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post Sep 25 2021, 17:38
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Sep 25 2021, 17:30) *

Just simply get a legendary one and upgrade it.


The hunt is on then, thnx m8.
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post Sep 25 2021, 18:52
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 25 2021, 12:43) *

Sounds good & thanks alot. However, I assume the upgrades to be fairly expensive,sooo should I do it this shield or wait for a better one?


Upgrading force shield is cheap, upgrading non-force shield even cheaper.
+25 for block should cost around 50-100k for that shield.
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post Sep 25 2021, 18:53
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 25 2021, 06:49) *

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Hello there!

One thing I have to add is with your deprecating proficiency so high, you could also go for a shortsword of slaughter instead of rapier of slaughter. Rapier is slightly better now, but much, much more expensive. Shortsword with imperil (once you reach level 310 for spammable imperil) is very nearly as fast, quite cheap, and eventually even surpasses rapier. You don't have to hit everybody with imperil; just get most of them.

Also get your weapon to item world 10 for void damage. Right now, your damage is reduced by both physical mitigation and slashing mitigation. With void, it's only physical mitigation. Alternatively, pick up a bunch of voidseeker shards at hvmarket.xyz.
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post Sep 25 2021, 21:25
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Hello there. I haven't played in maybe 6 years or so but I've been hooked on the game the past couple days, yet I have no idea what I should be leveling up.

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I'm guessing wisdom and int are good investments, right? Also is this longsword worth the soulfuse? I remember back then being very glad I got a void weapon but I can't remember why they were good.

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Thanks for your help in advance!

edit: forgot to say, my loadout is that 2 handed sword with heavy armor, though you can probably tell by the proficiencies.

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post Sep 25 2021, 22:28
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QUOTE(shitsucks @ Sep 25 2021, 19:25) *

Hello there. I haven't played in maybe 6 years or so but I've been hooked on the game the past couple days, yet I have no idea what I should be leveling up.


I'm guessing wisdom and int are good investments, right? Also is this longsword worth the soulfuse? I remember back then being very glad I got a void weapon but I can't remember why they were good.


Thanks for your help in advance!

edit: forgot to say, my loadout is that 2 handed sword with heavy armor, though you can probably tell by the proficiencies.


https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice is a good starting point to refresh your memory. Also seems like you're missing some scripts that may help you out. See below:-
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Scripts_%26_Tools

Would recommend getting "Live Percentile Ranges" as it will tell you how good your equipment is based on a database.

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post Sep 25 2021, 23:35
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QUOTE(shitsucks @ Sep 25 2021, 14:25) *

Hello there. I haven't played in maybe 6 years or so but I've been hooked on the game the past couple days, yet I have no idea what I should be leveling up.

I'm guessing wisdom and int are good investments, right? Also is this longsword worth the soulfuse? I remember back then being very glad I got a void weapon but I can't remember why they were good.

Thanks for your help in advance!

edit: forgot to say, my loadout is that 2 handed sword with heavy armor, though you can probably tell by the proficiencies.


Well as you can see in this page Character Stats melee doesn't really benefit from INT at all and WIS is only important for the magical mitigation and the magical accuracy + resist chance so investing in WIS a bit may be good but don't go overboard. Many seem to keep it around their level as at level 500 it barely goes over 100% magical accuracy.
As for the other stats, AGI depends on your armor. With light armor you benefit from the speed so it's nice to have but with heavy armor whatever speed you have is killed by your burden so those players usually let it drag behind for a bit, just enough to keep the physical mitigation up. STR, DEX and END will end up around the same levels for everyone as if you try to overstat you'll get hit with the exponential curve for exp required and see you can't really create big gaps without sacrificing lots of other things.

