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Jul 23 2021, 02:30
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Nyachin
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Hi,
I'd like to know your level of Adept Learner And at which point, it's worthy to spend credit on Thinking Cap instead of this?
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Jul 23 2021, 04:21
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sharmy
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QUOTE(Nyachin @ Jul 23 2021, 02:30)  Hi,
I'd like to know your level of Adept Learner And at which point, it's worthy to spend credit on Thinking Cap instead of this?
It really depends on your goal. If you just want Lv.400 to use all the gears, Adept Learner Lv.300 is enough. But if you want Lv.500, Adept Learner Lv.300 + Cybernetic Implants is recommended.
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Jul 23 2021, 05:22
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TheMonkeyMan
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Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
Also, spark of life claims it uses 50% of SP. For me it's always used 33% of SP. I've never understood why I can use it three times when all the guides say 2 times. Am I missing something obvious?
This post has been edited by TheMonkeyMan: Jul 23 2021, 05:25
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Jul 23 2021, 06:09
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(TheMonkeyMan @ Jul 23 2021, 10:22)  Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
Also, spark of life claims it uses 50% of SP. For me it's always used 33% of SP. I've never understood why I can use it three times when all the guides say 2 times. Am I missing something obvious?
How long battle can last depends on your connection actually... For reference I could finish Dance with Dragon arena in ~1hour, but people with better connection could finish it in 30-40mins even with higher turn... Try using Monsterbation script if you aren't yet using it, it speed up your play... Also try play in [ alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org and check which one is faster for you... Some people get better result in alt site... As for your question, yes you could leave the battle for a long time and come back as long you aren't flee from it... Spark of Life consume 50% of your base SP, which is from PABs... So if you slot Better SP tank ability, the SP consumed by SoL will took less than your total SP pool... This post has been edited by Greshnik: Jul 23 2021, 06:10
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Jul 23 2021, 06:14
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sharmy
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QUOTE(TheMonkeyMan @ Jul 23 2021, 05:22)  Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
Also, spark of life claims it uses 50% of SP. For me it's always used 33% of SP. I've never understood why I can use it three times when all the guides say 2 times. Am I missing something obvious?
I thought there isn't a timed-out, I have left the battle for an hour and it is still in battle. I haven't tested longer time.
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Jul 23 2021, 06:18
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(Nyachin @ Jul 22 2021, 19:30)  Hi,
I'd like to know your level of Adept Learner And at which point, it's worthy to spend credit on Thinking Cap instead of this?
Considering Thinking Cap is something like 10 hath per 1% increase and with current exchange prices that's like over 40k credits per 1% exp increase it takes until you've trained 270/300 levels of Adept Learner to be worth it as the last 30 levels are the ones that go from 40k to 50k cost. QUOTE(TheMonkeyMan @ Jul 22 2021, 22:22)  Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
Also, spark of life claims it uses 50% of SP. For me it's always used 33% of SP. I've never understood why I can use it three times when all the guides say 2 times. Am I missing something obvious?
I don't really know what's the max time before it times out (if ever) but I've taken over 140 hrs to clear a tower floor in the past so I'm sure at the very least you can take 6 days to clear stuff without worrying about it timing out. Thus feel free to go to sleep and come back later to finish your remaining challenges. Spark of Life and Spirit Shield are based on a percentage of your base Spirit, however I think the "SP tank" abilities aren't factored for this as they're sort of extra so it might be due to that. The Suffusive Spirit perk enhances said base spirit which is why unlike the tank abilities it's considered useless for many. Might need confirmation on this though.
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Jul 23 2021, 08:18
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GREGRE
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I just found this item in FSM: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274009624/bc6acfd637I didn't have a whole lot of interest in mage previously, but now I'm wondering if this would be worth using. I notice from https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=246193 that redwood is a decent staff type for wind element. But I'm not sure about the suffix. Is that a good one to have for this kind of item? I also noticed that the guide says that starting out as wind/elec isn't recommended and that I shouldn't be misled by staff quality. Does that change even if I have this?
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Jul 23 2021, 08:54
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sharmy
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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Jul 23 2021, 08:18)  I just found this item in FSM: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/274009624/bc6acfd637I didn't have a whole lot of interest in mage previously, but now I'm wondering if this would be worth using. I notice from https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=246193 that redwood is a decent staff type for wind element. But I'm not sure about the suffix. Is that a good one to have for this kind of item? I also noticed that the guide says that starting out as wind/elec isn't recommended and that I shouldn't be misled by staff quality. Does that change even if I have this? of Focus has 2 benefits: - ManaC - MAcc while of Destruction has 1: - MDB Since mage need to be offensive enough to keep safety, it's generally not recommended to use Focus Staff, but if: - Your level is low so you cannot get your MAcc > 200% to make MAcc "useless" - Your base mana value is low so you need to use elixir to restore. - You farm HV day and night and want to save mana potion. You may choose Focus Staff But this is Peerless Focus Staff so it's always usable/sellable, should be about 5-10m. This post has been edited by sharmy: Jul 23 2021, 09:38
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Jul 23 2021, 09:08
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Nezu
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QUOTE(TheMonkeyMan @ Jul 23 2021, 04:22)  Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
Battles don't ever time out as far as I know (and if they do, it's such a long time you'd forget you were in one).
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Jul 23 2021, 09:41
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GREGRE
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Jul 23 2021, 00:54)  of Focus has 2 benefits: - ManaC - MAcc while of Destruction has 1: - MDB
Since mage need to be offensive enough to keep safety, it's generally not recommended to use Focus Staff, but if: - Your level is low so you cannot get your MAcc > 200% to make MAcc "useless" - Your base mana value is low so you need to use elixir to restore. - You farm HV day and night and want to save mana potion. You may choose Focus Staff
But this is Peerless Focus Staff so it's always usable/sellable, should be about 5-10m.
