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For weapons, Shortsword of Slaughter (with Imperil) is almost as good as Rapier of Slaughter

On high level, yes, probably even better. Axe is starting to be relevant there as well, once the short sword's parry isn't really important anymore. When weak and low level, it's really not great.
The short sword's biggest asset comes from "spreading" attacks evenly over enemies, which you can only do if you aren't caring about the enemy damage. Rapier can obviously do that as well, but barely benefits from it. (a few more counters is all) Rapier excels at killing things one by one, and is especially good against tanky things. Imperil also costs real time (more effort than just hover), resources (early on maybe a problem) and worst of all: has CD before level 310 and has major issues missing.

That said, due to the bleed overwriting issue, short swords and axes will always be awkward against school girls. Being around level 250 and wanting to pfudor is also this REALLY ugly part of the game, where pfudor PL is basically maxed already, the differences between difficulties get really big.

I'm not against short swords, but I'm not sure if at that time of the game it's a great idea. Too many things speaking against it. I've been there. At the latest once DWD comes in, a shortsword is going to be a BIG pain, if you aren't super well equiped.

This post has been edited by killi890: Mar 5 2022, 23:39

You have to reach level 250, where you unlock the "1H Block" ability in the Character Abilities page; just enabling and slotting it will already make a big difference in your protection.

As already said, if you can get a Magnificent Force Shield (or even an Exquisite Force shield) it would be a big improvement to your current Buckler; bucklers are the wickest shields (except for Buckler of Barrier), even a Kite Shield with good block would be better, especially if Magnificent.

For weapons, Shortsword of Slaughter (with Imperil) is almost as good as Rapier of Slaughter; is much easier to find and less costly too, and since you'll have to change it again later on, it may be a preferred option for a good but temporary weapon.

Good luck, and check your Moogle mail (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

THANK YOU! It's quite a surprise for me when I checked my MM today, and @jantch also gave me a surprise gold coupon, from which I acquired a nice shield.

And I acquired my first legendary equipment today: Legendary Fiery Shortsword of Slaughter. I assume that it is quite lucky for me to have a useful legendary equip drop at the first shot. It may be better if "shortsword" could be replaced to "rapier", according to kili890, but hey, it is legendary! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) And I don't even got a decent exquisite rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So some questions about this weapon: do I have to upgrade this weapon to IW10? It takes 82 rounds to IW so I think I have to purchase IW service, but I don't know how much it will cost and whether I could afford that(now I have 200k). If not, then what should I do with this weapon? I'm at a loss now.

I tried IWBTH diff with <30 round arenas after switched to my new shield and find it nearly impossible. I was casting Imperil and Weaken all the way, but still had to cure myself every 4 to 5 turns. And because of pouring spells, I have to use mana potion every ~7 rounds. I switched back to Nintendo diff after accidentally died on the final round of an arena. So should I stick to higher difficulty and ignore the consumable usage, or just stay at Nintendo and wait? I learned that at Lv.250 I'll be able to acquire about 7% block chance, maybe I could try my luck tomorrow, when I unlock the 1H Block ability. Honestly, I think that there's little I can to to further improve my equipment, and maybe I'd rather take the risk.

Still, I appreciate any advice, and you guys are just so awesome!

This post has been edited by Volta-XTY: Mar 6 2022, 10:32

THANK YOU! It's quite a surprise for me when I checked my MM today, and @jantch also gave me a surprise gold coupon, from which I acquired a nice shield.

And I acquired my first legendary equipment today: Legendary Fiery Shortsword of Slaughter. I assume that it is quite lucky for me to have a useful legendary equip drop at the first shot. It may be better if "shortsword" could be replaced to "rapier", according to kili890, but hey, it is legendary! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) And I don't even got a decent exquisite rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So some questions about this weapon: do I have to upgrade this weapon to IW10? It takes 82 rounds to IW so I think I have to purchase IW service, but I don't know how much it will cost and whether I could afford that(now I have 200k). If not, then what should I do with this weapon? I'm at a loss now.

I tried IWBTH diff with <30 round arenas after switched to my new shield and find it nearly impossible. I was casting Imperil and Weaken all the way, but still had to cure myself every 4 to 5 turns. And because of pouring spells, I have to use mana potion every ~7 rounds. I switched back to Nintendo diff after accidentally died on the final round of an arena. So should I stick to higher difficulty and ignore the consumable usage, or just stay at Nintendo and wait? I learned that at Lv.250 I'll be able to acquire about 7% block chance, maybe I could try my luck tomorrow, when I unlock the 1H Block ability. Honestly, I think that there's little I can to to further improve my equipment, and maybe I'd rather take the risk.