I would really refrain from soulfusing anything that isn't a legendary weapon because if you barely play you won't get your soulfrags back in any reasonable time, whereas if you play frequently you'll get rid of the weapon soon enough. I would reserve soulfusing for weapons you plan to use for a long time (that are decent) or to be able to use nice equipments 100 levels above your own. Ethereal weapons have innate void damage and no burden so they're almost a necessity for users focusing on low burden and evade. 1H users look for them as a way to being able to select the elemental strike on their weapons but for those it's mostly vanity I think.

Also as an extra, 2H and heavy armor don't play particularly well together at that level so if you happen to start struggling with survival at higher difficulties you can either change the weapon (and your style) or your armor. It's workable but as far as I know it needed high level, very good equips and quite a bit of forge on everything. Then again if you insist to keep going like this, go at it just be careful.
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post Sep 26 2021, 04:59
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 25 2021, 14:43) *

Sounds good & thanks alot. However, I assume the upgrades to be fairly expensive,sooo should I do it this shield or wait for a better one?

THIS upgrade is cheap. Buy material from [hvmarket.xyz] HVMarket plz.
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post Sep 26 2021, 17:09
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Sep 25 2021, 14:19) *

. Get a Slaughter weapon (Rapier is recommended)
. Upgrade your shield's Block Chance to Lv.25
. Change your Plate to Power
. Attribute points is not important, this game is to collect excellent equipments, not to optimise attribute points.


QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Sep 25 2021, 17:30) *

Just simply get a legendary one and upgrade it.


QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Sep 25 2021, 18:52) *

Upgrading force shield is cheap, upgrading non-force shield even cheaper.
+25 for block should cost around 50-100k for that shield.


QUOTE(sharmy @ Sep 26 2021, 04:59) *

THIS upgrade is cheap. Buy material from [hvmarket.xyz] HVMarket plz.


here is the end results: Magnificent Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier

Oh, and i just realised I have this shield: Legendary Mithril Buckler of Protection, Should I have upgraded the legendary one instead?

My ceidits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

And on a completly uunrelated topic, can someone please share their custom font settings.

Thanks boiz and galz (unless rule 29 is still valid, in that case thanks boiz only)
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post Sep 26 2021, 17:57
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 26 2021, 07:09) *

Should I have upgraded the legendary one instead?

Sure. The legendary one is better.

MOD EDIT: this is bad advice


The legendary one's block chance is lower. You may find a force shield
(Force shields have high block chance)

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post Sep 26 2021, 18:00
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Sep 26 2021, 17:57) *

Sure. The legendary one is better.


What should I do now? should I salvage the upgraded one for materias and upgrade the legendgry?
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post Sep 26 2021, 18:04
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 26 2021, 08:00) *

What should I do now? should I salvage the upgraded one for materias and upgrade the legendgry?

You can buy materials. Upgrading the shield's block chance is cheap.
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post Sep 26 2021, 18:15
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 26 2021, 12:00) *

What should I do now? should I salvage the upgraded one for materias and upgrade the legendgry?

I wouldn't. Block is the most important stat for a shield, and that's better on the magnificent one.
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post Sep 26 2021, 18:27
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QUOTE(jantch @ Sep 26 2021, 08:15) *

I wouldn't. Block is the most important stat for a shield, and that's better on the magnificent one.


With Lv26 upgrade, the mag one's base block chance is 41.08
41.28รท(1+0.2ln(3.6)) = 32.86
The leg one's base block chance is 30.69

Yes, the legendary one has a lower block chance.
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post Sep 26 2021, 19:03
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Sep 26 2021, 18:27) *

With Lv26 upgrade, the mag one's base block chance is 41.08
41.28รท(1+0.2ln(3.6)) = 32.86
The leg one's base block chance is 30.69

Yes, the legendary one has a lower block chance.

Please be careful with your advice - the people who ask here expect that experts give the answer. Your first answer may have been bad advice, as you see now yourself the block on the magnificent is much better. Most experts would agree that better block is the most important in that situation.
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post Sep 26 2021, 19:10
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QUOTE(Noni @ Sep 26 2021, 09:03) *

Please be careful with your advice - the people who ask here expect that experts give the answer. Your first answer may have been bad advice, as you see now yourself the block on the magnificent is much better. Most experts would agree that better block is the most important in that situation.

