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does isekai arena the same as persistent???
If yes I could try help up to road less travelled...

yes

First Blood (2 rounds)
Round 1-2: 1 mob

Learning Curve (4 rounds)
Round 1-2: 1 mob
Round 3-4: 2 mobs

Graduation (6 rounds)
Round 1-4: 2 mobs
Round 5-6: 3 mobs

Road Less Traveled (8 rounds)
Round 1-4: 3 mobs
Round 5-6: 4 mobs
Round 7-8: 5 mobs

Sorry couldn't help more as I still lv. 35 in isekai...
after dawn i'll try help with power flux and killzone...
Hope it helps...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

after dawn i'll try help with power flux and killzone...
Hope it helps...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you may want to use this script, it'll help you to track:

 help_ehwiki.user.zip ( 2.33k ) Number of downloads: 13


This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jul 26 2021, 13:16

Paying 50k hath is way too expensive for new players. Maybe only top hardcore player with huge investment can unlock FoS.

Paying 50k hath is way too expensive even for most older members, I've been a member since at least 2009 and have had a H@H client - admitedly at a usually somewhat low upload speed - running for most of that time.. which doesn't give me that much, but it adds up. I think I also get 11 or 12 Hath each dawn atm iirc (I think I missed getting a cookie or two and I'm not online every day - just most).
I looked over my perks, and I had 33 300 worth of Hath Perks - though some were granted by donations - and I am currently sitting on ~2600 Hath. On top of that I've also sold a decent amount for credits, though I'm fairly sure that's not more than a few thousand at most. So even if I'm giving a generous estimate for how much I sold I've still only earnt 40k over roughly 12 years.. which still wouldn't get me FoS if I had used none of it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That said, until recently I also haven't been actively doing anything aside from H@H (and dawn events) that could get me any Hath - not that I'm aware of at least. The point was just that 50k Hath is a lot for pretty much anyone that isn't swimming in it.

*Edit* Cross referencing the list, I seem to have all the cookies, so I guess I either missed one of the earlier yuletide lotteries, or I'm just misremembering missing one.

This post has been edited by Xiandora: Jul 26 2021, 13:27

you may want to use this script, it'll help you to track:

 help_ehwiki.user.zip ( 2.33k ) Number of downloads: 13

so after I install it I only need to play as usual and it automatically update the db???
No need to post here anymore???

Edit:
@Xiandora, gold star automatically give every cookies, no need to post in yuletide thread...
CMIiW

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Jul 26 2021, 13:32

requesting an updated monster counter for arenas prior to "Killzone" in order to update this wiki section: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Arena#Arena_Challenges

whoever can help, please feel free to report them here

Killzone arena (30 rounds) : on Persistent (cannot go lower then this)

Rounds 1-12 - 4 monsters

Rounds 13-17 - 5 monsters

Rounds 18-22 - 6 monsters

Rounds 23-27 - 7 monsters

Rounds 28-30 - 8 monsters


EDIT :

Power Flux (25 rounds) on Isekai

Rounds 1-10 4 monsters
Rounds 11-14 5 monsters
Rounds 15-18 6 monsters
Rounds 19-22 7 monsters
Rounds 23-25 8 monsters

EDIT 2 :

Growing Storm (20 rounds) on Isekai

Rounds 1-8 4 monsters
Rounds 9-11 5 monsters
Rounds 12-14 6 monsters
Rounds 15-18 7 monsters
Rounds 19-20 8 monsters

And that's all, cannot go lower in Isekai too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Jul 26 2021, 15:33

Paying 50k hath is way too expensive even for most older members, I've been a member since at least 2009 and have had a H@H client - admitedly at a usually somewhat low upload speed - running for most of that time.. which doesn't give me that much, but it adds up. I think I also get 11 or 12 Hath each dawn atm iirc (I think I missed getting a cookie or two and I'm not online every day - just most).
I looked over my perks, and I had 33 300 worth of Hath Perks - though some were granted by donations - and I am currently sitting on ~2600 Hath. On top of that I've also sold a decent amount for credits, though I'm fairly sure that's not more than a few thousand at most. So even if I'm giving a generous estimate for how much I sold I've still only earnt 40k over roughly 12 years.. which still wouldn't get me FoS if I had used none of it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That said, until recently I also haven't been actively doing anything aside from H@H (and dawn events) that could get me any Hath - not that I'm aware of at least. The point was just that 50k Hath is a lot for pretty much anyone that isn't swimming in it.

