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Hi all the experts, I have question about dying when doing PFDOR IW

I often die at about 70~round when facing 10 enemy. I wonder if improving some of the Primary attributes would make this situation better.

Strength 397
Dexterity 399
Agility 387
Endurance 421
Intelligence 406
Wisdom 401

Also, what could I do to reduce IW time span at nightmare difficulty?
Thanks to everyone that read my question (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hi all the experts, I have question about dying when doing PFDOR IW

I often die at about 70~round when facing 10 enemy. I wonder if improving some of the Primary attributes would make this situation better.

Strength 397
Dexterity 399
Agility 387
Endurance 421
Intelligence 406
Wisdom 401

Also, what could I do to reduce IW time span at nightmare difficulty?
Thanks to everyone that read my question (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1h? Too much INT for melee, it is useless unles you cast offensive spells.

With battle script(hover play) its almost imposible to die, there is function to stop attack when you on low hp or after triggering spark of life. Without it you will need to play slow to have time for reacting when hp is low or spark triggered and use restoratives.

1h? Too much INT for melee, it is useless unles you cast offensive spells.

thank you for answering Mud (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I will allocate attributes to DEX or STR from now on.
Yes I am using 1H heavy with Monsterbation script.
My current hp threshold is set to 0.4, maybe I should raise it to 0.6 when doing IW.

This post has been edited by NBRa: Sep 1 2021, 01:15

thank you for answering Mud (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I will allocate attributes to DEX or STR from now on.
Yes I am using 1H heavy with Monsterbation script.
My current hp threshold is set to 0.4, maybe I should raise it to 0.6 when doing IW.

0.4 HP threshold is already high enough IMO...
What about your eq.???
Posting your eq. will make finding the problem easier...

Also, switching to use Full Cure first will help reducing the cure usage in my experience...

Yes I am using 1H heavy with Monsterbation script.
My current hp threshold is set to 0.4, maybe I should raise it to 0.6 when doing IW.

Make sure you set checkbox "stop on spark or low vitals" in script settings. I think by default it is off.

Also cast spark of life, keep it up all the time, and restore spirit, if you do all right you should not die. Also use haste and shadow veil, haste make noticeable difference, i think it's because stun last longer.

Also, switching to use Full Cure first will help reducing the cure usage in my experience...

Thank you Greshnik, I will try using Full Cure predominantly next time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
and here's my equip:
Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Mithril Buckler of Warding
Legendary Savage Power Helmet of Protection
Peerless Jade Power Armor of Warding
Legendary Amber Power Gauntlets of Warding
Magnificent Jade Power Leggings of Protection
Legendary Zircon Power Boots of Warding
I thought the quip were mostly okay since I can PFDOR dance with dragon in 70mins
And yes I am still looking for power L.legging about my level

Also cast spark of life, keep it up all the time, and restore spirit, if you do all right you should not die. Also use haste and shadow veil, haste make noticeable difference, i think it's because stun last longer.

Thank you for more advise
I have protection, spark of life and spirit shield on my Auto-Cast Slots (and I cast haste, regen constantly), so I think I was killed after spark of life was triggered.
I believe I took down shadow veil as it reduce the charging speed when dancing with dragon, but yes I will be casting shadow veil for IW from now on, thank you so much!


BTW, I wonder if I open Innate Arcana4 but only slot 3 skills, will the upkeep for all 3 skills be reduced by 40%? Or does the upkeep reduction stays at 30% bc only 3 skills were slotted

Ah...
As I suspected, your shield is the problem...
AFAIK only buckler of barrier that is considered as alternative to force shield, even then it only as a niche one...
Try to find leg force shield for an improvement, the higher the block chance is better...
I think a decent one are cheap enough this day...

As for IA, yes...
The upkeep for 3 skills will be reduced by 40%...

I thought the quip were mostly okay since I can PFDOR dance with dragon in 70mins
And yes I am still looking for power L.legging about my level
Thank you for more advise
I have protection, spark of life and spirit shield on my Auto-Cast Slots (and I cast haste, regen constantly), so I think I was killed after spark of life was triggered.
I believe I took down shadow veil as it reduce the charging speed when dancing with dragon, but yes I will be casting shadow veil for IW from now on, thank you so much!
BTW, I wonder if I open Innate Arcana4 but only slot 3 skills, will the upkeep for all 3 skills be reduced by 40%? Or does the upkeep reduction stays at 30% bc only 3 skills were slotted

Your equip is OK for x20 AR but not good enough for x20 GFest or IW. The Gauntlets and Helmet you bought from me is mainly for beginners who are still using exq. or mag. equips and struggling at finishing x20 AR. So you can still use them use now, it is fine, your main problem is your shield and legging. At your level playing x20, you should probably try to use all legendary, not mentioning you are "ambitious" and want to play x20 IW and GFest.

I have sent you
Magnificent Cobalt Force Shield of Deflection
and
Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Warding
for free. They are still temporary equips but at least much better than your current shield and legging. You have Gold stars so I think you should be able to equip them in a few days when you level up.

