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post Sep 27 2021, 11:45
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Sep 27 2021, 09:34) *

I actually have a question about Superlatanium's auctions. A while back, I read something about there being a hacking. Has the issue been resolved and is it safe to send items to Superlatanium again?


This was never an issue with Superlatanium's auctions; it was a case where a player's account was accessed without his knowledge and his equipment sent to auction by the attacker in an attempt to disrupt the account as much as possible.

But the auction itself is safe and Superlatanium has not been compromised in any way.
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post Sep 27 2021, 19:26
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I did iw 10 today and got 5+4 luckily
But it's an ethereal and it got wind strike.
What should I do? Is it okay using frost spike shield with it?
I'll use infusion of dark before doing sg arenas.
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post Sep 27 2021, 19:35
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Sep 27 2021, 19:26) *

I did iw 10 today and got 5+4 luckily
But it's an ethereal and it got wind strike.
What should I do? Is it okay using frost spike shield with it?
I'll use infusion of dark before doing sg arenas.

It's slower, but otherwise there's no issue. I never use infusions there, so I just have a simple holy strike and it works just fine.

The thing is, the strikes only trigger one normal attacks. No counter, no domino, but offhand works (with usual pen I think). A lot of damage should also come from skills. Especially for 1h vital strike is going to be used on CD. Butcher and Fatality help with skills. Elemental strikes don't.

That said, in the end that's what it always comes down to. Not having butcher/Fatality/Overpower 5? It's slower. Not having the right elemental strike? It's slower. But speed isn't necessarily that important, as long as you can fulfill your goals. Dark and Holy Strike are so beloved, because nobody likes the hyper HP inflated school girl HP sponges. That's all. I'm probably not the only one who'd LOVE if the Isekai change of them having half HP would be introduced in persistent. All they do is waste time.

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post Sep 28 2021, 00:11
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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Sep 26 2021, 21:35) *

Reading the mage equip guide, it seemed to me like, while willow is generally the best, redwood is also usable as well (at least for arenas; I don't have any interest in doing fest/IW as of right now). So I assumed that this staff is at least somewhat useful for that.

Based on what you're saying, it sounds to me like this is a fairly mediocre staff due to the low MDB, but it could still be good for a beginner due to the suffix. Let me know if that's not correct. Thanks for the info!


Your assumption is mostly correct; but as Noni said, it depends on various factors. Not just relative staff stas, but also player level (which is connected to prof). For the same set (staff+equips), reaching the required elem prof is somewhat easier at lower levels, for instance, but Damage is always important (and increasingly so when leveling up). Also to be considered is forging. FOrging Damage is much more costly then forging Elemprof due to costly bindings.

So for instance at low-mid level a staff "of elementalist" can be used with some Elem forge with a 4+1 set instead of the 3-2 necessary for a "destruction" staff. The additional phase will help to get some of the Dmg you loose by not using "Destruction" staff.

That said, MDB of 20% on an Elem staff is really low even for a cheap staff. But you can still use it while waiting to get a better one; below L.350 there are people who have to use Mag staves, and they manage to do Arenas (though not on PFUDOR usually).

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post Sep 28 2021, 00:45
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Sep 27 2021, 02:45) *

This was never an issue with Superlatanium's auctions; it was a case where a player's account was accessed without his knowledge and his equipment sent to auction by the attacker in an attempt to disrupt the account as much as possible.

But the auction itself is safe and Superlatanium has not been compromised in any way.


Thank you for clearing up my concerns and for explaining the situation that happened. I didn't think that was a thing, but I guess it could still happen.
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post Sep 28 2021, 03:37
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Sep 27 2021, 09:35) *

Not having butcher/Fatality/Overpower 5? It's slower. Not having the right elemental strike? It's slower. But speed isn't necessarily that important, as long as you can fulfill your goals.

Thanks. Actually speed isn't that important. I'm okay with it.
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post Sep 30 2021, 01:44
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According to wiki:
spell damage
the formula is Spell Damage =MBD * EDB * others

But HV Utils's magic score=MBD * (1 + EDB) * others. And IIRC, I've seen a version of the spell damage formula somewhere before , which is also MBD*(1+EDB) .

So which one is correct?
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post Sep 30 2021, 03:53
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At what level should I start buying things in ISEKAI mode? I'm already level 132 but I'm leveling really really fast. I'm maining Niten but every piece is average or superior. I need legendary but I don't want to buy something that I will use for just 20 or 30 levels.
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post Sep 30 2021, 04:24
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QUOTE(aaadka @ Sep 29 2021, 23:44) *

According to wiki:
spell damage
the formula is Spell Damage =MBD * EDB * others

But HV Utils's magic score=MBD * (1 + EDB) * others. And IIRC, I've seen a version of the spell damage formula somewhere before , which is also MBD*(1+EDB) .

So which one is correct?