*Edit* Cross referencing the list, I seem to have all the cookies, so I guess I either missed one of the earlier yuletide lotteries, or I'm just misremembering missing one.

I think FoS is only possible to obtain in a short period of time for the true H@H server provider. If you provide H@H servers, let's say 20, and with each one running for a few months, your static range will be pretty high, theoretically at the maximum of 1500GB for each server, which gives at 61 hath, considering the high hitrate at that stage, assume you get 70 hath per server per day, so 20 servers will give you 70*20=1400 hath per day.

OK, now FoS seems to be a possible thing right? You get 1400*30=42k hath per month, WOW, you can get FoS in 5 weeks! I think the top H@Hers already reached this point. But in reality, this is too difficult, you need to provide a total storage of at least 30TB, which is insane. If you did that, you are one of the most important contributors to this EH website lol, as you are providing 30TB manga/comic/CGs to others.

thanks. can you also specify amount of SGs and bosses?

Just edited my post to include that.

so after I install it I only need to play as usual and it automatically update the db???
No need to post here anymore???

no, you will be given a txt file to post here

Killzone arena (30 rounds) : on Persistent (cannot go lower then this)
Power Flux (25 rounds) on Isekai
Growing Storm (20 rounds) on Isekai
And that's all, cannot go lower in Isekai too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

thanks

Just edited my post to include that.

thanks

May i remind you two that FoS never really was intended to be obtained in the first place? I mean when the first one got FoS, FoS is literally nothing, because 10bo didnt had even include a function for it at that point in time. Also with todays hath prices 50k isnt that much. 50k @4091 makes only 204,550,000 credits. Meh, i have spend more credits allready for my stars. So dont act as if it was a impossible task no one except the riches of the riches could ever afford. 200M is something one could easy get with doing all the arenas every day for a year. And you two now complain, that this would be much more as you play, well why the hell would you even bother with a perk that does need you to get as many trophies as possible in the first place?

after doing multiple hellfest in isekai with 2h plate, here are the rest...

A Rolling Stone (10 rounds)
Round 1-4: 3 mobs
Round 5-6: 4 mobs
Round 7-8: 5 mobs
Round 9-10: 6 mobs

Fresh Meat (12 rounds)
Round 1-4: 4 mobs
Round 5-6: 5 mobs
Round 7-8: 6 mobs
Round 9-10: 7 mobs
Round 11-12: 8 mobs

Dark Skies (15 rounds)
Round 1-6: 4 mobs
Round 7-8: 5 mobs
Round 9-11: 6 mobs
Round 12-13: 7 mobs
Round 14-15: 8 mobs

@Scremaz, I tried to install it on my phone but couldn't find the .txt that you mention so I post it here manually...
As mundo already post the other 3, I believe I don't need to post it again, right???

May i remind you two that FoS never really was intended to be obtained in the first place? I mean when the first one got FoS, FoS is literally nothing, because 10bo didnt had even include a function for it at that point in time. Also with todays hath prices 50k isnt that much. 50k @4091 makes only 204,550,000 credits. Meh, i have spend more credits allready for my stars. So dont act as if it was a impossible task no one except the riches of the riches could ever afford. 200M is something one could easy get with doing all the arenas every day for a year. And you two now complain, that this would be much more as you play, well why the hell would you even bother with a perk that does need you to get as many trophies as possible in the first place?

