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post Aug 10 2021, 14:27
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 10 2021, 14:06) *

What is the next Hath perk I should unlock? I am a fire mage and I have already unlocked the following perks:
IA 4
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So what is the next one to be unlocked? Maybe the 25% Exp? 10% SP? DD2? Or other perks? I current have around 1k hath and will earn more.

I'll suggest SupProf/IA5/DD2, but if you want more income, Tokenizer/Crystarium should be better. If you farm GF every day you need Long Gone Before Daylight.
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post Aug 10 2021, 15:36
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Aug 10 2021, 04:13) *

Tokenizer or LGBD I would say.


I don't have enough time to consume 24 stamina per day so never drink energy drinks.
I don't think my current equip set can survive GF and I don't have all crystal perk unlocked so GF may not be a good idea for me at this moment.
Tokenizer seems to be good but I have heard that Tokenizer will reduce the chance of getting Token of blood, I don't know which one is better, I thought Token of blood is better than Chaos Token? Maybe I am wrong.

QUOTE(sharmy @ Aug 10 2021, 04:27) *

I'll suggest SupProf/IA5/DD2, but if you want more income, Tokenizer/Crystarium should be better. If you farm GF every day you need Long Gone Before Daylight.


I think SunProf is good as it reduced the cast time of cure/full-cure, IA5 maybe, but the keepup 50% mana is a little bit too much, DD2 is too expensive at this moment, I only have 1k Hath now. I may have to figure out which one is better, Chaos Token or Token of blood. For now I have 60+ monsters, need roughly 70 Chaos token to unlock the next.

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post Aug 10 2021, 15:52
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 10 2021, 22:36) *

I don't have enough time to consume 24 stamina per day so never drink energy drinks.
I don't think my current equip set can survive GF and I don't have all crystal perk unlocked so GF may not be a good idea for me at this moment.
Tokenizer seems to be good but I have heard that Tokenizer will reduce the chance of getting Token of blood, I don't know which one is better, I thought Token of blood is better than Chaos Token? Maybe I am wrong.
I think SunProf is good as it reduced the cast time of cure/full-cure, IA5 maybe, but the keepup 50% mana is a little bit too much, DD2 is too expensive at this moment, I only have 1k Hath now. I may have to figure out which one is better, Chaos Token or Token of blood. For now I have 60+ monsters, need roughly 70 Chaos token to unlock the next.


IA5 is 50% discount, not 50% more mana.
with IA 1 you pay 90% mana cost for upkeep, with IA 5 you only pay 50% per round
some 1h melee player have IA 5 and only slot 3 (without haste and shadow veil) as the mana cost/turn is still reduced.

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post Aug 11 2021, 03:08
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Aug 10 2021, 15:36) *

Tokenizer seems to be good but I have heard that Tokenizer will reduce the chance of getting Token of blood, I don't know which one is better, I thought Token of blood is better than Chaos Token? Maybe I am wrong.

I think SunProf is good as it reduced the cast time of cure/full-cure, IA5 maybe, but the keepup 50% mana is a little bit too much, DD2 is too expensive at this moment, I only have 1k Hath now. I may have to figure out which one is better, Chaos Token or Token of blood. For now I have 60+ monsters, need roughly 70 Chaos token to unlock the next.

Tokenizer won't decrease the chance of Blood Token. It only increase the chance of Chaos Token

The major effect of FoN is, it increase the HP recover when you cast cure, so your need fewer cures
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post Aug 11 2021, 05:28
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The major effect of FoN is, it increase the HP recover when you cast cure, so your need fewer cures
Nope, the main effect of FoN is that you use less MP. So i just got it to use less MP with the auto cast spells.
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post Aug 11 2021, 09:42
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Just thought I'd try here one more time. Any thoughts on reasonable prices to buy a bronze star in today's market? Or leads on anyone currently willing to sell stars?

QUOTE(sogeth @ Aug 3 2021, 22:05) *

I've finally managed to cobble together enough credits and/or Hath to consider purchasing a star. Assuming anyone still sells them.

