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It does not. The only effect Tokenizer has on the Arena Clear Bonus is the change to the Chaos:Blood ratio.

The change to the ratio without changing the rate does results in small decrease to Blood token gain if you only do arenas, but I estimate the loss to be less than 1 token per Day from no Tokenizer to Tokenizer III.

I mean I got it not that long ago. And it went from commonly not getting token bonuses in the lower arenas to almost always getting one, to the point it's super rare if there's no token bonus. Heck, I don't even remember when it was the last time, the level 80 arena didn't give one, with the Tokenizer 1. (the oldest arena I still have) Same for soul fragments. It was very inconsistent, now it basically gives one when it's not on cooldown.

It's a very obvious effect.
edit: Did some Konata robs during the event recently as well, and those would generally also drop token bonuses, something that should be like a 50/50 (?) without it.

This post has been edited by killi890: Oct 7 2021, 18:58

When the Isekai season is finished, I know that the remaining items in the inventory will be "converted" into credits, which will be transferred to Persistent.

My question is: What is the value of the items? Would it be the same sale value for Bazaar (for example, high-grade material for 50 credits each)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

When the Isekai season is finished, I know that the remaining items in the inventory will be "converted" into credits, which will be transferred to Persistent.

My question is: What is the value of the items? Would it be the same sale value for Bazaar (for example, high-grade material for 50 credits each)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Exactly. Sad but true (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

When the Isekai season is finished, I know that the remaining items in the inventory will be "converted" into credits, which will be transferred to Persistent.

My question is: What is the value of the items? Would it be the same sale value for Bazaar (for example, high-grade material for 50 credits each)? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

For me, I mostly use Isekai to farm trophies for the Shrine, since I don't have the Snowflake hath perk in Persistent. However, the arena clear credit bonuses do provide a nice chunk of credits when the conversion occurs.

Exactly. Sad but true (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This is really very sad... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

It could pay half the minimum value of the Item Shop Bot, which, in the case of high-grade material, would be 2500 credits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

For me, I mostly use Isekai to farm trophies for the Shrine, since I don't have the Snowflake hath perk in Persistent. However, the arena clear credit bonuses do provide a nice chunk of credits when the conversion occurs.

I was playing Isekai just to have some profit, but due to lack of time, I stopped playing almost 2 months ago. I did this question because I still have a few materials to sell.

And for me, winning a peerless voucher is useless because if the equipment I can get is very good, I can not sell, and if I decide to use it, I'll have to do the item world myself (it's very laborious). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Item World is generally pretty easy, I did most of my own since level 200 (although it was a struggle until a bit after level 300). I think it is primarily a matter of getting used to the mindset of having to do something potentially unlimited times to get a desired result, or accepting a slightly suboptimal result.

It's a matter of getting mentally adjusted, I think. In reality you often get a perfect or excellent result with minimal or reasonable time invested.

Plus with the item soulfused, don't forget that your item world time is cut in half. Although in practice, this can occasionally turn into a slight problem because you'll have to do more of the beginning runs at lower difficulty to limit yourself to getting 2 potencies per run. Oh yeah, and you'll waste double the amnesia shards if you don't have Dark Descent.

When sending weapons and armor pieces to auction, does having them fully upgraded through Item World help with their ability to be sold?

When sending weapons and armor pieces to auction, does having them fully upgraded through Item World help with their ability to be sold?

To iw an equipment you need extra cost, but usually you cannot recover the cost since some consumers may not like the ties your equipment gets.

When sending weapons and armor pieces to auction, does having them fully upgraded through Item World help with their ability to be sold?

most of the time it does nothing for the price... Good IW should have some value though, but you rarely see that reflected in the sales price.

I'm considering using one of these two shields in the long term.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/275210914/29ec69c352
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/269010766/7123231176

One shield has agility instead of endurance, but its block rate is also a bit higher. I've heard that, as you level up with 1H, you start to use fewer potions, which I assume means less healing. If healing becomes less necessary as you get stronger, does that mean that you can forgo the endurance PAB if it means that some other important stats will be slightly better? Or would it be better to go with the SDE shield above all?

Also, I'm currently debating between using one of these weapons.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274951390/b2a14882a2
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274644414/c0d3ec5c52

One is a tempestuous rapier. The other is a demonic shortsword. Apart from that, their stats seem fairly comparable to me (other than parry chance, not sure if that makes a big difference). I usually imperil everything, and I've heard that that makes the sword about equal to the rapier, but I'm wondering how much the demonic prefix really helps, particularly in SG arenas where the SGs are focused down first. Against SGs, how much improvement can one expect over non-demonic/hallowed? Is it enough to consider using the shortsword above the rapier?

This post has been edited by GREGRE: Oct 10 2021, 17:34

I'm considering using one of these two shields in the long term.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/275210914/29ec69c352
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/269010766/7123231176

One shield has agility instead of endurance, but its block rate is also a bit higher. I've heard that, as you level up with 1H, you start to use fewer potions, which I assume means less healing. If healing becomes less necessary as you get stronger, does that mean that you can forgo the endurance PAB if it means that some other important stats will be slightly better? Or would it be better to go with the SDE shield above all?

Also, I'm currently debating between using one of these weapons.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274951390/b2a14882a2
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274644414/c0d3ec5c52
One is a tempestuous rapier. The other is a demonic shortsword. Apart from that, their stats seem fairly comparable to me (other than parry chance, not sure if that makes a big difference). I usually imperil everything, and I've heard that that makes the sword about equal to the rapier, but I'm wondering how much the demonic prefix really helps, particularly in SG arenas where the SGs are focused down first. Against SGs, how much improvement can one expect over non-demonic/hallowed? Is it enough to consider using the shortsword above the rapier?