Meanwhile, keep pay attention to Legendary force shield with decent blocking rate and SDE attribute, as well as a decent Legendary power legging. After that you will basically be a pretty strong 1H style.

Right now, I'm trying to figure out a.way to reduce the damage from random crits.

Right now, I'm trying to figure out a.way to reduce the damage from random crits.

cast weaken, which can fully eliminate mobs' crit hits

Got a question for the experienced 1H / Heavy players.

I'm currently on Nintendo and I'm thinking of advancing to the next difficulty. I'm not having much trouble with the battles since they're a breeze right now. Is there anything I should be prepared for when it comes to the monsters? I'm guessing they do a lot of crazy shit on IWBTH and PFUDOR?

So far my strategy has been to just turn on Spirit Stance once I get enough charges and start shredding. I always 0-turn Imperil Schoolgirls, wait for them to get stunned, Vital Strike, and hope they die quickly to a crit. Seems to work for the most part. Regen helps me plenty too.

I'm also guessing the monsters do a lot more crits with their SP attacks on difficulties above Nintendo. Do I constantly cast Weaken and hope for the best? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by forgottendropzone: Sep 1 2021, 07:20

Meanwhile, keep pay attention to Legendary force shield with decent blocking rate and SDE attribute, as well as a decent Legendary power legging. After that you will basically be a pretty strong 1H style.

Magnificent can also work and should be looked at. As far as I know they have the same upper limits as legendaries, so provided it has SDE and really good block, it's fine. I sure know my Isekai Magnificent is better than my two legendaries.

The better legendary has Dex End Agi, PXP 358, BLK 84%, Pmit 57%, Mmit 22%, Dex 33%, End 48%, Agi 72%
The magnificent has Str Dex End PXP 328, BLK 91%, Pmit 5%, Mmit 18%, Str 74%, Dex 35%, End 33%, Pier 55%

The mag has a higher base block, and that's preferable, doubly so with SDE.

Got a question for the experienced 1H / Heavy players.

I'm currently on Nintendo and I'm thinking of advancing to the next difficulty. I'm not having much trouble with the battles since they're a breeze right now. Is there anything I should be prepared for when it comes to the monsters? I'm guessing they do a lot of crazy shit on IWBTH and PFUDOR?

So far my strategy has been to just turn on Spirit Stance once I get enough charges and start shredding. I always 0-turn Imperil Schoolgirls, wait for them to get stunned, Vital Strike, and hope they die quickly to a crit. Seems to work for the most part. Regen helps me plenty too.

I'm also guessing the monsters do a lot more crits with their SP attacks on difficulties above Nintendo. Do I constantly cast Weaken and hope for the best? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Assuming you only play arenas, you should have no trouble with PFUDOR with a rapier or shortsword of slaughter, a force shield and full magnificent or better power armor (with all 3 PABs on each of course). You shouldn't need weaken unless you have terrible gear and/or very little forging.

It's hard to say more without knowing what gear you have.

Using vital strike is good, but how you use it is important. In rounds with multiple SGs, you want to imperil all of them and hover on one of them. Once you see another SG is stunned, use vital strike on that one. You want to be careful not to overkill them with vital strike, since that would be a waste of damage. Ideally, you want everything to die at the same time, so you might have to switch between hovering over different SGs. It can be tricky to manage your overcharge and vital strikes, but after a while you get a feel for it.

Assuming you only play arenas, you should have no trouble with PFUDOR with a rapier or shortsword of slaughter, a force shield and full magnificent or better power armor (with all 3 PABs on each of course). You shouldn't need weaken unless you have terrible gear and/or very little forging.

It's hard to say more without knowing what gear you have.

Using vital strike is good, but how you use it is important. In rounds with multiple SGs, you want to imperil all of them and hover on one of them. Once you see another SG is stunned, use vital strike on that one. You want to be careful not to overkill them with vital strike, since that would be a waste of damage. Ideally, you want everything to die at the same time, so you might have to switch between hovering over different SGs. It can be tricky to manage your overcharge and vital strikes, but after a while you get a feel for it.

Excellent advice, dude.

Here's the gear that I'm currently wearing if you want to know more:

Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Swiftness

Magnificent Mithril Kite Shield of Warding

Legendary Ruby Power Helmet of Protection

Legendary Cobalt Power Armor of Protection

Legendary Onyx Plate Gauntlets of Deflection

Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Protection

Legendary Zircon Plate Sabatons of Stoneskin

Right now, my current priority is getting a decent Leg Force Shield with SDE (and in all honesty, I think I'll keep my old and weary Magnificent in my inventory since I've been using it literally every battle since lv. 28, plus other sentimental reasons). I've been having trouble actually looking for one in WTS. So if anyone would gladly give me a shield of that type in exchange for credits, you'll be doing me a huge favor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm currently in the process of switching out my other Leg gear, though that'll take me a while, since they're level 400+ and I need soul fragments. I do think I need a better Leg Power Leggings with that as well.

Excellent advice, dude.