Searching in the WTS/WTB forums, I see very little recent information.

Does anyone have anything like a best practice guide to purchasing stars, or some thoughts on reasonable current prices?

I've (just) reached out directly to several people I have some indication have been willing to sell in the past, but I thought I'd cast the net more broadly here.

Feel free to PM me if you would rather not answer here.

Thank you all very much!

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post Aug 11 2021, 09:53
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QUOTE(sogeth @ Aug 11 2021, 09:42) *

Just thought I'd try here one more time. Any thoughts on reasonable prices to buy a bronze star in today's market? Or leads on anyone currently willing to sell stars?
Well, a gold star is around 80m atm iirc. So a BS should be around 16M. About star seller, i am not sure i know one who is actually still active, but i will ask around.
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post Aug 11 2021, 20:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 11 2021, 00:53) *

Well, a gold star is around 80m atm iirc. So a BS should be around 16M. About star seller, i am not sure i know one who is actually still active, but i will ask around.


Thanks Uncle Stu, I appreciate your asking around. I've reached out to all the former star selers I can identify, and those that have responded to me are not selling currently. I've upped my offer to 22.5 Million and even at that price, I haven't had any takers.

I have one lead, who suggests I may have to pay ~25 Million currently. It seems it's a very small pool of sellers currently (possibly exactly one, who is also not generally selling currently). So the price is dictated by the law of supply and demand (and general inflation in HV).

I'm continuing my search, and greatly appreciate any referals or recent price information that might not be easy to find publically.

Thanks everyone!
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post Aug 11 2021, 20:53
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Welp, i did came out with nothing. Seems like the market of star seller is quite dry atm. Sorry.
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post Aug 11 2021, 21:01
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Different topic: Does anyone have a database of former lottery winners, or a technique to search?

I actually won a lottery at some point (a single cafinated candy, the absolutely worst prize for me given I never play enough to need stamina boosts), but didn't notice when.

Not actually important, but I'm wondering how long it's been sitting in my inventory, but don't particularly want to click back through the lottery pages searching.

My stratagy with lottery: Every once in a while, when I notice a particuarly low number of tickets is to buy one ticket (generally se;lecting do not want for the main prize), hoping for a golden lottery ticket, or a few chaos tokens.
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post Aug 11 2021, 21:02
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 11 2021, 11:53) *

Welp, i did came out with nothing. Seems like the market of star seller is quite dry atm. Sorry.


Thanks for trying!
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post Aug 11 2021, 21:09
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QUOTE(sogeth @ Aug 11 2021, 21:01) *

Different topic: Does anyone have a database of former lottery winners, or a technique to search?
Iirc the discord bot of the inofficial HV discord has a function for that.

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QUOTE(sogeth @ Aug 11 2021, 21:01) *

I actually won a lottery at some point (a single cafinated candy, the absolutely worst prize for me given I never play enough to need stamina boosts), but didn't notice when.

1 Caffeinated Candy | Fiery Axe of Slaughter | 8k | #2573 / September 29th |
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post Aug 11 2021, 21:41
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Someone who played the first season of Isekai could tell me, more or less, in terms of difficulty the current floor 50 is equivalent to which floor in the previous season? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I ask that because, I remember that last season several people said it was easy to get up to the floor 50 (and even a little more) and that the problem was only the time it took. And it now seems that it is more difficult than before, even with the limitation in 100 rounds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 11 2021, 21:48
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 11 2021, 20:41) *

Someone who played the first season of Isekai could tell me, more or less, in terms of difficulty the current floor 50 is equivalent to which floor in the previous season? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I ask that because, I remember that last season several people said it was easy to get up to the floor 50 (and even a little more) and that the problem was only the time it took. And it now seems that it is more difficult than before, even with the limitation in 100 rounds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I think it's pretty similar - the damage is higher in lower rounds, but it's less dangerous at the end (because it doesn't go as far). The monster health scales up faster, which means you can be facing more spirit attacks, but that's more or less immaterial since you would've been taking plenty anyway.