Don't get me wrong, I have never complained about it. If you read my earlier post. I am simply asking the difference between Isekai and Persistent. 200M maybe easy for people who farm a lot but not for most of the players. And you mentioned that yourself have already spent more than 200M. Look at your level, 500, look at your joined date, 2012, nine years ago, yes, 200M is easy for you, but how many players here started earlier than you? Play more than you? A good analogy here, what you said is like someone making an statement "I am earning 1m US dollar per year and I think buying a 2000 sqft single family houses in Manhattan is quite easy for most mid-class people!"

No offense here, nothing personal. Just want to clarify that no one is complaining about FoS here.

200M maybe easy for people who farm a lot but not for most of the players. And you mentioned that yourself have already spent more than 200M. Look at your level, 500, look at your joined date, 2012, nine years ago, yes, 200M is easy for you,

Ah, but it is only easy for me, because i spend so much, that septa you see there? I did buy them all with credits.

but how many players here started earlier than you?

Time isnt really that much of a factor when it comes to the really rich player, there quite some player who have started after me and are much, much richer.

Play more than you?

Well i returned a month ago after a hiatus since february. So it should be quite easy to beat me in overal play time this year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

A good analogy here, what you said is like someone making an statement "I am earning 1m US dollar per year and I think buying a 2000 sqft single family houses in Manhattan is quite easy for most mid-class people!"

I dont think it is really a good analogy. A real person has expenses, sometimes something bad happens you havent planned and you have to spend a lot of money to fix.

No offense here, nothing personal. Just want to clarify that no one is complaining about FoS here.

Well to be fair, FoS would be useless for most people anyway. I mean lets just say one want to get a full peer power armor set. It would be much cheaper to try lottery or get them in auction as doing that with FoS. Or just look at all those FoSer who want a PHOH but all they get is bullshit even after much more credits spend as 200M. I mean we are talking about more credits spend just for the FoS as i got during all those years i played. I even have learned that for most people it would be much better to sell trophes in isekai as hoping for the FoS. Sad but true.

I think FoS is just like an expensive entry ticket for exclusive casino in Vegas...
Or maybe worse... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Manehattan Project Significantly boosts the damage output of the Orbital Friendship Cannon.

With this perk OFC can reliably oneshot SGs?
Also how much ADB you'd need to oneshot SGs with OFC(with and without perk)?

With this perk OFC can reliably oneshot SGs?
Also how much ADB you'd need to oneshot SGs with OFC(with and without perk)?

Ehm i doubt it, maybe when you are still at a really low level, have a lot of DD and allready fully forged Peerl stuff. But otherwhise, dont expect to be able to one shot SG's with the OFC.

Imo, when you have hath to waste for the Manehattan perk, get all the DD instead.

With this perk OFC can reliably oneshot SGs?
Also how much ADB you'd need to oneshot SGs with OFC(with and without perk)?

I can 1-shot SGs fairly reliably with my DW set (>16k ADB, DD9, full forged savage power of slaughter & peerless weapons) - although not 100% of the time. Lower-end rolls of normal hits can fail to kill sometimes.

However, as 1H - with lower crit rate, and about 14k ADB (same set, but one less weapon, obviously - using a peerless shortsword) it one-shots considerably less often.

Without Manehattan, you are not likely to 1-shot SGs ever unless you are very low level and yet somehow extremely well geared with very high perks.

Wow so it is possible? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I cant pull that off with 12609 damage and DD IV.

Imo, when you have hath to waste for the Manehattan perk, get all the DD instead.

Totally agree with this. Pity I can just agree in theory; prooving that is beyond my possibilities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Totally agree with this. Pity I can just agree in theory; prooving that is beyond my possibilities (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I would generally also agree... Manehattan is not a good use of Hath unless you reeeeeeeeally care about your arena turn counts and nothing else. And even then it's not going to perform miracles... it saved me about 200-300 turns on the old DWD as DW, but that's the best case scenario for its usage, where my damage was just right to allow me to time it perfectly every other round. A DD level would generally get you about 100 turns faster each or so (although the exact amount varies based on all sorts of factors).

If you have 25k hath available, though, the best thing you could do for your arena times is... switch to mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Nezu: Jul 26 2021, 20:38