Still, I appreciate any advice, and you guys are just so awesome!

There has been extensive research into shortsword vs rapier. Every time it was proven that, if used correctly, above lv 310, the shortsword performs equally well or even better than rapier. "But not for schoolgirls! Bleeding wound!" -> incorrect. The extra damage makes up for it if used correctly.

That weapon will be an excellent choice for long time. Yes, IW it to 10 asap. At first, getting any potency is enough, because you want the Void Strike. Later, you may want to try to get Butcher + Fatality only.

Forge your gear a bit. Especially the block on your shield. And the parry+damage on your sword. You should be able to survive PFUDOR with a good mag shield + leg shortsword in no time.

Is Drain a good choice for warriors?
I feel that Ether Theft and another augment are not very convenient to use, and single Vital Theft is too weak.

By the way, for 2H (Ethereal Mace) light armor (Shade, Fleet) style, is there any advice about spells (except for spells including Spark of Life, Haste, Protection, Spirit Shield, Heartseeker, Regen, Imperil, Shadow Veil)?

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For trophies used for getting Equipments in The Shirne, to sacrifice them or to sell them in HVMarket, which choice is the best?
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This post has been edited by EromancerX: Mar 6 2022, 13:32

Is Drain a good choice for warriors?
I feel that Ether Theft and another augment are not very convenient to use, and single Vital Theft is too weak.

By the way, for 2H (Ethereal Mace) light armor (Shade, Fleet) style, is there any advice about spells (except for spells including Spark of Life, Haste, Protection, Spirit Shield, Heartseeker, Regen, Imperil, Shadow Veil)?

(sorry for slightly spamming, just to leave a post with reply notification)

For trophies used for getting Equipments in The Shirne, to sacrifice them or to sell them in HVMarket, which choice is the best?
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drain: using potions is much easier. Drain is very weak. You can use it, but why would you if potions are so cheap?

2h is a very difficult style. There are some design flaws in 2h, I feel. The defense is just too low. And not enough offense to compensate for it. If you use more spells, then you get more hits as well. DW, 1h, both are way better than 2h. But if you want to play 2h nonetheless, I suggest you try sleep on 3 monsters at the start, cast weaken on the rest, and hope you survive that far.

Trophies: at your level, selling them is more effective. It should be possible to find good gear within soulfuse-range. Selling trophies will give you the funds to buy those


This post has been edited by Noni: Mar 6 2022, 14:50

drain: using potions is much easier. Drain is very weak. You can use it, but why would you if potions are so cheap?

2h is a very difficult style. There are some design flaws in 2h, I feel. The defense is just too low. And not enough offense to compensate for it. If you use more spells, then you get more hits as well. DW, 1h, both are way better than 2h. But if you want to play 2h nonetheless, I suggest you try sleep on 3 monsters at the start, cast weaken on the rest, and hope you survive that far.

Trophies: at your level, selling them is more effective. It should be possible to find good gear within soulfuse-range. Selling trophies will give you the funds to buy those

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Thanks for your advice!
Ethereal Mace and Shade Armor have provided me monster stunned time and enough evade chance to survival, only sometimes (about 1/10 at PFUDOR difficulty) need to use potions for emergency, as a result I generally don't use sleep (also because sleeping monsters will wake when getting hit).
And yes, as you said, 2H is not enough offensive (1 round with all normal monsters takes me 15-30 turns to clear, A Dance with Dragon at PFUDOR takes me about 1.5h to clear). But I have tried 1H style, and feel like being hit all the time and can only hit a small number of enemies at a time, while 2H with Mace and 0 Burden can be more safe and wide-ranged (as far as I can feel). That's why I decided to play 2H.
Maybe I haven't find the right fighting process to use 1H? May I ask for some suggestions about that (EHWiki does not have much details about it)?

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A question about HentaiVerse Advice Advanced:

Most experience is gained when stamina is above 60. Best battles for experience gain are the last few arenas (A Dance with Dragons through Secret Pony Level and To Kill a God through The Trio and the Tree). Highest possible experience gain per round is Secret Pony Level arena at stamina above 60.

Isn't Secret Pony Level a 500 level Arena? Then doesn't the player get no more experience after level 500?