Speaking of which! I made it to floor 50 as 2H today, with an exquisite mace of slaughter. 2H is really, really bad! If you're 1H or even DW, it should be almost trivial... with the right equipment, of course. (I didn't buy anything but I did swap drops with one other person.)
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post Aug 11 2021, 22:24
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 11 2021, 21:41) *

Someone who played the first season of Isekai could tell me, more or less, in terms of difficulty the current floor 50 is equivalent to which floor in the previous season? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I ask that because, I remember that last season several people said it was easy to get up to the floor 50 (and even a little more) and that the problem was only the time it took. And it now seems that it is more difficult than before, even with the limitation in 100 rounds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Last season, it became a chore of 1 to 2 hrs.... very hard to keep concentrated, for me. This is still doable at floor 49. I'm playing DW this season, and that is different than last season as 1h. Much more sparks. But sparks don't kill.
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post Aug 11 2021, 22:26
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Aug 11 2021, 16:48) *

I think it's pretty similar - the damage is higher in lower rounds, but it's less dangerous at the end (because it doesn't go as far). The monster health scales up faster, which means you can be facing more spirit attacks, but that's more or less immaterial since you would've been taking plenty anyway.


As I did not play last season, I had no idea of that. And for the little that people commented on the current season, I assumed that things would now be more difficult and that many were struggling to get up to the floor 50. I even thought it would be easier. But from 41 to 50 it was very annoying. And after that, it seems that the difficulty rose in an express elevator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

QUOTE(Nezu @ Aug 11 2021, 16:48) *

Speaking of which! I made it to floor 50 as 2H today, with an exquisite mace of slaughter. 2H is really, really bad! If you're 1H or even DW, it should be almost trivial... with the right equipment, of course. (I didn't buy anything but I did swap drops with one other person.)


Do this with 2H ... really you're exceptional! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

And I'm sure I'm doing many wrong things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But I think I know what to do next season. The deal is now only play for credits, and run some tests. The important thing is to end the season with a positive balance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

QUOTE(Noni @ Aug 11 2021, 17:24) *

Last season, it became a chore of 1 to 2 hrs.... very hard to keep concentrated, for me. This is still doable at floor 49. I'm playing DW this season, and that is different than last season as 1h. Much more sparks. But sparks don't kill.


In my case, with 1H, I'm already taking over 1 hour, as can be seen below:

(IMG:[imgur.com] https://imgur.com/QaxtjQ6.jpg)

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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 11 2021, 21:26) *

And I'm sure I'm doing many wrong things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But I think I know what to do next season. The deal is now only play for credits, and run some tests. The important thing is to end the season with a positive balance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
In my case, with 1H, I'm already taking over 1 hour, as can be seen below:


For what it's worth, that was only a little slower than my run, except over 1k of my actions are now cures and I use nearly 100 health elixirs and 30ish spirit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) - plus scrolls often as well.
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post Aug 11 2021, 22:50
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 11 2021, 22:26) *

As I did not play last season, I had no idea of that. And for the little that people commented on the current season, I assumed that things would now be more difficult and that many were struggling to get up to the floor 50. I even thought it would be easier. But from 41 to 50 it was very annoying. And after that, it seems that the difficulty rose in an express elevator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
Do this with 2H ... really you're exceptional! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

And I'm sure I'm doing many wrong things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But I think I know what to do next season. The deal is now only play for credits, and run some tests. The important thing is to end the season with a positive balance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
In my case, with 1H, I'm already taking over 1 hour, as can be seen below:

(IMG:[imgur.com] https://imgur.com/QaxtjQ6.jpg)

dude, use scrolls!
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QUOTE(Noni @ Aug 11 2021, 17:50) *

dude, use scrolls!


If I tell you that the last time I used Scrolls was in 2015 (or 2016, I do not remember for sure), do you believe? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I have always considered economically unfeasible the use of Scrolls, as well as that of Elixirs (only in case of emergency). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) This is another reason why I did not want to become a mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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