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Imo, when you have hath to waste for the Manehattan perk, get all the DD instead.

Yea i heard many people said it is not worth of its price, but always was curious how much it boosts OFC. I mean best usecase is skipping every second SG round on areana, if it cant do even this than there is no much use of it.

I can 1-shot SGs fairly reliably with my DW set (>16k ADB, DD9, full forged savage power of slaughter & peerless weapons) - although not 100% of the time. Lower-end rolls of normal hits can fail to kill sometimes.

I guess with Niten would be similar situation.

I were thinking something like this: cast imperil on all SG, then using estoc paint everyone with 3 stacks of PA and then cover all this with OCF, but came to conclusion that SG would survived - just not enough dmg even if they have 0 mitigation, so remember the perk...

Kinda tired of 1h, but cant figure how to make 2h faster and also live.

This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Jul 26 2021, 21:29

Yea i heard many people said it is not worth of its price, but always was curious how much it boosts OFC. I mean best usecase is skipping every second SG round on areana, if it cant do even this than there is no much use of it.

I guess with Niten would be similar situation.

Yeah, niten should be pretty similar.

I were thinking something like this: cast imperil on all SG, then using estoc paint everyone with 3 stacks of PA and then cover all this with OCF, but came to conclusion that SG would survived - just not enough dmg even if they have 0 mitigation, so remember the perk...

Kinda tired of 1h, but cant figure how to make 2h faster and also live.

I've been told longsword works better than the other 2H weapons, in arenas.

But 2H is generally the weakest of all styles for arena clear speed. Don't expect it to match up to 1H in any way.

I've been playing 2H in isekai and I think it has promise to be taken further, with how good Great Cleave can potentially be, and Rending Blow... but it has a few issues, like very little access to counter-parry. The biggest effects are going to be imperil behaviour, Spirit Stance and skill usage.

I've been told longsword works better than the other 2H weapons, in arenas.

Wonder if it's because of bleeding, or its just high ADB.

But 2H is generally the weakest of all styles for arena clear speed. Don't expect it to match up to 1H in any way.

I've been playing 2H in isekai and I think it has promise to be taken further, with how good Great Cleave can potentially be, and Rending Blow... but it has a few issues, like very little access to counter-parry. The biggest effects are going to be imperil behaviour, Spirit Stance and skill usage.

2h have perfomance when round still crowded due to extra dmg from domino strikes, but on arena each round ends with only SG alive and thats where things become slow, at this point you'd better spam Great Cleave but it has cooldown, also damage not that great, if only it has bonus dmg when target have some status effect like Vital Strike - it would help.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271856918/02d9f925c9
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/87077896/a988ae7e40
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267466122/e86145b19e

Between these 3 shields, the peerless one is infinitely better right?

Between these 3 shields, the peerless one is infinitely better right?

the first one is better. Block is the most important stats on a shield

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271856918/02d9f925c9
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/87077896/a988ae7e40
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/267466122/e86145b19e

Between these 3 shields, the peerless one is infinitely better right?

the first one is the best, but auction the peerless one may bring more credit

I see, thanks!

after doing multiple hellfest in isekai with 2h plate, here are the rest...

thank you. and no, if everything's been collected (within your possibilities, ofc), we should be fine.
waiting for nezu's confirm, since he was tracking already

With this perk OFC can reliably oneshot SGs?

btw, it means it doubles OFC damage

auction the peerless one may bring more credit

not so many though. expect something like 50-200k from some odd collector

May i remind you two that FoS never really was intended to be obtained in the first place? I mean when the first one got FoS, FoS is literally nothing, because 10bo didnt had even include a function for it at that point in time. Also with todays hath prices 50k isnt that much. 50k @4091 makes only 204,550,000 credits. Meh, i have spend more credits allready for my stars. So dont act as if it was a impossible task no one except the riches of the riches could ever afford. 200M is something one could easy get with doing all the arenas every day for a year. And you two now complain, that this would be much more as you play, well why the hell would you even bother with a perk that does need you to get as many trophies as possible in the first place?

Similar to davidtsu I wasn't really trying to imply or complain about anything - I just wanted to clarify that getting FoS with hath is largely impossible for the more casual member - regardless of account age - even if you've got a steady hath income that isn't fueled by a decent chunk of cash.
Also, you can get stars for credits?


@Greshnik: Oh, I did not know that. Then I probably do remember correctly in missing at least one year.

Also, you can get stars for credits?

There are players who are willing to "sell" GS for credits (and also bronze or silver, ofcourse).

You simply send them the credits and they will send in your wallet the bitcoin equivalent.

It was much more advantageous up to a couple of years before, a GS would cost 40M or so on average iirc.
Nowadays is more like 80m for a GS, for no sensible reason (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Quality    Notes
10,000    Maximum quality.
7,000    Static Range cap becomes 6,000.
5,000    Static Range cap becomes 2,000. Its factor for hath calculation is reduced.
3,000    Static Range cap becomes 1,000.
2,500    Client stays idle.
1,500    Starting point for new clients or those that have been unused for several days.

According to the wiki these are the Quality values that cap the amount of static ranges used on the hathrate calculation formula.

