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post Dec 24 2021, 06:29
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Here are my current mage equips.

[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Elementalist
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Frugal Phase Robe of Surtr
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Onyx Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Surtr
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Frugal Phase Shoes of Surtr

I finally managed to clear my first arena with this, but the process was a bit rough. Even though it was a 30-round arena, I sparked quite a few times and needed to use an elixir. The only hath perk I have is IA 3.

What would be the next best thing to invest in if I want to improve my survivability and overall performance?
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:02
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QUOTE(jantch @ Dec 24 2021, 11:40) *

That's normal. The effects of forging and IW are removed when equipment is brought from Isekai to Persistent.

Uh, okay,... Thank you for the Answer.

Also, one more question, why did my Arena Buttons suddenly can't be clicked?
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I have yet to play that and somehow the button don't shine and can't be clicked
My Stamina is still on 92.....
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:04
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QUOTE(Adhinferno Bloodmoon @ Dec 24 2021, 08:02) *

Uh, okay,... Thank you for the Answer.

Also, one more question, why did my Arena Buttons suddenly can't be clicked?
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I have yet to play that and somehow the button don't shine and can't be clicked
My Stamina is still on 92.....

you haven't finished killzone yet. Pro tip: slightly lower difficulty when you do an arena first time. Because if you lose, no access to the next.
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:28
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QUOTE(Noni @ Dec 24 2021, 15:04) *

you haven't finished killzone yet. Pro tip: slightly lower difficulty when you do an arena first time. Because if you lose, no access to the next.

Oh, that, I am killed by internet lag+ monster crits where I have not learned Spark of Life yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Guess I gotta need to wait for next day, huh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
Thank you for the answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:57
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post Dec 24 2021, 15:37
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have a small question
in isekai tower mode, we get 0.2x exp rate after cleaning each floor
which means I can reach the max exp rate(x5?) after finish floor 20 right?
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post Dec 24 2021, 15:53
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QUOTE(chikeshi @ Dec 24 2021, 13:37) *

have a small question
in isekai tower mode, we get 0.2x exp rate after cleaning each floor
which means I can reach the max exp rate(x5?) after finish floor 20 right?


There is no 'max' exp rate.
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post Dec 24 2021, 16:04
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 24 2021, 21:53) *

There is no 'max' exp rate.

got it, thx (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 24 2021, 19:12
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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Dec 24 2021, 05:29) *

Here are my current mage equips.

[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Elementalist
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Frugal Phase Robe of Surtr
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Onyx Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Surtr
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Frugal Phase Shoes of Surtr

I finally managed to clear my first arena with this, but the process was a bit rough. Even though it was a 30-round arena, I sparked quite a few times and needed to use an elixir. The only hath perk I have is IA 3.

What would be the next best thing to invest in if I want to improve my survivability and overall performance?


Vigorous Vitality first (it's also cheap, and useful for any style, not just mages).

Then it depends : if you have enough Haths, I'd say Demon Duality I.
Relatively cheap perks that can be useful in battle are also Resplendent Regeneration and Enigma Energizer.

Edit : And if you do some calculation, maybe your Elem prof is such that getting the 10% boost of Eminent Elementalist is enough to be able to switch from3+2 to 4+1 ?

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post Dec 25 2021, 01:45
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Dec 24 2021, 12:12) *

Vigorous Vitality first (it's also cheap, and useful for any style, not just mages).

Then it depends : if you have enough Haths, I'd say Demon Duality I.
Relatively cheap perks that can be useful in battle are also Resplendent Regeneration and Enigma Energizer.

Edit : And if you do some calculation, maybe your Elem prof is such that getting the 10% boost of Eminent Elementalist is enough to be able to switch from3+2 to 4+1 ?


Thanks! Sounds like what I need is some more investment in hath perks over my gear.
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post Dec 26 2021, 04:54
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Tried asking this is the script thread but not sure if anyone looks there, i get the "dbGet: Error opening db undefined error" error when trying to save the WTS/WTB lists with smart search 1.3.7.s2 script. Does the script just not work when in incognito mode? If so is there anyone to get it to work or any alternative script? If not, then what's causing the issue?

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post Dec 27 2021, 06:01
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Need some help with figuring out pfudor grindfest.
Expert advice would be really appreciated!!!


I got up to ~650 rounds ish.
Died because I used imperil by reflex instead of healing.

Questions:
1. I currently have imperil set to cast on monsters 2/5/8 by pressing keyboard 1/2/3
But that bypasses any restrictions like low health/mana/spirit bar.
Is there a way to set it so that it wouldn't cast imperil if my health/mana/spirit is in the red?
I keep mistakenly casting and dying for it :/ Or is that beyond the current automation limit Tenbo is allowing?
Otherwise I need to slow way down.


2. What would you recommend I upgrade/change equipment wise to make grindfests easier?
I'm open to buying alternate gear just for GF.
I don't mind if it's something really expensive, I'm looking to upgrade over time for long-term.
But obv keep stuff reasonable like "replace charged with radiant, prioritizing A and B slots and X and Y stats" is reasonable, "replaced everything with peerless" is obv unreasonable.

3. Any recommendations on stat allocation?
4. Any recommendations on consumable use?
5. Anything else I'm forgetting...

Below I'm attaching links to my gear:
Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall
Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent
Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Heimdall
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Heimdall
Legendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall

And attacking ending screenshot of PFest and character detail screenshots:
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post Dec 27 2021, 06:43
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 27 2021, 04:01) *

1. I currently have imperil set to cast on monsters 2/5/8 by pressing keyboard 1/2/3
But that bypasses any restrictions like low health/mana/spirit bar.
Is there a way to set it so that it wouldn't cast imperil if my health/mana/spirit is in the red?


