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Originally i was using all the tokens on one but now i am opening slots each time i get enough tokens and only putting tokens into gift factor.

You really shouldnt put tokens into Scavenging -btw scavenging gives you 2.5% everything else gives you 0.5% gift factor- it is just not worth it. Even with a gift change of 150% it is not guaranteed to get a double gift. So it is really much more profitabel to ignore the monster themself completly when it comes to token usage.

Btw when i speek about forging i mean forge your weapoen (parry as much as you can, damage a bit) forge your shield (block all the way) for your armor (PM, MM, End for your defense and Dex a little bit, for the additional additional parry.

You really shouldnt put tokens into Scavenging -btw scavenging gives you 2.5% everything else gives you 0.5% gift factor- it is just not worth it. Even with a gift change of 150% it is not guaranteed to get a double gift. So it is really much more profitabel to ignore the monster themself completly when it comes to token usage.

For every 40 tokens to unlock one mon you should give all your mons a level of Scavenging (and for 200 token a level of the other chaos upgrades). If you have a Gold Start it's every 80 tokens of cost to unlock two mons (yes this sentences it redundant, but it important enough to repeat).

Of course this is only if you only care about gifts, but personally I found unlocking and naming monster more fun than chaos upgrading.

30 should be easy just play it for 30 days and your are done, 40 is allready a bit harder and 50 is just a matter of time. You may need some grinding to pull that one off. But it should be easy even if you would just start right now.
The only difference a star is giving you is the ability to attach stuff to a MM, so nothing game changing. They dont get more credits in isekai, they dont get more drops in isekai, they dont get more xp in isekai, they dont get more credits in isekai.

While it doesn't have any affect on success in the tower, I have to say i do feel it is game changing, had i been able to sell my trophy/material drops at prices in wtb i would have triple the amount of credits i do have in persistent for upgrading gear etc.

While it doesn't have any affect on success in the tower, I have to say i do feel it is game changing, had i been able to sell my trophy/material drops at prices in wtb i would have triple the amount of credits i do have in persistent for upgrading gear etc.

Yeah? Well i dont sell them, i actually dont even trade in isekai at all. Everything i use, i droped myself, and except a really, really bad case of "i just dont drop the rare materials i need" i am doing fine. Hell, i even missed out the early bird and i still am doing fine, i reached allready floor 36, play everything on PFUDOR and floor 50 is only a matter of time. So forgive me when i disagree when you it actually would make a difference, because it doesnt.

Unless of course you talk about upgrading your persistent gear, but that has nothing to do with isekai. And your original question was how to play isekai without star. So if you actually changed the topic, it would be nice make it clear so that i know.

Unless of course you talk about upgrading your persistent gear, but that has nothing to do with isekai. And your original question was how to play isekai without star. So if you actually changed the topic, it would be nice make it clear so that i know.

the original question was posted by someone else i was just responding with how i feel, sorry if that wasnt clear

the original question was posted by someone else i was just responding with how i feel, sorry if that wasnt clear

You are right, my bad. It is sometimes a bit hard to keep track of who asked what question. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Aug 8 2021, 17:11

Is there a post-update consensus on the most efficient arena battles in terms of xp/credits per stamina?

This is a very rough EXP/round comparison between "second page arena" I did today.
The credits (exq lower are sold, I somehow didn't get any magnificent or more at all today except clear bonus), crystals and trophy drop is quite erratic and can't be done by just one day data, but the exp is more or less stable around those numbers.
I do a quick comparison to older screenshot I happen to do, and I don't remember seeing any number that have more than 7 million difference with what today's exp is, except when I was doing the arena with more than 60 stamina.

The exp/round comparison to DWD is more or less in line with what was before the new update, with the 2 new addition could be seen as DWD + 33% and DWD +100%.
here is the old exp/round comparison - done before lvl 500 so the exp is vastly lower, so I don't know the difference in exp between before and after update.

edit : I just realize that I auto sell mag plates and mag force shield, so maybe that 10k on dreamfall could be that one (mag plates are around 1.5-2k when sold to bazaar, mag force shield is way more - exq is about 5k+ each)

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Aug 8 2021, 20:05

About monster gifts.
At 499PL monsters start bring you high grade material, what i'm curious is this additional materials impact chance of getting bindings, or materials and bindings have separate roll?

This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Aug 9 2021, 02:52

About monster gifts.
At 499PL monsters start bring you high grade material, what i'm curious is this additional materials impact chance of getting bindings, or materials and bindings have separate roll?

It's most likely PL 500, my PL 499s still haven't brought any while my PL 500s have brought 2 HG.

