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post Nov 22 2021, 16:01
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QUOTE(Adhinferno Bloodmoon @ Nov 22 2021, 08:13) *

Absolutely True. From Level 100 above, most of my EXP comes from RE.
Difficulty Hell on Lv <250
Nintendo and IWBTH on Lv<280
PFUDOR from Lv 280 onwards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

After Lv420-450, most of my EXP is from "dawn of the day" bouns.
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post Nov 23 2021, 06:35
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Nov 22 2021, 22:01) *

After Lv420-450, most of my EXP is from "dawn of the day" bouns.

Yeah, that would gives you 10% EXP (5% basic and doubled if you make a post in forum within 30 days) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So the Higher your level, the more EXP you get (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Nov 24 2021, 08:05
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One of my goals is to have the follower of snowflake hath perk. I am nearing the 10 mil mark for offered trophies.

Should I simply accumulate the trophies from the various battles, or will it be more prudent to sell them off in auctions as bulk?
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post Nov 24 2021, 09:23
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Nov 24 2021, 07:05) *

One of my goals is to have the follower of snowflake hath perk. I am nearing the 10 mil mark for offered trophies.

Should I simply accumulate the trophies from the various battles, or will it be more prudent to sell them off in auctions as bulk?

FOS seems a strange investment if you don't even have gold star yet? Selling trophies is much better for most players, as you can use the credits to get excellent legendary stuff in auction, which performs very good. You don't need peerless to get a great build!

Selling can best be done in HVMarket.xyz in my opinion. Best price and fast sales.
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post Nov 24 2021, 10:00
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Nov 24 2021, 07:05) *

One of my goals is to have the follower of snowflake hath perk. I am nearing the 10 mil mark for offered trophies.

Should I simply accumulate the trophies from the various battles, or will it be more prudent to sell them off in auctions as bulk?



QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 24 2021, 08:23) *

FOS seems a strange investment if you don't even have gold star yet? Selling trophies is much better for most players, as you can use the credits to get excellent legendary stuff in auction, which performs very good. You don't need peerless to get a great build!

Selling can best be done in HVMarket.xyz in my opinion. Best price and fast sales.


Although it was already kinda implied, I'd like to stress this as well. Before you get the follower of snowflake hath perk, you should consider a gold star. The current price of that perk is the equivalent of 225 million credits. It's for super rich people. Heck a gold star already is for super rich people, or a very long term saving process. Unless you win the actual HVerse lottery, and get a really good and sellable piece of equip dropped. Unless you want to spend the money and can also do so. (not everyone is comfortable with the payment method)

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post Nov 24 2021, 20:56
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QUOTE(Adhinferno Bloodmoon @ Nov 23 2021, 05:35) *

Yeah, that would gives you 10% EXP (5% basic and doubled if you make a post in forum within 30 days) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So the Higher your level, the more EXP you get (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Are you sure ?

AFAIK posting in forums doubles only battle exp gain, not Dawnofanewday which stays 5% regardless anything else.
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post Nov 25 2021, 23:52
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It just took me 1 hour and 40 minutes to beat a dance with dragons, and took a pretty damn long time to beat eternal darkness as well. This isn't even difficult, it's just boring as fuck; that's been the story for quite a while now and I'm wondering if this is even worth the amount of time it takes.

Is it even worth it to do the schoolgirl arenas for exp or should I just lower the difficulty and collect the trophy drops? Doing PFUDOR btw (1h rapier)

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post Nov 26 2021, 00:22
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QUOTE(8generation @ Nov 26 2021, 05:52) *

It just took me 1 hour and 40 minutes to beat a dance with dragons, and took a pretty damn long time to beat eternal darkness as well. This isn't even difficult, it's just boring as fuck; that's been the story for quite a while now and I'm wondering if this is even worth the amount of time it takes.

Is it even worth it to do the schoolgirl arenas for exp or should I just lower the difficulty and collect the trophy drops? Doing PFUDOR btw (1h rapier)


If you want to get more Income from Arenas, you should play all the Arenas at PFUDOR to gain EXP to reach Level 400 and 500 as quickly as possible, so that you can unlock Post-Game Content and Secret Pony Level.

If just for EXP, Eternal Darkness isn't a good Place, even Dreamfall is more effcient for EXP than Eternal Darkness, which means you won't loss much EXP if you clear Eternal Darkness at Hell.
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post Nov 26 2021, 08:24
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QUOTE(8generation @ Nov 25 2021, 16:52) *

It just took me 1 hour and 40 minutes to beat a dance with dragons, and took a pretty damn long time to beat eternal darkness as well. This isn't even difficult, it's just boring as fuck; that's been the story for quite a while now and I'm wondering if this is even worth the amount of time it takes.

Is it even worth it to do the schoolgirl arenas for exp or should I just lower the difficulty and collect the trophy drops? Doing PFUDOR btw (1h rapier)



What equips are you using? That seems way too long to me (my experience with DWD is usually 30ish minutes with fairly mediocre equipment).
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post Nov 26 2021, 22:08
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OK, is just me or have the arena challenges gotten more difficult lately?