Sorry for the wrong advice - I'm not an expert yet.

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post Sep 26 2021, 20:23
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What are the most important stats to look for when judging how good a staff (and mage equipment in general) is? As an example, take this staff: https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/243730/b4aa4e7335

It has pretty bad MDB. But the EDB is pretty good, it has a middling amount of elemental proficiency, and it has pretty good rolls on deprecating proficiency/intelligence/wisdom. Which stats should I look at, and which should I ignore? Out of those that I should look at, which are the most important?
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post Sep 26 2021, 21:29
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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Sep 26 2021, 20:23) *

What are the most important stats to look for when judging how good a staff (and mage equipment in general) is? As an example, take this staff: https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/243730/b4aa4e7335

It has pretty bad MDB. But the EDB is pretty good, it has a middling amount of elemental proficiency, and it has pretty good rolls on deprecating proficiency/intelligence/wisdom. Which stats should I look at, and which should I ignore? Out of those that I should look at, which are the most important?

it's a bit more complicated than just MDB and EDB percental ranges.
1. The type of wood needs to match the element: Redwood doesn't have a boost of Elec damage. Elec mage wants willow.
2. MDB is higher for 'of destruction'. This is Elementalist, which is nice, but 20% MDB on a destruction staff is much more damage than 20% MDB on an elementalist staff. Elementalist is useful if your base prof is very low, temporary staff.
3. After 'matching' and 'good MDB and EDB', it would be nice to have high 'elemental proficiency'.
4. Others are nice to have. I would prefer 'depr. prof'. Int and wis are nice. But not a must

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post Sep 26 2021, 22:35
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QUOTE(Noni @ Sep 26 2021, 13:29) *

it's a bit more complicated than just MDB and EDB percental ranges.
1. The type of wood needs to match the element: Redwood doesn't have a boost of Elec damage. Elec mage wants willow.
2. MDB is higher for 'of destruction'. This is Elementalist, which is nice, but 20% MDB on a destruction staff is much more damage than 20% MDB on an elementalist staff. Elementalist is useful if your base prof is very low, temporary staff.
3. After 'matching' and 'good MDB and EDB', it would be nice to have high 'elemental proficiency'.
4. Others are nice to have. I would prefer 'depr. prof'. Int and wis are nice. But not a must


Reading the mage equip guide, it seemed to me like, while willow is generally the best, redwood is also usable as well (at least for arenas; I don't have any interest in doing fest/IW as of right now). So I assumed that this staff is at least somewhat useful for that.

Based on what you're saying, it sounds to me like this is a fairly mediocre staff due to the low MDB, but it could still be good for a beginner due to the suffix. Let me know if that's not correct. Thanks for the info!

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post Sep 27 2021, 00:49
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QUOTE(Ransotengai @ Sep 25 2021, 12:45) *

Sogoi, thanks alot (for the items and the advice). As for the INT, I read somewhere that you keep it at lvl-100, but I honestly thought it was useless as well.

The reason to get INT as melee is this:
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Every point invested in any attribute:
+0.2 Spirit Points
+1/600 Spirit Regen

Not the biggest of deals, but still better to have some points in INT. The general idea is to level up INT while N levels cost the same exp as 1 level of the main attributes, with N being high enough that you think it's worth to get them over a single point of the main attributes.

Take a look at this example to better understand what I'm saying:
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In this case I can level up INT 86 levels for the "same" amount of exp it takes to level a single point of SDA. For the record, It's still not enough to be worth it imo. Also keep in mind that it's still better to keep WIS higher than INT for MP and MP regen.
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post Sep 27 2021, 10:34
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I actually have a question about Superlatanium's auctions. A while back, I read something about there being a hacking. Has the issue been resolved and is it safe to send items to Superlatanium again?
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