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How many turns does it usually take to clear A Dance with Dragon (PFUDOR)? (for warriors and mages)

This post has been edited by EromancerX: Mar 7 2022, 06:16

(1)
Thanks for your advice!
Ethereal Mace and Shade Armor have provided me monster stunned time and enough evade chance to survival, only sometimes (about 1/10 at PFUDOR difficulty) need to use potions for emergency, as a result I generally don't use sleep (also because sleeping monsters will wake when getting hit).
And yes, as you said, 2H is not enough offensive (1 round with all normal monsters takes me 15-30 turns to clear, A Dance with Dragon at PFUDOR takes me about 1.5h to clear). But I have tried 1H style, and feel like being hit all the time and can only hit a small number of enemies at a time, while 2H with Mace and 0 Burden can be more safe and wide-ranged (as far as I can feel). That's why I decided to play 2H.
Maybe I haven't find the right fighting process to use 1H? May I ask for some suggestions about that (EHWiki does not have much details about it)?

(2)
A question about HentaiVerse Advice Advanced:

Isn't Secret Pony Level a 500 level Arena? Then doesn't the player get no more experience after level 500?

(3)
How many turns does it usually take to clear A Dance with Dragon (PFUDOR)? (for warriors and mages)

1. 1h has actually 'attack on all' through: a. Orbital Friendship Cannon; b. counterattacks. Also, 1h is able to keep up Spirit Stance almost all the time. Also, 1h has stun from shield. Also, stunned monster + Vital Strike = high damage. Get a good shield (magnificent force for instance). Block is the only stat that matters. Forge block a bit. Use a rapier of slaughter.
2. You do get exp, just no level up. Proficiency gain is tied to exp. so very usefulll
3. end game mage: 1500 turns. 1h : 3500 turns or so.

This post has been edited by Noni: Mar 7 2022, 08:43

I am a new player with some questions about hentaiverse.
Can I sent a soulbound equip by mooglemail?
If can,will it be soulbound to the receiver?

Can I sent a soulbound equip by mooglemail?

No.

I get it,thx!

Hi ^.^

First off, thank you for everyone so far for all the answears and information!


My next question is about Item World Equipment Potency Leveling to IW10.
What is a good strategy? How to begin? Should I only do IW at endgame?
What equipment to IW level up first and till what IW level?

I have some Legendary Equipment (Elementalist and also Phase, yeah I love Mage) for endgame, lvl 400-500.

Is it possible to IW as Mage (I only play Mage) or I can kiss that goodbye?

Should I just play normally until I can equip those Legendaries and then IW them one by one to IW10?

Do I need lower quality Equipment IW10 (like Exquisite or Magnificent) to be able to do Legendary IW10,
or if I wear a full Legenray set then I will be strong enough as a Mage to IW one to IW10?

Or is that a bad strategy and players should IW their Equipment (all pieces one by one) to IW2,
then when all pieces are IW2 then start reaching to higher IW levels like all to IW4, etc, or what?


Is there a IW strategy guide somewhere that I can read?



Sorry if I asked too many questions about IW but Wiki has info on it, but no guide, and it is quite an
important part of the game if a Mage wants to be able to play on higher difficulty levels,
and Juggernaut 5 is really important for Mages because of HP.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World





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Hi ^.^

First off, thank you for everyone so far for all the answears and information!
My next question is about Item World Equipment Potency Leveling to IW10.
What is a good strategy? How to begin? Should I only do IW at endgame?
What equipment to IW level up first and till what IW level?

Best way is to start with getting two potencies and retry until you get the one (or even two) that you want. If you are strong enough to do IW on PFUDOR that it. Then reforge if it becomes impossible or very highly unlikely that the desired result can be reached.

I have some Legendary Equipment (Elementalist and also Phase, yeah I love Mage) for endgame, lvl 400-500.

Is it possible to IW as Mage (I only play Mage) or I can kiss that goodbye?

Should I just play normally until I can equip those Legendaries and then IW them one by one to IW10?

That's a very dangerous strategy, buying equip that you can't use for a while. There may be changes coming in future releases that will drastically change the prices of gear. It could even be that your perferct IW will get reset and replaced by another mechanic in the future. We can't be sure if that ever happens, but you are taking a big risk.

IW is best played at high difficulty. Otherwise it just takes too bloody long. And as low level mage, I doubt that you can do that. It's probably easier to switch to another style, specifically for doing IW.

There is a good chance that you won't use those lgendaries in the end. But if you must, do them one by one.

Do I need lower quality Equipment IW10 (like Exquisite or Magnificent) to be able to do Legendary IW10,
or if I wear a full Legenray set then I will be strong enough as a Mage to IW one to IW10?

Again, IW is terrible if you have to do it on normal only. Takes forever. So you need to invest in the gear that you actually use. For a melee weapon, IW10 is always a good idea, as it gives you a second strike of Void damage. For low level mage? Exquisites? You need all the buffs you can get, but even then it won't be enough I fear.

