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Oct 30 2021, 03:48
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sigo8
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Oct 29 2021, 19:03)  Maybe there is a certain point where a few lv of scavenger will be better than unlocking a new monster slot, but I'm not sure if that already researched before...
It actually really simple, an upgrade of Scavenger is worth a 40th of a monster (2.5% gift factor), so have your Scavenger levels equal to `floor(slot_unlock_cost / if(gold_star, 80, 40))`. Also remember to upgrade all the other Chaos upgrades one level before every fifth level of Scavenger. Before because Scavenger only gives GF so for levels that give the same GF/T the other upgrades are superior.
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Oct 30 2021, 14:14
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Mindflayer88
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I see. I guess I'll start mass production then.
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Oct 31 2021, 03:26
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Ransotengai
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Greetings and salutations, I've been putting a lot of credits, time and effort (mainly IW) into this little fellow: Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Balance(a lot here is a relative term, It's a lot to me since I'm weak and poor), and then it hit me that it might not be worth the effort to begin with. So can some tell me if it is good and why? and if I should upgrade more? (I didn't upgrade wind spell damage because the wiki says: "Elemental Strikes are unaffected by Spell Damage Bonus stats.", Source: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Basics#Elemental_Strikes). TL;DR: how can I judge an equipment? (and yes, I'm using the Live Percentile Ranges script, but it's all a punch of numbers to me)Also, since I'm already here. Can someone share their Custom Font (family, size, weight, etc..), since apparently it's a must with Live Percentile Ranges script. This post has been edited by Ransotengai: Oct 31 2021, 04:34
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Oct 31 2021, 03:41
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jantch
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Oct 30 2021, 21:26)  Also, since I'm already here. Can someone share their Custom Font (family, size, weight, etc..), since apparently it's a must with Live Percentile Ranges script.
 A simple/boring font, but it works, and I already had the image attached to this topic.
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Oct 31 2021, 04:30
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Ransotengai
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QUOTE(jantch @ Oct 31 2021, 03:41)   A simple/boring font, but it works, and I already had the image attached to this topic. Thnx m8
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Oct 31 2021, 12:05
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Oct 30 2021, 08:48)  It actually really simple, an upgrade of Scavenger is worth a 40th of a monster (2.5% gift factor), so have your Scavenger levels equal to `floor(slot_unlock_cost / if(gold_star, 80, 40))`.
I see... So it is probably better to add 1 lv. of scavenger every 40 slot unlocked, right??? Thanks for confirmation... QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Oct 31 2021, 08:26)  ~snip~
IMO it is good enough for temporary use... The near peerless adb make it roughly the same with midrange leg. rapier of slaughter's adb, though it still fell short when compared to low adb leg shortsword of slaughter like this one... But you must remember that imperil spam is needed for shortsword to become competitive with rapier... Without imperil spam, shortsword will perform significantly worse than rapier... My suggestion is you could use it temporarily until you find yourself a better leg rapier/shortsword of slaughter... I won't bother spend bindings and amnesia shard for it, though a simple IW10 to get void strike is still nice to have... This post has been edited by Greshnik: Oct 31 2021, 12:07
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Oct 31 2021, 15:45
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killi890
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Oct 31 2021, 11:05) 
But you must remember that imperil spam is needed for shortsword to become competitive with rapier... Without imperil spam, shortsword will perform significantly worse than rapier... have...
Even that isn't really true, unless you are not fighting school girl arenas AND are really strong. Short Sword has fairly high attack and bleed, which makes it interesting to spread out hits. To do that however, you need to be really tanky @pfudor or play on lower difficulties. Pretty much impossible unless you are very high level. (beats me why block and parry increase with level.. that makes absolutely zero sense but whatsoever) But even then, against school girls the weapon will always perform badly. It's incompatible with vital strike's bleed, overwriting it and as such heavily reducing vital strike's damage. As far as I'm concerned, short swords are fine low level, where it may not matter much yet, and perhaps on very high level under specific conditions. Unfortunately outside of that, a Rapier will be better. At level 300, you REALLY want a Rapier when you have typical 1h equip. You can maybe low difficulty run the level 225 and 250 arenas and avoid the issue, but with the level 300 arena it'll be starting to get very annoying very fast. That said, most of this should become quickly apparent when one starts using a sword in the level 300 arena. I can speak from experience: It's not pretty.
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Oct 31 2021, 20:07
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Noni
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Oct 31 2021, 14:45)  Even that isn't really true, unless you are not fighting school girl arenas AND are really strong.