I think this is fall into this rule about scripts:

QUOTE(varst @ Apr 14 2012, 17:19) *

In particular, this means that are explicitly banned while on-battle:
  • Things that stop hover-attack (or any other action) based on specific condition. Hovering can restart automatically though.
    - Only exceptions allowed are stop on HP/MP/SP thresholds and stop on buffs expiring.
    -> example: default hotkeys cannot be excluded in case of low health


Most likely answer would be dont expect to ses this feature in legal scripts.
All rules are here.
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:09
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Dec 27 2021, 13:43) *

I think this is fall into this rule about scripts:
Most likely answer would be dont expect to ses this feature in legal scripts.
All rules are here.


Thanks for the link!

Guess I'll have to slow down then.

Or just go sans imperil.
I wonder if that's possible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:57
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 27 2021, 04:01) *

Need some help with figuring out pfudor grindfest.
Expert advice would be really appreciated!!!


2. What would you recommend I upgrade/change equipment wise to make grindfests easier?
I'm open to buying alternate gear just for GF.
I don't mind if it's something really expensive, I'm looking to upgrade over time for long-term.
But obv keep stuff reasonable like "replace charged with radiant, prioritizing A and B slots and X and Y stats" is reasonable, "replaced everything with peerless" is obv unreasonable.


To be honest the biggest things I can say are that imperil holy is dogshit, non-imperil holy is much harder than it used to be and you will just die playing it, and that grindfest is never easy these days - monsters scaled up harder than expected.

Replacing charged with radiant will make it harder for imperil holy, not easier. You will just die more.

If you've already read this guide about gear, there's not a whole lot I can recommend besides more DD levels pretty much.

You can finish grindfest fine right now by slowing down and being careful with your imperils, but it won't be comfortable; a lot of people are finding that fleeing at round 750, 800, 850 etc is best for them these days.

QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Dec 27 2021, 04:43) *

I think this is fall into this rule about scripts:
Most likely answer would be dont expect to ses this feature in legal scripts.
All rules are here.


Better to use this thread for up-to-date script rulings.

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post Dec 27 2021, 08:49
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Dec 27 2021, 14:57) *

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Thanks, Nezu! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 27 2021, 09:07
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 27 2021, 06:49) *

Thanks, Nezu! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Oh, also, just looking at your screenshots - you might want to play around with your HP and SP thresholds in Monsterbation a little. Your health elixir usage compared to cures suggests to me that you're curing too early and being restricted by cooldowns. Your spirit elixir usage is really high, but last elixirs low, so you could also get more room to work with by using more of those.

And your imperil count is kind of low, like you're not recasting against failed ones; this isn't necessarily a bad thing - it can be faster for high damage players - but it can impact survival a lot, too, because you'll get fewer 1-shots with your T3. You'll also get proportionately more T3s compared to T2s and T1s, which can be a minor improvement - imperil is fast and relatively safe to cast compared to damaging spells.

You should also massively adjust your PABs - your int/wis is way too high compared to your dex/agi/end, in particular the dex/end since you can't get those from equipment - those are your only sources of parry and HP. Bringing your END up to the same as your int/wis should help a lot, and I personally play with it as my highest stat.

Aaaaalso 4+1 robe is not a good option until you have about 580+ proficiency, and it only really breaks even with 3+2 when you're around 590 on paper, assuming PHOH and peerless robe. (The 4+1 set may get you more mileage in DWD and maaaybe PGC, iirc you have DD somewhere between 5 and 7, although 5+0 is best for those 2 at high level, while standard 3+2/4+1 is best for SPL in my experience when you get there.)

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post Dec 27 2021, 11:41
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Dec 26 2021, 23:01) *

1. I currently have imperil set to cast on monsters 2/5/8 by pressing keyboard 1/2/3
But that bypasses any restrictions like low health/mana/spirit bar.
Is there a way to set it so that it wouldn't cast imperil if my health/mana/spirit is in the red?
I keep mistakenly casting and dying for it :/ Or is that beyond the current automation limit Tenbo is allowing?
Otherwise I need to slow way down.



You can use hover imperil in monsterbation to achieve something similar. In my shift hover action, I have "Strongest([ToggleHover, Cast('Imperil')])" (without quotation marks) which tries to cast imperil once, and then turns off hover mode. I also have checked "reactivate hover after releasing any key," but other people use a certain key to toggle hover mode. At the beginning of rounds where there's a high chance of me dying, I'll hold down shift and hover over who I want to imperil, and tap alt (not bound to anything, just reactivates hover after releasing the key) to cast imperil. And when I'm done imperiling, I release shift (reactivating hover) and blast the monsters. For me, this is a bit slower than just pressing 1 2 3, but it's impossible to suicide by imperil.
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post Dec 28 2021, 01:29
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Hi,

Would like to know if "rule" #27 of post #2 https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4999403 is up to date aka i should not upgrade my monsters and create as many as possible with my chaos tokens ?
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post Dec 28 2021, 01:45
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QUOTE(log1c692018 @ Dec 27 2021, 18:29) *

Hi,

Would like to know if "rule" #27 of post #2 https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4999403 is up to date aka i should not upgrade my monsters and create as many as possible with my chaos tokens ?

Yes, that rule is up to date. Many weak monsters are more profitable than a few strong monsters.
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