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post Jan 27 2022, 23:20
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hi
im level 114 and im struggling in arenas and grindfests and only now i know of this thread about ask the experts
so ill post here everything i think you can help me with
i want to be mage kind of player
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i also have 1 point in Conflagartion in elemental tree
1 in better corruption in forbidden
1 better smite in divine

more abilities:
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[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/uKApq6P.png

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cloth armor:
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and this is my armor
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please teach me senpais (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 28 2022, 00:27
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Mage is difficult at low levels, but in return it becomes super strong late game. If you haven't already, also check out the Advice Page on the wiki, Nezu's Mage Guide, and another Beginner Mage Guide

Most people would recommend playing a melee style (1 hand or dual wield especially), but mage is possible at low levels too. The trick is to use a 1hand weapon with high parry and a shield with good block and low interference, instead of a staff. This will keep you alive long enough to blow up some monsters.

Also for keeping you alive, try putting more points in endurance. Endurance, Agility, and Dexterity all help defensively, in that order of importance.

Equipping a mage can be difficult because mages are rather picky about equipment suffixes. For example as a fire mage, you'd ideally want your armor to be a combination of phase of surtr and cotton of the elementalist, whereas a melee player can slap on any piece of armor and have it work just fine, as long as it's all of the same type (i.e. all light armor or all heavy armor).
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post Jan 28 2022, 20:32
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Does a peerless voucher have a fos value?
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post Jan 29 2022, 00:27
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Arena with a lot of legedary monsters (like End of Days) worth doing for exp or credits as mage?

Seems to need lot mana potions so I not sure is worth it for exp or credits (maybe worth for trophy farming bosses)

Maybe is better with level up economizer potency & infuse Aether?
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post Jan 29 2022, 08:17
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Remembered HV existed about two weeks ago and started playing again but I just feel like arenas are taking me much longer than they used to (20~25 minutes for a 55 round arena). Granted, the last time I played HV was about... 4 years back? Feels about that long. Using 1H melee with an axe (bec I got given a legendary eth) and my armor is Mag/Exq shade stuff (mix of shadowdancer/negation/arcanist) I bought/found and soulbinded back then. All abilities are maxed for level and I have shadow veil on innate arcana. Did see on the guide that light armor is apparently bad for 1H but I didn't think it should make that great a difference.

Thought I would post some stats here and see if there was anything (apart from dumping credits into buying or upgrading gear) that people might be able to suggest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

:edit: btw I do have OFC and I use it with holy fervor whenever it is ready.

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post Jan 29 2022, 09:58
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 29 2022, 07:17) *

Remembered HV existed about two weeks ago and started playing again but I just feel like arenas are taking me much longer than they used to (20~25 minutes for a 55 round arena).


Go to https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=72 and get at least Monsterbation if you don't have it. HVUtils is also a nice idea.

That said, your setup is definitely a mess. Provided you have the credits, you could try going there: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=252326
Try renting a Rapier and see if you like that. Anything else kinda relies on Imperil, which isn't great before level 310.

The reason why light + 1h isn't "good" is just because it's slower. 1h is the tankiest style just from a good shield alone (that you seem to not have) and the common weapon choice Rapier. That's why 1h likes power armor, as it gives the most attack. That however kinda implies that you have good gear. I'm not sure how much of a difference there is between your build and, say, someone with 3 plates and 2 power armors, and generally not that great gear. (doubly so with an axe and no absurd amounts of attack, instead of a Rapier)

At your level you can't just easily get gear. You gotta start somewhere though, and most would say: Rapier + force shield + power armor is your first major goal. It's a long journey. The first step is probably the weapon and shield.
If your gear is REALLY old, you may also have the problem, that it's underpowered. At least the axe looks fine, but I wouldn't know about the rest. Another script, Live Percentile Ranges , would tell you. (you need to set a custom font in the settings, for some of these scripts to work)

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post Jan 29 2022, 10:23
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 29 2022, 14:17) *

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feel like arenas are taking me much longer than they used to (20~25 minutes for a 55 round arena).
-snap-


Just a quote from 0.88 update. The new arena which have same rounds to before is mean to have more monsters than before.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 23 2021, 16:57) *

- Arena round counts were rescaled and now cap at 100. This includes a tweak to the arena monster scaling where you effectively skip the first 25% of arena rounds compared to the old scaling.