Or is that a bad strategy and players should IW their Equipment (all pieces one by one) to IW2,
then when all pieces are IW2 then start reaching to higher IW levels like all to IW4, etc, or what?

Why would you do that? To get the help of 2 potencies? No, low level players benefit the most of IW10 on ther melee weapon. Rest can wait until you get better gear and can play on high difficulty.

Is there a IW strategy guide somewhere that I can read?

I suggest you use HV Utils script. This script has a great IW feature. It will tell you how many potencies you will unlock in one run, it will highlight the equip that you were working on, it allows reforge from the same page, and it prevents accidental salvage completely. Using this script, you can make a plan on how many runs you need etc.


In conclusion however, my advice is to let those high-level legendaries be for now and work on a character that can actually finish IW on PFUDOR first.

hi what s the utility of axe ?

Wanna ask a small question: How long will it take for one without gold star or anything that boosts exp (yes, that's me) to reach Lv.500, with only 24 stamina per day? I think I'll have to change my goal if it takes, like, five years to reach Lv.500. Also, how many credits can a pro player earn every day? My script tells me I can make ~200k profit each day, and I want to know if there's still much space for the profit to go up. Thanks if someone could let me know the lives of pro players XD

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Died twice today due to stuipid mistakes, feeling pretty bad.

hi what s the utility of axe ?

Don't mean to be offensive, but, you're Lv.500, and I'm so confused now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

This post has been edited by Volta-XTY: Mar 8 2022, 16:36

Wanna ask a small question: How long will it take for one without gold star or anything that boosts exp (yes, that's me) to reach Lv.500, with only 24 stamina per day?

I don't have gold star, but do have some exp bonuses in cookies/training/hath perks. Right now Dawn of the new day + doing all arenas a day can get me enough exp to level every 4 days. It uses slightly more stamina than 24, but it can be offset with energy drink once in a while (easily getting more than I need from artifacts).
As for gold - 200k/day is normal I think. It is possible to increase that amount by selling artifacts(or energy drinks), scrolls, potions and sometimes equipment at higher levels. Getting a legendary/day is about average (Mostly useless trash though). It really all depends on how much you invest. Doing all arenas consumes a lot of time though, that's why I am usually just getting dawn event, few RE and maybe my two top arenas. I am not really aiming at 500 level anytime soon - it is all casual playing.

This post has been edited by Wraithtouch: Mar 8 2022, 16:49

hi what s the utility of axe ?

excellent for chopping down trees. Not much use in Hentaiverse.

Don't mean to be offensive, but, you're Lv.500, and I'm so confused now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Not all L.500 players are experts. Just as there are a few experts who are not much above L.300.

He may have reached 500 just with Dawns and a bit o casual playing, since his account is sooo old.
(Back from 2008 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) almost from the site's start)

Wanna ask a small question: How long will it take for one without gold star or anything that boosts exp (yes, that's me) to reach Lv.500, with only 24 stamina per day? I think I'll have to change my goal if it takes, like, five years to reach Lv.500.

I do some roughtly math, without star and other exp boosts (except thread post), and assume you play 24 stamina every day in good stamina range with double exp, and with dawn every day, it will take about 1455 days from lv.400 to lv.500, about 4 years. If without even thread post, the days will be 16xx, if you don't play in double exp range it will be even longer, but not that much different, as you will almost totaly rely on dawn to levelup since lv.48x. I didn't caculate the days before lv.400 but they should take over 1year in this case.
By the way with GS and all trainings+perks boost it will take about 400 days from lv.400 to lv.500, and maybe 100ish days from begining to lv.400. Without star and any rewards but with all trainings+perks it will be about 900 days from lv.400 to lv.500, maybe litte less as you will get one cookie every year

hi what s the utility of axe ?

excellent for chopping down trees. Not much use in Hentaiverse.

At least better than Club (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So far I know, Axe gives Bleeding Wound like Swords, have Greater Damage than sword but also have Greater Burden and lower Accuracy
More on that can be seen here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Basics

This post has been edited by Adhinferno Bloodmoon: Mar 9 2022, 04:18

At least better than Club (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So far I know, Axe gives Bleeding Wound like Swords, have Greater Damage than sword but also have Greater Burden and lower Accuracy
More on that can be seen here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Basics

Club of slaughter is best choice for main hand DW against SG's. Axe has no parry and is useless because of that, unless you have end-game defensive stats on your armor and shield.

Best to be careful with giving advice if you don't know how things work.