CODE
MBD * (1 + EDB/100) * others


EDB is %, 1.0 = 100%(2.0 = 200%, 0.5 = 50%, etc), EDB is a bonus, base is 100% thats what you have when you see 0% EDB, so 1.0 + EDB / 100.0 is your multiplier.
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post Sep 30 2021, 07:26
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Sep 30 2021, 04:24) *

CODE
MBD * (1 + EDB/100) * others


EDB is %, 1.0 = 100%(2.0 = 200%, 0.5 = 50%, etc), EDB is a bonus, base is 100% thats what you have when you see 0% EDB, so 1.0 + EDB / 100.0 is your multiplier.

I updated the wiki with the explanation.
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post Oct 1 2021, 10:57
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QUOTE(Voxels @ Sep 30 2021, 04:53) *

At what level should I start buying things in ISEKAI mode? I'm already level 132 but I'm leveling really really fast. I'm maining Niten but every piece is average or superior. I need legendary but I don't want to buy something that I will use for just 20 or 30 levels.


honestly i think this depends on how much you want to spend, your reason for playing it (top 10, just the stat points, or just to make some extra credits), and if your planning to take it back to persistent as if you soulfuse it then it will level with you anyway.

i have 3 legendary dropped pieces, 2 mag bought pieces, 1 mag drop and 1 bought from bazar.
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post Oct 2 2021, 00:49
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Another quick question: Whats the price range of Energy Drinks nowadays? I remember that last year it was close to 80k.


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post Oct 2 2021, 00:53
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QUOTE(Voxels @ Oct 1 2021, 23:49) *

Another quick question: Whats the price range of Energy Drinks nowadays? I remember that last year it was close to 80k.


[hvmarket.xyz] https://hvmarket.xyz/exchange/11401/
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post Oct 2 2021, 00:54
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Disregard my previous post, I was being stupid and didn't check the wtb tab (forgot it existed).

90k for energy drinks! I'm rich then!
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post Oct 5 2021, 23:26
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Is it necessary to fully purchase the hath perks regarding the higher chance of Token drops? I remember reading a forum post somewhere that said it was not necessary to purchase all the tiers for the crystal and token drop hath perks.
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post Oct 6 2021, 04:09
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Oct 6 2021, 04:26) *

Is it necessary to fully purchase the hath perks regarding the higher chance of Token drops? I remember reading a forum post somewhere that said it was not necessary to purchase all the tiers for the crystal and token drop hath perks.
HVMarket and IW services practically reduce All HV-related perks beside Postage Paid, Innate Arcana, and Daemon Duality to luxury buys. Unless you're a fanatical HV player who does a ton of Grindfest, it's not recommended to purchase more than one level of Tokenizer and any level of Crystarium.
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post Oct 6 2021, 05:12
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QUOTE(amaimono @ Oct 6 2021, 10:09) *

HVMarket and IW services practically reduce All HV-related perks beside Postage Paid, Innate Arcana, and Daemon Duality to luxury buys. Unless you're a fanatical HV player who does a ton of Grindfest, it's not recommended to purchase more than one level of Tokenizer and any level of Crystarium.


Actually, if you are able to finish Grindfest under IWBTH or PFDOUR difficulty, and you'd like to play it daily (even if once per day), you will want as many Crystarium levels as possible.
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post Oct 6 2021, 05:46
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QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Oct 6 2021, 10:12) *

Actually, if you are able to finish Grindfest under IWBTH or PFDOUR difficulty, and you'd like to play it daily (even if once per day), you will want as many Crystarium levels as possible.
Honestly, I can't even imagine going through 1000 rounds of HV in a single sitting, ever. But fair enough, those grinders are no doubt the pillars of HV economy.
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post Oct 6 2021, 07:51
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Oct 5 2021, 23:26) *

Is it necessary to fully purchase the hath perks regarding the higher chance of Token drops? I remember reading a forum post somewhere that said it was not necessary to purchase all the tiers for the crystal and token drop hath perks.


Tokenizer is always going to be valuable, because what it offers to you is something you can't buy: Tokens.
That said, 2 and onwards is still a luxury buy. But most things are in the verse. Higher level training is, and most hath perks are. Heck, monsters are as well, and you only need crystals for them.

Personally I'd recommend Tokenizer 1, IF you play all arenas per day (it influences end of arena token drop-rate as well).
Innate Arcana is a must till 2 (you want spark and spirit shield) IF you play on the highest difficulty, 3 is nice as well. If you aren't doing that, you probably don't need those two spells anyway.

The rest is basically luxury. The more costly, the more luxury. If you like to play on pfudor and at least clear all arenas, Dæmon Duality 1 is a nice one, too. Though for the essentially 9 million credits you can also upgrade you gear quite a bit. Another money sink.


tl;dr: Most things in the hverse are money sinks. The more you already threw away, the more you need to throw away to get something.

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post Oct 7 2021, 07:44
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Oct 5 2021, 23:51) *

Personally I'd recommend Tokenizer 1, IF you play all arenas per day (it influences end of arena token drop-rate as well).

It does not. The only effect Tokenizer has on the Arena Clear Bonus is the change to the Chaos:Blood ratio.

The change to the ratio without changing the rate does results in small decrease to Blood token gain if you only do arenas, but I estimate the loss to be less than 1 token per Day from no Tokenizer to Tokenizer III.
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