% increase.
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