Here's the gear that I'm currently wearing if you want to know more:

Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Swiftness

Magnificent Mithril Kite Shield of Warding

Legendary Ruby Power Helmet of Protection

Legendary Cobalt Power Armor of Protection

Legendary Onyx Plate Gauntlets of Deflection

Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Protection

Legendary Zircon Plate Sabatons of Stoneskin

Right now, my current priority is getting a decent Leg Force Shield with SDE (and in all honesty, I think I'll keep my old and weary Magnificent in my inventory since I've been using it literally every battle since lv. 28, plus other sentimental reasons). I've been having trouble actually looking for one in WTS. So if anyone would gladly give me a shield of that type in exchange for credits, you'll be doing me a huge favor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm currently in the process of switching out my other Leg gear, though that'll take me a while, since they're level 400+ and I need soul fragments. I do think I need a better Leg Power Leggings with that as well.

When you do replace your shield, make sure to forge the block as high as you can. That will be a massive boost to survivability (and you'll gain some damage too, since you'll get more counter attacks). SDE is optimal, but high BLK% is more important. Forging the parry on your weapon as much as possible will help a bit too, though you should also switch that one to a slaughter if you can find a decent one. I would personally recommend a rapier, but a shortsword works fine too. Just look for one with decent ADB and Parry.

When you do replace your shield, make sure to forge the block as high as you can. That will be a massive boost to survivability (and you'll gain some damage too, since you'll get more counter attacks). SDE is optimal, but high BLK% is more important. Forging the parry on your weapon as much as possible will help a bit too, though you should also switch that one to a slaughter if you can find a decent one. I would personally recommend a rapier, but a shortsword works fine too. Just look for one with decent ADB and Parry.

Great, thank you for the tips, I'll keep these in mind. Hopefully I'll get something good from shrining, though I won't bet on anything since I have piss-poor luck with getting a shield that's actually decent from the Shrine (best I've got were weapons / armor that were Mags). Hell, I'm pretty sure I have better odds getting Legs to drop from the arena since I've had that happen before.

Back to the WTS lookout I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I believe I took down shadow veil as it reduce the charging speed when dancing with dragon, but yes I will be casting shadow veil for IW from now on, thank you so much!
BTW, I wonder if I open Innate Arcana4 but only slot 3 skills, will the upkeep for all 3 skills be reduced by 40%? Or does the upkeep reduction stays at 30% bc only 3 skills were slotted

As a rule of thumb from what I've gathered, you should almost never use SV on 1H builds, unless you *really* need a small bonus to survivability. Both because the burden of 1H builds guts your evade stat, and evades don't trigger counters.
Haste is in a similar boat although not as bad. In pure clear speed, Haste tends to slow things down because you acting more often means less counterattacks vs regular attacks (relatively speaking). You should only use Haste if you're struggling, potentially also if you're fighting a boss.

So the TL;DR is 1H should only use both spells if you're really struggling.

The better legendary has Dex End Agi, PXP 358, BLK 84%, Pmit 57%, Mmit 22%, Dex 33%, End 48%, Agi 72%
The magnificent has Str Dex End PXP 328, BLK 91%, Pmit 5%, Mmit 18%, Str 74%, Dex 35%, End 33%, Pier 55%

The mag has a higher base block, and that's preferable, doubly so with SDE.

You confusing ranges, each quality have its own range from 0% to 100%, depends of particular stat mag 99% could be legendary 25%, some stats could be even less for legendary equivalent. They do overlap, but usually very good mag stats is equivalent of bad legendary.
Also plague of mag equipment is missing pabs, you can easy lose 30 str or dex or end by missing 1 of this pab in mag equipment. Always check pabs if you have choice.


here: Magnificent Force Shield of Deflection

AFAIK only buckler of barrier that is considered as alternative to force shield, even then it only as a niche one...
As for IA, yes...
The upkeep for 3 skills will be reduced by 40%...

Thank you so much for such important info, I did not know how different force shield is from ordinary buckler, add force shield to my upgrade list (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

At your level playing x20, you should probably try to use all legendary, not mentioning you are "ambitious" and want to play x20 IW and GFest.
Meanwhile, keep pay attention to Legendary force shield with decent blocking rate and SDE attribute, as well as a decent Legendary power legging. After that you will basically be a pretty strong 1H style.

I can't thank you enough for giving me free equip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Meanwhile, could someone please explain to me what is "SDE"?
I have Live Percentile Ranges script installed, but have no knowledge on how each stats contribute to battle.
And thank you for letting me know that IW is actually more difficult than AR, I now think I am too ambitious to do PFUDOR IW when I havent even have a grasp on how equipment works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) should stay at IWTBH before I understand the concept of equipment type

Meanwhile, could someone please explain to me what is "SDE"?

Str Dex End are player attributes for eqipment. Shield have 3 attributes, but there is list of 4 possible: str dex end agi, agility considered less desirable for 1h, so for 1h heavy you wanna SDE attributes on your shield.



As for evade and attack speed, for my particular build around this level using shadow veil make me 3% slower, and using haste slows me down(ironically) for 7%. So it is trade off between clearing speed and survivability, but difference in clearing speed not so huge.

Also people said and it seems very true, that haste, shadow veil and respective scrolls are not penalized by burden, so you can use them even if you have 100+ burden - they will work as if you had 0 burden.