Also, the monsters get stronger these year than before too

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post Jan 29 2022, 11:49
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Jan 29 2022, 09:58) *

At your level you can't just easily get gear. You gotta start somewhere though, and most would say: Rapier + force shield + power armor is your first major goal. It's a long journey. The first step is probably the weapon and shield.
If your gear is REALLY old, you may also have the problem, that it's underpowered. At least the axe looks fine, but I wouldn't know about the rest. Another script, Live Percentile Ranges , would tell you. (you need to set a custom font in the settings, for some of these scripts to work)


Yeah, the main reason I said that gear wasn't the answer I was looking for was that everything seems to be outside of my soulfusing range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will look around for power armour pieces though as I have about 2mil that I can use and even cheap exq pieces should give me an idea of how it will work. Didn't realise rapiers were supposed to be so much more effective though. Would have thought that the 2x dmg that the axe had would balance that out.

As for Live Percentile Ranges, I tried it but my gear wouldn't get compared for some reason. I think I saw a thing in the script page about gear that is too old being unable to be compared?

QUOTE(what_is_name @ Jan 29 2022, 10:23) *

Just a quote from 0.88 update. The new arena which have same rounds to before is mean to have more monsters than before.
Also, the monsters get stronger these year than before too


That explains so much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jan 29 2022, 13:57
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 29 2022, 10:49) *

Yeah, the main reason I said that gear wasn't the answer I was looking for was that everything seems to be outside of my soulfusing range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will look around for power armour pieces though as I have about 2mil that I can use and even cheap exq pieces should give me an idea of how it will work. Didn't realise rapiers were supposed to be so much more effective though. Would have thought that the 2x dmg that the axe had would balance that out.

As for Live Percentile Ranges, I tried it but my gear wouldn't get compared for some reason. I think I saw a thing in the script page about gear that is too old being unable to be compared?
That explains so much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


If you want it easy: look for a decent shield with the highest block you can find. If nothing in your range can be found, you can shrine some trophies (noodles are best for this) - and aim for a decent mag. force shield. And then forge the block stat a bit. Your block is way too low.

Get rid of the axe, it doesn't have enough parry to be useful. An equisite rapier of slaughter would probably outperform it already. Find a magnificent rapier, if you can't find one go for balance instead of slaughter, or a shortsword of slaughter works as well. Then IW the weapon to 10. Extra void strike!

Problem with light gear is that you will get less overcharge from evade than from block and parry. So evading will hinder your speed. Go hide behind the shield, not running away like crazy carrying that heavy shield with you.

Use the overcharge. Get Orbital Fr. Cannon and use it.

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post Jan 29 2022, 14:06
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QUOTE(DArkmooN69 @ Jan 27 2022, 22:20) *

hi
im level 114 and im struggling in arenas and grindfests and only now i know of this thread about ask the experts
so ill post here everything i think you can help me with
i want to be mage kind of player
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/GowiCRF.png)

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/HTG95Dg.png)

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/VTnfdKe.png)

i also have 1 point in Conflagartion in elemental tree
1 in better corruption in forbidden
1 better smite in divine

more abilities:
[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/tVdojd2.png
[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/uKApq6P.png

[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/NycwfAF.png
[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/0YcbOk5.png

cloth armor:
[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/bjVvT0A.png

and this is my armor
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/LeNyRBF.png)

please teach me senpais (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


This is not how you play mage, sorry. This isn't going to work against stronger enemies, and you want to play at higher difficulties for the drops & income. DWD arena is PFUDOR only - no chance with such gear. If you must play mage, I won't stop you of course. In that case: use imperil. Not high enough level for imperil? Yeah, that sucks.

Best to level up with a stronger build. 1h heavy or Dual Wield + light, both can work. Or try to find much better mage gear at low level and forge the shit out of it. That would work as well.



QUOTE(monk31 @ Jan 28 2022, 23:27) *

Arena with a lot of legedary monsters (like End of Days) worth doing for exp or credits as mage?

Seems to need lot mana potions so I not sure is worth it for exp or credits (maybe worth for trophy farming bosses)

Maybe is better with level up economizer potency & infuse Aether?

Aether shard is helpful if you lack mana. But if you play mage, you need to use mana potions as soon as they cool down. And then you need elixirs as well - especially when your proficiency is low. Mage is not easy if you are low level and low on funds. It requires investment to get the benefits from it. Without investments, you're stuck with the downsides: extremely poor defense.

Yes, End of Days is an excellent source of income and exp. Any style. Improve your gear, forge, etc. until you can play that with ease.

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post Jan 29 2022, 18:18
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 29 2022, 14:06) *


Yes, End of Days is an excellent source of income and exp. Any style. Improve your gear, forge, etc. until you can play that with ease.