Power level only affects the High:Mid:Low grade ratios, no effect on Grade:Binding:Rare rations (btw the ratio appear to be 107:17:1)

This post has been edited by sigo8: Aug 9 2021, 03:22

It's most likely PL 500, my PL 499s still haven't brought any while my PL 500s have brought 2 HG.

Power level only affects the High:Mid:Low grade ratios, no effect on Grade:Binding:Rare rations (btw the ratio appear to be 107:17:1)

Thanks, good to know.
I just recently noticed that upgrading monster from 250PL to 500PL costs equivalent of about 2HGC...

I would like to ask about how to calculate the ADB for equipment. The wiki show this page but I'm still confusing (I'm really bad at math) as how people come up with the % ADB result.

This post has been edited by Kaithera: Aug 9 2021, 18:52

I would like to ask about how to calculate the ADB for equipment. The wiki show this page but I'm still confusing (I'm really at math) as how people come up with the % ADB result.

% ADB is based on ranges

if you wants to calculate rapier of slaughter's ADB for example, you take its base ADB (the amount shown when you hover on the ADB) then compare it to the rapier ADB ranges.
The range on the wiki shows that a legendary rapier of slaughter could have at least 42.8 base ADB and maximum of 51.33 If a rapier have 50 base adb, then it is (50-42.8)/(51.33-42.8) -> 7.2/8.53 -> 0.8440 -> 84.40% ADB

take note that % ADB shown on equipment percentile script could go beyond 100% or below 0% if it is upgraded or a magnificent
The % usually based on legendary ranges (as that what most people usually expect to compare with), but some people/seller might using magnificent range for magnificent equipment - for whatever reason.
also, the range itself is not absolutely correct as those are user compiled data of what was known - at least the minimum might still decrease, while the maximum for legendary is theoretically should be correct as those should always be the same as its peerless variant.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Aug 9 2021, 18:27

% ADB is based on ranges

if you wants to calculate rapier of slaughter's ADB for example, you take its base ADB (the amount shown when you hover on the ADB) then compare it to the rapier ADB ranges.
The range on the wiki shows that a legendary rapier of slaughter could have at least 42.8 base ADB and maximum of 51.33 If a rapier have 50 base adb, then it is (50-42.8)/(51.33-42.8) -> 7.2/8.53 -> 0.8440 -> 84.40% ADB

take note that % ADB shown on equipment percentile script could go beyond 100% or below 0% if it is upgraded or a magnificent
The % usually based on legendary ranges (as that what most people usually expect to compare with), but some people/seller might using magnificent range for magnificent equipment - for whatever reason.
also, the range itself is not absolutely correct as those are user compiled data of what was known - at least the minimum might still decrease, while the maximum for legendary is theoretically should be correct as those should always be the same as its peerless variant.

I see I see.

For example this longsword only has 22% ADB, am I correct? Does this mean it's kinda trash?

This post has been edited by Kaithera: Aug 9 2021, 19:03

I see I see.

For example this longsword only has 22% ADB, am I correct? Does this mean it's kinda trash?

not really, but not wrong either.
I mean, legendary is still a legendary regardless of its stats. Generally -stats wise- they would always be better than exq or less weapon of its variant, at worse equal to high tier magnificent. If you only have an exquisite/superior longsword and you wants to keep playing with longsword, then that is always an upgrade. With its high PAB percentile, that longsword is a serviceable weapon by itself. Quite wide margin for upgrade, but usable nonetheless.
But, also regardless of its stats, that is a longsword... who actually use longsword post lvl 300 as their main gear other than some handful crackpot who insist on doing it for reason... even then they would just look for peerless or anything near peerless, as longsword is cheap in general.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Aug 9 2021, 19:23

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lol wtf, End of Days arena, only 4 trophies and they are from last round
what it is? how can this be?

lol wtf, End of Days arena, only 4 trophies and they are from last round
what it is? how can this be?

Yup, happens from time to time, just bad luck.

lol wtf, End of Days arena, only 4 trophies and they are from last round
what it is? how can this be?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I've achieved "only 5 trophies" several times

Does anyone know if the adopt a server scheme takes time to build up to 10h/day like H@H?

Or does it start straight at the max?

What is the next Hath perk I should unlock? I am a fire mage and I have already unlocked the following perks:
IA 4
CoD free
10% HP
10% MP
50% regen
Enigma energizer
10% element prof
10% depreciate prof
Crystal 1
DD 1

So what is the next one to be unlocked? Maybe the 25% Exp? 10% SP? DD2? Or other perks? I current have around 1k hath and will earn more.

What is the next Hath perk I should unlock? I am a fire mage and I have already unlocked the following

Tokenizer or LGBD I would say.