Or does it have something to do with my level? I recently reached lvl 240 and at first I noticed that my exp gain has gone near zero, which isn't actually that bad. I can understand that with greater levels the grind is being increased. What I don't understand is that when just few days ago I could rush through "Exile" on Nintendo difficulty then now I get slaughtered already in "Longest Journey" while tiptoeing in round 30 something.

I have Leather gear, Wakizashi and Buckler. I just recently got better blade and I have been upgrading everything in the forge but it seems that the more I upgrade the more difficult the game becomes. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone help please?

Thanks in advance.
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post Nov 26 2021, 23:21
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QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 26 2021, 15:08) *

OK, is just me or have the arena challenges gotten more difficult lately?

Or does it have something to do with my level? I recently reached lvl 240 and at first I noticed that my exp gain has gone near zero, which isn't actually that bad. I can understand that with greater levels the grind is being increased. What I don't understand is that when just few days ago I could rush through "Exile" on Nintendo difficulty then now I get slaughtered already in "Longest Journey" while tiptoeing in round 30 something.

I have Leather gear, Wakizashi and Buckler. I just recently got better blade and I have been upgrading everything in the forge but it seems that the more I upgrade the more difficult the game becomes. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone help please?

Thanks in advance.


Someone will be able to give a better answer, but I noticed a couple of things.
  • In both seasons of Isekai, I started out with light armor (1H first season, DW second season) and started having difficulty close to level 230, so I switched to heavy armor 1H. This seems to be typical. Some people stay with light armor, and they'll probably have better advice for you.
  • A wakizashi isn't normally the weapon of choice for 1H, except for 1H mage. You may do better with a rapier. I think Salty Fish Shop has one about your level that you could rent.
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post Nov 26 2021, 23:25
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Please giving Snom advice about what Snom should use between:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Terrible hit chance and crit chance but others stats are quite good. New loot !!!
And the current using
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Average stats, or below a bit

Snom is a Shade Niten. So it's quite confused about optimizing Damage or Crit Chance (=3=)

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post Nov 27 2021, 02:44
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QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 27 2021, 03:08) *

OK, is just me or have the arena challenges gotten more difficult lately?

Or does it have something to do with my level? I recently reached lvl 240 and at first I noticed that my exp gain has gone near zero, which isn't actually that bad. I can understand that with greater levels the grind is being increased. What I don't understand is that when just few days ago I could rush through "Exile" on Nintendo difficulty then now I get slaughtered already in "Longest Journey" while tiptoeing in round 30 something.

I have Leather gear, Wakizashi and Buckler. I just recently got better blade and I have been upgrading everything in the forge but it seems that the more I upgrade the more difficult the game becomes. What am I doing wrong? Can anyone help please?

Thanks in advance.

Do you soulfuse your eq.???
If not you probably outleveled your eq. already so maybe it's time to replace them...

QUOTE(shote1369 @ Nov 27 2021, 04:25) *

Please giving Snom advice about what Snom should use between:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Terrible hit chance and crit chance but others stats are quite good. New loot !!!
And the current using
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Average stats, or below a bit

Snom is a Shade Niten. So it's quite confused about optimizing Damage or Crit Chance (=3=)

IMO the new one is better...
The hit chance and crit chance difference are actually small as the range is quite narrow to begin with...
Probably the main downside is the DEX, as you'd lose ~11 point there when fully forged...
I don't know how much niten really value DEX so maybe someone else will give you better answer...
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post Nov 27 2021, 19:23
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Nov 27 2021, 05:25) *

Please give Snom advice about what Snom should use between:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Terrible hit chance and crit chance but others stats are quite good. New loot !!!
And the current using
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Average stats, or below a bit

Snom is a Shade Niten. So it's quite confused about optimizing Damage or Crit Chance (=3=)


I'd say the new one is definitely better.

Hit chance is not that important, both shade & power armor will grant you a 200% hit chance in the end (and a little bit of forging if you can't get rest of needed hit chance from your PAB).

Crit chance might look awful, but if you check "Fully Forged Scaled" you will see the absolute difference between them is only 0.5%. You will get the idea.

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post Nov 27 2021, 19:44
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QUOTE(jantch @ Nov 26 2021, 23:21) *

Someone will be able to give a better answer, but I noticed a couple of things.
  • In both seasons of Isekai, I started out with light armor (1H first season, DW second season) and started having difficulty close to level 230, so I switched to heavy armor 1H. This seems to be typical. Some people stay with light armor, and they'll probably have better advice for you.
  • A wakizashi isn't normally the weapon of choice for 1H, except for 1H mage. You may do better with a rapier. I think Salty Fish Shop has one about your level that you could rent.


Thanks for your reply.

I started off with heavy armor in the beginning until I got killed. I found it to make me too slow and the armor didn't help when I got hit all the time. That's why I switched to light armor. I think I had long or short sword in the beginning and switched to faster weapon because that looked to be also too slow for the monsters. Another thing is that it seemed that it was quite impossible to manage without any magic usage but even casting the defensive spells seemed to be hampered by the heavy armor.