Thank you very much.

Is easy, no die,, no effort need (just hover cast + pot/buffs when available) just take some time & much mana bcz many rounds legenday monsters 200,000 hp (on Hell) &I hitting between 5000-15000 usually

I will strengthen self & go. Thanks

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post Jan 30 2022, 10:45
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As for Live Percentile Ranges, I tried it but my gear wouldn't get compared for some reason. I think I saw a thing in the script page about gear that is too old being unable to be compared?
That explains so much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


That's only for obsoletes. Like the axe should definitely work. If it doesn't : You didn't set a custom font in the settings. Without that you get similar issues.
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post Jan 30 2022, 16:47
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can someone tell me about new rules about riddlemaster?

I was an player stop played henteaiverse for an while, just came back recently.
and now found out there is a lot chance in hentaiverse. especially about the stamina part.
it drains me almost 50 stamina for 600 rounds in arena. make I cant even finish all arena gate.
soon I found out there is new rule in riddlemaster. which you need select all 3 pones to get through. which I only selected one as old time. I had received penalty on stamina drain. question I have now is that, how long was this penalty gonna to be last. what can I do to reduce the time of the penalty.

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post Jan 30 2022, 17:52
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QUOTE(puppydoll @ Jan 30 2022, 15:47) *

can someone tell me about new rules about riddlemaster?

I was an player stop played henteaiverse for an while, just came back recently.
and now found out there is a lot chance in hentaiverse. especially about the stamina part.
it drains me almost 50 stamina for 600 rounds in arena. make I cant even finish all arena gate.
soon I found out there is new rule in riddlemaster. which you need select all 3 pones to get through. which I only selected one as old time. I had received penalty on stamina drain. question I have now is that, how long was this penalty gonna to be last. what can I do to reduce the time of the penalty.


Duration of penalty is not known - Tenboro doesn't want to tell anyone. What we do know:
1. it is not permanent
2. it depends on the most recent riddles
so if you continue playing, and this time get more riddles right, the problem will be solved in time.
Tip: Study the pony chart - it's on the wiki.



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post Jan 30 2022, 22:52
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Hi,

some potions for poor player like me please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 30 2022, 22:54
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QUOTE(retardedperson @ Jan 30 2022, 21:52) *

Hi,

some potions for poor player like me please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77

look for [FREE] in title
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post Jan 31 2022, 01:01
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QUOTE(puppydoll @ Jan 30 2022, 16:47) *

can someone tell me about new rules about riddlemaster?

I was an player stop played henteaiverse for an while, just came back recently.
and now found out there is a lot chance in hentaiverse. especially about the stamina part.
it drains me almost 50 stamina for 600 rounds in arena. make I cant even finish all arena gate.
soon I found out there is new rule in riddlemaster. which you need select all 3 pones to get through. which I only selected one as old time. I had received penalty on stamina drain. question I have now is that, how long was this penalty gonna to be last. what can I do to reduce the time of the penalty.


I feel your pain with the ponies. I have a screen contrast script that I installed ages back because I have problems with fuzzy pictures like that due to a vision impairment. Now my error rate is only about 20% lol
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post Jan 31 2022, 08:17
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 30 2022, 23:52) *

Duration of penalty is not known - Tenboro doesn't want to tell anyone. What we do know:
1. it is not permanent
2. it depends on the most recent riddles
so if you continue playing, and this time get more riddles right, the problem will be solved in time.
Tip: Study the pony chart - it's on the wiki.

Thanks for the info, btw I just realize that now my Stamina in Isekai is Red even after I have not played since January 28th (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And here I am, thinking that the penalty will be erased after Dawn of the New Day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 31 2022, 13:42
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jan 28 2022, 19:32) *

Does a peerless voucher have a fos value?

I can test this on isekai for you:

Before voucher shrine: You have handed in 22,849,200 credits worth of trophies.
After 1 voucher shrine: You have handed in 22,851,200 credits worth of trophies.

Yes, Peerless Voucher has a FOS value of 2000 credits.
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post Jan 31 2022, 14:28
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jan 31 2022, 12:42) *

I can test this on isekai for you:

Before voucher shrine: You have handed in 22,849,200 credits worth of trophies.
After 1 voucher shrine: You have handed in 22,851,200 credits worth of trophies.

Yes, Peerless Voucher has a FOS value of 2000 credits.



Which is the same as for one Hinamatsuri Doll, iirc.

Not a very good investment of your Peerlees Voucher, if I may say so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Edit: but those aren't tradeable, iirc, so there's nothing else you can do with them, right ?

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