Short Sword has fairly high attack and bleed, which makes it interesting to spread out hits. To do that however, you need to be really tanky @pfudor or play on lower difficulties. Pretty much impossible unless you are very high level. (beats me why block and parry increase with level.. that makes absolutely zero sense but whatsoever) But even then, against school girls the weapon will always perform badly. It's incompatible with vital strike's bleed, overwriting it and as such heavily reducing vital strike's damage. As far as I'm concerned, short swords are fine low level, where it may not matter much yet, and perhaps on very high level under specific conditions. Unfortunately outside of that, a Rapier will be better. At level 300, you REALLY want a Rapier when you have typical 1h equip. You can maybe low difficulty run the level 225 and 250 arenas and avoid the issue, but with the level 300 arena it'll be starting to get very annoying very fast. That said, most of this should become quickly apparent when one starts using a sword in the level 300 arena. I can speak from experience: It's not pretty.
Extensive research so far showed that shortsword can be as good as rapier in any arena. Imperil is fastest, either way, and imperil makes penetrating armor less impressive. So feel free to jump on the I-Want-A-Rapier- bandwagon, but don't say that shortsword is worse unless you can show new extensive research that proves it.
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Oct 31 2021, 22:24
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Yakhont69
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im at 86 now, is equipment upgrade a must now? for some reason i can't find low grade metals. Light armor katana weeb build btw.
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Oct 31 2021, 22:43
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Noni
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QUOTE(Yakhont69 @ Oct 31 2021, 21:24)  im at 86 now, is equipment upgrade a must now? for some reason i can't find low grade metals. Light armor katana weeb build btw.
No. Just replace your gear with what you drop
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Nov 1 2021, 01:57
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Ransotengai
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Greetings and salutations, I've been putting a lot of credits, time and effort (mainly IW) into this little fellow: Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Balance (a lot here is a relative term, It's a lot to me since I'm weak and poor), and then it hit me that it might not be worth the effort to begin with. So can some tell me if it is good and why? and if I should upgrade more? (I didn't upgrade wind spell damage because the wiki says: "Elemental Strikes are unaffected by Spell Damage Bonus stats.", Source: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Basics#Elemental_Strikes). TL;DR: how can I judge an equipment? (and yes, I'm using the Live Percentile Ranges script, but it's all a punch of numbers to me). 1st Edit: This is a copy of my previous post, I ment to post it in the Live Percentile script thread, and now I can't delet it from here (can you even delet a post?). 2nd Edit: I did post this in the Live Percentile script thread, and after going there I realised it was moved here (and no, I am not high). This post has been edited by Ransotengai: Nov 1 2021, 02:28
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Nov 1 2021, 02:49
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Oct 31 2021, 20:45)  Even that isn't really true, unless you are not fighting school girl arenas AND are really strong.
Short Sword has fairly high attack and bleed, which makes it interesting to spread out hits. To do that however, you need to be really tanky @pfudor or play on lower difficulties. Pretty much impossible unless you are very high level. (beats me why block and parry increase with level.. that makes absolutely zero sense but whatsoever) But even then, against school girls the weapon will always perform badly. It's incompatible with vital strike's bleed, overwriting it and as such heavily reducing vital strike's damage. As far as I'm concerned, short swords are fine low level, where it may not matter much yet, and perhaps on very high level under specific conditions. Unfortunately outside of that, a Rapier will be better. At level 300, you REALLY want a Rapier when you have typical 1h equip. You can maybe low difficulty run the level 225 and 250 arenas and avoid the issue, but with the level 300 arena it'll be starting to get very annoying very fast. That said, most of this should become quickly apparent when one starts using a sword in the level 300 arena. I can speak from experience: It's not pretty.