At your level, I would value block over lower agility, so I'd go with the high-block SDA shield. End game, you'd want a similar block SDE, but that's still a long way ahead so I wouldn't try to optimize for that right now.

As you play imperil 1h style, the shortsword will probably perform a little bit better, because of the higher parry chance, and overall better stats. Decondelite did a lot of reseach on shortsword style, and if you know how to use it, it will be on-par with rapier or maybe better in some cases. So in this case, with such stats: shortsword is what I would choose.


This post has been edited by Noni: Oct 10 2021, 18:25

I'm considering using one of these two shields in the long term.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/275210914/29ec69c352
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/269010766/7123231176

They should perform the same. One shield have more STR(more offence) and have END which is purely defensive stat, another have more block which is defensive-offensive parameter(for 1h at least), but also have AGI which is mostly dead weight for 1h heavy. Maybe the one with higher block is better, but difference in clear speed should not be noticeable.

Or you can wait until someone throw on bazaar SDE shield with 90+ block. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


As for dark/holy vs elemental strike, difference is there, its measurable, about 2% difference in turn count when clearing DwD, it is hard to measure but dark/holy consistently faster for DwD.
And rapier for lazy people, it allow you to do less actions while maintaining same clearing speed.

At your level, I would value block over lower agility, so I'd go with the high-block SDA shield. End game, you'd want a similar block SDE, but that's still a long way ahead so I wouldn't try to optimize for that right now.

As you play imperil 1h style, the shortsword will probably perform a little bit better, because of the higher parry chance, and overall better stats. Decondelite did a lot of reseach on shortsword style, and if you know how to use it, it will be on-par with rapier or maybe better in some cases. So in this case, with such stats: shortsword is what I would choose.

They should perform the same. One shield have more STR(more offence) and have END which is purely defensive stat, another have more block which is defensive-offensive parameter(for 1h at least), but also have AGI which is mostly dead weight for 1h heavy. Maybe the one with higher block is better, but difference in clear speed should not be noticeable.

Or you can wait until someone throw on bazaar SDE shield with 90+ block. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
As for dark/holy vs elemental strike, difference is there, its measurable, about 2% difference in turn count when clearing DwD, it is hard to measure but dark/holy consistently faster for DwD.
And rapier for lazy people, it allow you to do less actions while maintaining same clearing speed.

Thanks! This is a lot of good information. Regarding the shield, I'll definitely go with the SDA for now. I'll still look for a good SDE of course, but they're hard to find for cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I've been going through Decondelite's posts and they're very insightful. It seems like, while shortsword can match rapier, I might need to change my equips and start using shards if I want to make effective use of it (my armor is a subpar unforged power of slaughter set). I think I will need to give it a little more thought.

This post has been edited by GREGRE: Oct 10 2021, 19:46

I kinda curious, between haste and shadow veil, which one is less detrimental for 1H???
I know that having more atk speed and evade will reduce your chance to counter, which lead to more turns counts...
But which one have more impact, more atk speed or more evade???

Or you can wait until someone throw on bazaar SDE shield with 90+ block. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
As for dark/holy vs elemental strike, difference is there, its measurable, about 2% difference in turn count when clearing DwD, it is hard to measure but dark/holy consistently faster for DwD.
And rapier for lazy people, it allow you to do less actions while maintaining same clearing speed.

holy/dark is only faster on SG arena...
On other arena/IW/GF, I think elemental strike will be faster because imperils gives 15% more elemental reduction than holy/dark...
So probably the best way is to have holy/demonic rapier for SG arena and elemental shortsword for others... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Because while PA + imperils is kinda overkill for normal mobs, it still has benefit for SG with their beefy HP anyway...

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Oct 11 2021, 02:25

I kinda curious, between haste and shadow veil, which one is less detrimental for 1H???
I know that having more atk speed and evade will reduce your chance to counter, which lead to more turns counts...
But which one have more impact, more atk speed or more evade???

I do not know if this helps, but I did some simple tests last year:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5699559

holy/dark is only faster on SG arena...

Yes, i can only say about DwD.
When i was more active i played only 3 SG arenas which available at my level, occasionally IW, never grindfest. So i mostly paid attention on DwD because it take half of daily grind time.



And yes, haste have higher impact on clear speed, but it also have higher impact on survivability of 1h(because stun last longer).

I've been accumulating GP for some time now, and I don't really use it for anything outside of HV. Is it better to sell it off in the GP exchange or should I just spend it on the lotteries (even though I've never won any of them)?

I do not know if this helps, but I did some simple tests last year:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5699559

Ah...
I didn't realize that you already share it before...
So basically haste gives more defensive benefit at the cost of more turn...
While shadow veil don't increase the turn, but it also only gives a little more survivability...

And yes, haste have higher impact on clear speed, but it also have higher impact on survivability of 1h(because stun last longer).

yeah...
Basara results show it...
Probably just gonna keep haste on quickbar in case I need it when on late GF round...

hi somebody knows why i can´t see the 300 battle arena, in the past should be abottom for that but, i change the zoom i reset the letters siza and nothing :V
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hi somebody knows why i can´t see the 300 battle arena, in the past should be abottom for that but, i change the zoom i reset the letters siza and nothing :V

Because you're not level 300 yet? It looks like ypu're 298.

Maybe you've been seeing it on Isekai.