Are these values ceiling or floor caps? I was always under the impression that they were floor ones, but recently I finally got past the 2000 static range (SR) mark and the hathrate stopped increasing even though the SR number is already nearing 2200. I know that the quality used for the formula is the lower-end value (at least that's what the wiki says) and not the value shown on the e-hentai h@h page. However, i was having ~9000 quality spikes so there's no way the low-end mark is under 5000, so I'm guessing that the the low-end value is somewhere between 5000 and 7000.

Using the hathrate formula with 2000 SR (even though I have nearly 2200 right now) gives me the exact hathrate showed on the ehentai page so that has got to be what's capping it. That leads me to believe that the quality caps are indeed ceiling ones. This means that the maximum amount of hathrate obtained solely from SR (ignoring hit rate) can never surpass 60 + 1.

In case you don't know what I mean by ceiling/floor (I don't know how else to call it) what I mean is this:

If 5000 Quality is a floor cap then: If you are under that value, then the maximum amount of SR you can get from it is 2000. If you go above it, then the next cap becomes the one defined by the next floor, 7000 Quality in this case.

If 5000 Quality is a ceiling cap then: If you are under that value, then the maximum amount of SR you can get from it is 1000 because you didn't reach the cap yet, so the cap used is the previous ceiling, 3000 Quality in this case. If you go above it, then it becomes the cap itself and you can't get more SR between 5000 and 7000 Quality.

Obviously, ceiling caps are worse because they limit SR until you reach the next ceiling but most importantly because when you reach the last ceiling (7000) you can never get more SR since there's no other ceiling to reach. On the other hand, if 7000 was a floor cap, then once you get above it, since there are no more floors, then there would be no more caps and the amount of SR possible would become "unlimited", only defined by Speed and Cache Size. Now that I think about it, this seems to good to be true...

So, bottom line... floor or ceiling? Or, if there's a different way to define it, by all means enlighten me. Whichever the case may be, I think it would be beneficial to add some clarification to the wiki.

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Quality    Notes
10,000    Maximum quality.
7,000    Static Range cap becomes 6,000.
5,000    Static Range cap becomes 2,000. Its factor for hath calculation is reduced.
3,000    Static Range cap becomes 1,000.
2,500    Client stays idle.
1,500    Starting point for new clients or those that have been unused for several days.

According to the wiki these are the Quality values that cap the amount of static ranges used on the hathrate calculation formula.

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Not really hv related
Maybe ask here https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=7

Not really hv related
Maybe ask here https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=7

How is it not HV related? Hath is generated for HV purposes too. And in my case, solely for HV purposes since I don't really use e-hentai, nor use the sub-forums other than HV for that matter. I understand that H@H is its own thing but in this case I'd rather discuss this with people who play HV so is it okay if I keep it here anyway? I'm sure Nezu or Uncle Stu will come along shortly to enlightnen us anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Otherwise, I'll repost where you suggested, I guess.

How is it not HV related? Hath is generated for HV purposes too. And in my case, solely for HV purposes since I don't really use e-hentai, nor use the sub-forums other than HV for that matter. I understand that H@H is its own thing but in this case I'd rather discuss this with people who play HV so is it okay if I keep it here anyway? I'm sure Nezu or Uncle Stu will come along shortly to enlightnen us anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Otherwise, I'll repost where you suggested, I guess.

How do you reach 2000 static range? I remember mine was around 50-100, after one week I started join H@H.

How do you reach 2000 static range? I remember mine was around 50-100, after one week I started join H@H.

After roughly 6 months of it being on 24/7 on my home connection. It's actually pretty slow, but my current bandwidth is somewhat low, so it's to be expected. It just keeps growing by itself if you leave it on and if you maintain a high enough quality and trust.

How do you reach 2000 static range? I remember mine was around 50-100, after one week I started join H@H.

Assuming you don't have connectivity issues or other things that would assign you less SR, afaik it's (mostly) capped based on two things: Your bandwidth and your cache size.
I have a low upload speed - though it used to be higher a couple of years ago - but a fairly large cache for my speed, iirc I've got it set to max 500KB/s with a 100 GB cache. With that I've got (checked at time of posting) 512 SR.

I'm sure Nezu or Uncle Stu will come along shortly to enlightnen us anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Otherwise, I'll repost where you suggested, I guess.

As far as I know, it's a floor.

But yeah, like Noni said, the HV forum is for things about the game directly - stuff about H@H should go in help desk. There's only really one technical expert who can answer many H@H questions, his name starts with T and he doesn't read much here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

A few days ago, when I checked the Arena, I noticed the option to switch between the two pages of fights was gone and I can only fight stuff from the second page. Is this normal or am I experiencing a strange bug? I don't have adblock on or any scripts or anything going on, so I'm confused as to what's going on here.

I attached a picture of what it looks like. Sorry if this is a silly question.



This post has been edited by BananaPajama: Jul 29 2021, 18:30

A few days ago, when I checked the Arena, I noticed the option to switch between the two pages of fights was gone and I can only fight stuff from the second page. Is this normal or am I experiencing a strange bug? I don't have adblock on or any scripts or anything going on, so I'm confused as to what's going on here.

I attached a picture of what it looks like. Sorry if this is a silly question.

No, this is the new update. You can just fight the 14 highest arenas you have unlocked from now on. There exist even two completly new arenas, one for level 400 and one for level 500. Also they are now maxed out at 100 rounds with arena 500, so the SG arenas are now much shorter.

Oh, I see now. Thank you very much for the informative reply.