The only problem I could think of for low lv. players is that they couldn't spam imperil efficiently due to their low dep prof and magic hit chance... Dep prof will improve naturally if you cast weaken/imperil/silence at least once every round, while magic hit chance could be compensated with aether shard... Also, you'll need at least lv. 310 imperil ability to get 0 cd imperils... Beyond that point, it is just as Noni said... Imperil shortsword could become competitive with rapier, even with imperil rapier due to imperil+PA is kinda overkill for normal monster... If I'm gonna rate them... Shortsword = 6 Rapier = 8 Imperil Shortsword = 9 Imperil Rapier = 9.5 (maybe even less)
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Nov 1 2021, 08:17
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,171
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Nov 1 2021, 00:57)  Greetings and salutations, I've been putting a lot of credits, time and effort (mainly IW) into this little fellow: Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Balance (a lot here is a relative term, It's a lot to me since I'm weak and poor), and then it hit me that it might not be worth the effort to begin with. So can some tell me if it is good and why? and if I should upgrade more? (I didn't upgrade wind spell damage because the wiki says: "Elemental Strikes are unaffected by Spell Damage Bonus stats.", Source: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Basics#Elemental_Strikes). TL;DR: how can I judge an equipment? (and yes, I'm using the Live Percentile Ranges script, but it's all a punch of numbers to me). 1st Edit: This is a copy of my previous post, I ment to post it in the Live Percentile script thread, and now I can't delet it from here (can you even delet a post?). 2nd Edit: I did post this in the Live Percentile script thread, and after going there I realised it was moved here (and no, I am not high). The weapon is quite good, and you can always forge to 5 with no regret. How to judge an equipment? Slaughter is the suffix you want. Rapier or Shortsword, both work fine combined with imperil. Then, if you look at the numbers that the script shows you, they say how close it is to Peerless. Peerless is the perfect Legendary, with all stats at 100%. 0% is the lowest that is possible on a Legendary. For 1h weapons, ADB is the most important stat, 2nd is Parry. Edits: - you can't delete a post, but I can. If you want a post deleted, just PM me - well you've found it now, good This post has been edited by Noni: Nov 1 2021, 09:38
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Nov 1 2021, 22:41
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neil0099
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Just curious question, I was able to gather about 2m to 3m credits by saleing all the trophies and thing I got from my arena run, what I want to know is at my level I found myself clearing arena pretty slow with my 1h build which the main weapon I got is https://hentaiverse.org/equip/276527918/5ab91fe457 this, since I can't really find any weapon that I can buy at my level, but on the other hand I am closing up to level 300 should I maintain saving credit for the transition to mage or there is thing I should consider buying?
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Nov 1 2021, 23:06
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,171
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QUOTE(neil0099 @ Nov 1 2021, 21:41)  Just curious question, I was able to gather about 2m to 3m credits by saleing all the trophies and thing I got from my arena run, what I want to know is at my level I found myself clearing arena pretty slow with my 1h build which the main weapon I got is https://hentaiverse.org/equip/276527918/5ab91fe457 this, since I can't really find any weapon that I can buy at my level, but on the other hand I am closing up to level 300 should I maintain saving credit for the transition to mage or there is thing I should consider buying? mage? Seems everyone wants to play mage these days... So expensive to get it going, though. That magnificent is very useful as off-hand for Dual Wield
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Nov 1 2021, 23:19
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neil0099
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is dual wield really effective at 283 level?, and what build you would suggest if it is useable, and is there any suggestion you would have on what should I spend my credit on, since I am struggling on whether or not I should save them for future, or improve my equipment right now
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Nov 1 2021, 23:24
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(neil0099 @ Nov 1 2021, 22:19)  is dual wield really effective at 283 level?, and what build you would suggest if it is useable, and is there any suggestion you would have on what should I spend my credit on, since I am struggling on whether or not I should save them for future, or improve my equipment right now
I didn't save money when I was low level. You can just have fun if you want, invest in perks and training. Personally, I think DW is a fun style, which is pretty effective. Frenzied Blows is nice. Okay, 1h is easier and safer, but DW is very much feasible.
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Nov 1 2021, 23:25
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neil0099
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 1 2021, 11:24)  I didn't save money when I was low level. You can just have fun if you want, invest in perks and training. Personally, I think DW is a fun style, which is pretty effective. Frenzied Blows is nice. Okay, 1h is easier and safer, but DW is very much feasible.
Gotcha thanks for the help!
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Nov 2 2021, 02:40
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mathl33t
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You'll be able to clear schoolgirl arenas no problem, other than PGC. Make sure you have the weaken abilities for PGC and use scrolls and you'll probably survive. DWD might also need scrolls for the 3SG rounds. You'll also need scrolls for the non-SG arenas, or just 1h mage those. I still have to 1h mage IW on PFUDOR. My preferred scrolls are swiftness, protection, and shadows.
Use all five IA-able buffs all the time. Don't smack anyone with your staff. Use the highest tier fire spell that's off cooldown after imperiling everyone.
When I switched to mage with worse gear than you have now, I was getting similar turns in DWD to 1H, but noticeably faster times due to not having to think about who to vital strike. But the speed goes up pretty quickly as your proficiency and gear improve. I've used two crystallized phazons so far, and my maging is already much faster than 1H, so you don't need tons of investment to notice improvement.
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