So the idea was to become as fast as possible, stunning everyone with the shield and bleeding everyone out with the fast blade. I have no time to scan and analyze everything. Instead getting fast feel who bleeds and who doesn't gives quite good idea who to get out first. At the same time having all the buffs on while doing so. Having high block, parry and counter-attack rate, high critical hit and evade chance, would compensate for the weak weapon and armor. At least that was the idea.

But I'll try the rapier and heavy armor once again as you suggested. Once I get the suite together, that is.
I thought mages used staffs or something?
What's Salty Fish Shop and where can I find it?

Also: You said that you switched gears something about lvl 230 yourself? Does it has anything to do what kind of monsters we encounter at certain levels or why else this would matter? And when people upgrade their monsters then the level threshold will change with that? Or what's with that?

QUOTE(Greshnik @ Nov 27 2021, 02:44) *

Do you soulfuse your eq.???
If not you probably outleveled your eq. already so maybe it's time to replace them...


I had one piece soulfused but since I got better one, I replaced it. I constantly check for better loot and replace my old gear. Soulfusing is difficult since there never is enough fragments to go around so right now only my shield remains soulfused. Other equipment isn't that out of date except for one.

But what do you think, is it worth to go on the Arena at all or should I do Item Worlds? I don't really care about exp, I'm more interested in loot and gear but if I turn down the difficulty the drops go away with the exp. What should I do? Thanks.
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post Nov 27 2021, 19:52
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Nov 26 2021, 21:25) *

Please giving Snom advice about what Snom should use between:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Terrible hit chance and crit chance but others stats are quite good. New loot !!!
And the current using
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter - Average stats, or below a bit

Snom is a Shade Niten. So it's quite confused about optimizing Damage or Crit Chance (=3=)


If both were not forged, then first one is better, but since second already heavily forged... If you break second for resources you would lose at very least 7 bindings of slaughter + other stuff, not sure if its worth switching.

The lesson here: dont forge junk.
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post Nov 27 2021, 20:10
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QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 27 2021, 12:44) *

But I'll try the rapier and heavy armor once again as you suggested. Once I get the suite together, that is.
I thought mages used staffs or something?
Usually, they do. IH mage has less magic for offense, and relies on block and parry (buckler and waki) for added defense. Some people use it for a transition between 1H and mage.
QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 27 2021, 12:44) *

What's Salty Fish Shop and where can I find it?
Salty Fish Shop
Let me know if you need help with credits for a deposit.
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Also: You said that you switched gears something about lvl 230 yourself? Does it has anything to do what kind of monsters we encounter at certain levels or why else this would matter? And when people upgrade their monsters then the level threshold will change with that? Or what's with that?
I don't know. Maybe monsters, maybe how effective abilities are at certain levels, maybe something else. I'm not as skilled at melee as a lot of the people here are, so part of it could be making adjustments to playing style.
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post Nov 27 2021, 20:35
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QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 27 2021, 17:44) *

So the idea was to become as fast as possible, stunning everyone with the shield and bleeding everyone out with the fast blade. I have no time to scan and analyze everything. Instead getting fast feel who bleeds and who doesn't gives quite good idea who to get out first. At the same time having all the buffs on while doing so. Having high block, parry and counter-attack rate, high critical hit and evade chance, would compensate for the weak weapon and armor. At least that was the idea.


"Fastest" melee should be wakizashi of the swiftness (with Swift Strike IW) + full agile shade set of armor + agile buckler of the barrier + use scrolls of swiftness(it grant better haste buff). It would have highest attack speed, but wouldnt be the fastest clear speed over all posible melee builds.

Though thats for 1h, i think dw with dual waki of the swiftness(both with Swift Strike IW ofc) would be even faster, but this is madness... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post Nov 27 2021, 20:40
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Though thats for 1h, i think dw with dual waki of the swiftness(both with Swift Strike IW ofc) would be even faster, but this is madness... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)


You can become the fastest dual waki wielder with a set like this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif):

Legendary Shocking Wakizashi of the Battlecaster
Legendary Shocking Wakizashi of the Nimble
Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Mjolnir
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Charged Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Mjolnir
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Mjolnir

But in the end it is not the melee anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 28 2021, 03:27
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QUOTE(Paraphiliac @ Nov 28 2021, 00:44) *

But what do you think, is it worth to go on the Arena at all or should I do Item Worlds? I don't really care about exp, I'm more interested in loot and gear but if I turn down the difficulty the drops go away with the exp. What should I do? Thanks.

IMO low lv. player will be better finishing all available arena rather than doing IW...
Sure IW and GF gives off the illusion of having better drop rate due to higher monster density compared to arena, but except when you already have a really high lv. of drop training I think arena are still more profitable...
If you really don't want the extra exp, just keep your stamina under 60...
And if you still have time and energy, doing a few round of GF probably better...

Or better yet, maybe its time to rest and get away from this clicky game before it sucks you in as OnceForAll's signature says... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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