Interesting. Sounds like it's not ideal but also not all that bad. I guess I'll stick with 1H for now and consider switching if I happen to come across a few good armor pieces. Thanks!
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Jul 23 2021, 10:09
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shamil11
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QUOTE(TheMonkeyMan @ Jul 22 2021, 20:22)  Can anyone tell me how long battles can last? Especially the arena or grindfest, sometimes they take hours to get though. Can I play for a bit then just leave it open and come back hours later or will it have timed out?
I've been really tempted with the arena to just stop playing and go to bed but I've always been worried it would be timed out and once I'm already 80+ rounds in I don't want to lose it.
I have often closed the browser late one night and come back to an arena the next afternoon, picked up right where I left off. I don't believe I have allowed one or more Dawns to pass, so I cannot comment on whether that effects things.
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Jul 23 2021, 15:37
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Paarfi
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QUOTE(shamil11 @ Jul 23 2021, 09:09)  I have often closed the browser late one night and come back to an arena the next afternoon, picked up right where I left off. I don't believe I have allowed one or more Dawns to pass, so I cannot comment on whether that effects things.
One dawn is definitely safe, it's often done on purpose - if you don't have the time to play today but can play tomorrow then start the highest arena so it counts against today's limit. Tomorrow you come back play the "yesterday" arena and then can play the same arena again because you didn't start it today. Given the general shape of things I suppose it takes between "months" and "never" for the battle to time out. 24 hours+ pause is definitely done relatively often and has no effect. This post has been edited by Paarfi: Jul 23 2021, 15:37
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Jul 23 2021, 17:23
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Nyachin
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Hi, Something is wrong with my arena list When i click the arena To Kill a God which is marked as 65 rounds, i do entered an arena of 65 rounds. But TKAG should be 80 rounds! I tried both with or without HV Utils, seems to be the same 
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Jul 23 2021, 17:26
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davidtsu
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Just tried the new level 400 arena "Post-Game Content", almost got killed by the last stage of 6 bosses as fire mage. I literally ran out of all the restoratives, especially spirit potion and exlir so life of sparkle could not be triggered. Luckily I survived and pass it with PFUDOR, but this dangerous experience forced me to think about it seriously.
1. I know this time it was in an extremely dangerous situation because I did not realize the the last stage will be that strong (Maybe because I chose 4 radiant not 4 charged), it was more like getting the first time ambush and I did not have any preparation. The next time I play this arena, I can at least pause in the second last round and do some preparation such as using infusion to get 25% EDB; making sure all the spells and restoratives CDs are gone; the overcharge bar is full and turned on the spirit stance to get more damage etc.
2. I think in the last round, use some other debuff magic should make it much easier, now the question will be: which debuff works best for fire mage in the last round of arena "Post-Game Content"? Some possible candidates are:
a. Slow: 6 boss moves less, but a critical attack can still trigger life of sparkle and lose spirit, which is the main problem? b. Weaken: So far I think the best solution because as long as the bosses deal less damage, I will not trigger life sparkle so I can cast cure or full-cure? c. Sleep: Seems to be good, but I don't know the success rate, how many rounds it will sleep, and the most important thing, its CD. If mobs only sleep a few rounds, and its CD is long, it will be a bad choice. d. Confuse: No idea at all, seems to be similar to sleep, but I doubt the number of rounds will low and its CD is long e. Blind: Seems to be similar to slow, reduce the bosses' successful attack rate, no idea f. Silence: Seems to be good, as it disable bosses' critical attack, but still doubt its length and CD. g. Magnet: Seems to be good though the evade debuff may be not useful for me as a willow staff fire mage.
Any experienced players give some suggestions? All the debuff are under an assumption that I have enough remaining ability points to FULLY upgrade one of the debuff upgrade to the current top level (For example, faster weaken and better weaken will both be upgraded as high as my current level can)
Thanks guys.
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Jul 23 2021, 17:28
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(Nyachin @ Jul 23 2021, 22:23)  Hi, Something is wrong with my arena list When i click the arena To Kill a God which is marked as 65 rounds, i do entered an arena of 65 rounds. But TKAG should be 80 rounds! I tried both with or without HV Utils, seems to be the same  Today HV got an update which revamp the arena... Check it here... This post has been edited by Nezu: Jul 23 2021, 17:42
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Jul 23 2021, 17:50
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Nyachin
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jul 23 2021, 17:28)  Today HV got an update which revamp the arena... Check it here... Thanks for the information So Dwd now has only 90 rounds, good news
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Jul 23 2021, 18:08
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jul 23 2021, 17:26)  I literally ran out of all the restoratives, especially spirit potion and exlir
Even Final Elixir? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jul 23 2021, 18:18
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SPoison
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jul 23 2021, 08:26)  -snip-
Weaken and Magnet is what I used, slow might be good. Sleep is bad because that have a big chance of waking up if you hit them with spell.
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Jul 23 2021, 19:04
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sharmy
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jul 23 2021, 17:26)  ~
I've heard that FUS RO DAH (FRD) is a good choice. When mobs were stummed by 5 rounds, cast all the debuff you want to (weaken+silence should be more than enough) I'll test if that works well tomorrow, especially when the equipments are junk-tie.
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Jul 23 2021, 20:44
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dibdib
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Jul 23 2021, 20:04)  I've heard that FUS RO DAH (FRD) is a good choice. When mobs were stummed by 5 rounds, cast all the debuff you want to (weaken+silence should be more than enough) I'll test if that works well tomorrow, especially when the equipments are junk-tie.
Save enough overcharge for two. It makes last round trivial.
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