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I think it's better to shrine them and sell the Energy Drink from it...
In the long run it's more profitable than selling the artifact directly...

Yeah, after you've already gotten all your PABs - before that, you have to factor in how much you'd pay for those.

Yeah, after you've already gotten all your PABs - before that, you have to factor in how much you'd pay for those.

Though I think you can sell energy drinks faster than precursors in HVmarket. Either way, I think the most important factor is if you want to gamble or not. Shrine your precursors and maybe you'll get all energy drinks, maybe you'll only get last elixirs.

Do you have the deprecating proficiency?

You're absolutely right. I haven't casted a single deprecating spells in Isekai and was on 1 prof.

Turns out I'm just a potato. Thank you for that.

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Does donation gives hath? I've read somewhere every dollar is 1 hath or something like that?

This post has been edited by safmy: Jul 15 2021, 11:15

You're absolutely right. I haven't casted a single deprecating spells in Isekai and was on 1 prof.

Turns out I'm just a potato. Thank you for that.

edit:

Does donation gives hath? I've read somewhere every dollar is 1 hath or something like that?

I don't think so, when I got the goldstar, I remember I only got 1m credits, no hath.
BTW, as a non-English speaker, it takes me a few minutes to know what you mean by potato, by reading the explanation in urban dictionary lol. Made my day.

You're absolutely right. I haven't casted a single deprecating spells in Isekai and was on 1 prof.

Turns out I'm just a potato. Thank you for that.

edit:

Does donation gives hath? I've read somewhere every dollar is 1 hath or something like that?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation#Rewards

I'd guess you're conflating the 10,000 credits per $1 with the daily Hath from stars.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation#Rewards

I'd guess you're conflating the 10,000 credits per $1 with the daily Hath from stars.

No it was a different page to this one. I'll have to find it.

I'm a potato but even I can tell the difference between 1 and 10,000.

More specifically, my query is: How does one gain instant hath through donations?

I've already got servers going etc but I'm rather impatient.

There is no "instant" hath through donations (natively), just instant credits
The ways of gaining hath through donations are:
adopt a server: you get 10-15 hath a day (iirc)
Selling directly to another user for hath (or to credits and converting to hath through the exchange)
Daily hath through number of stars https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation

You can also convert the credits from direct donations or credits from dawn to hath

1 dollar gives 10,000 credits, which at the current rate is about 2 and a bit hath

Anything you've read that says $1 to x hath is very likely to be from a user guide, and not officially from the site, relating to a rough conversion using the exchange

There are some bounties that mention a $ to hath exchange rate (usually based on gold star selling rate), such as https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=16652

but this is from the bounty poster, not from donation

For those who have very high proficiency (590+), how long does it take to get an additional point of prof?

I mostly do high-exp arenas and IW in a peerless shade of the arcanist and it currently takes about 100 IWs / prof point.

I think the only way I can speed it up is more catgirl levels or waiting for the end-of-year awards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

When you are really at the last few prof points arena is not the way to go. It is doing fest, fest, more fest, even more fest and when you are dont with that start finally doing some fest and at the end of the day you do a few more fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

When you are really at the last few prof points arena is not the way to go. It is doing fest, fest, more fest, even more fest and when you are dont with that start finally doing some fest and at the end of the day you do a few more fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Why would you ever do fest when IW has a higher EXP bonus?

For the crystal packs, if you have a few levels of crystal perk and can survive the full thing, it becomes more worth it since its profit + exp. There's also a higher monster density in grindfest. I think if you have a suitable pxp armour, and you don't care about the crystal packs (or if you can't survive a full fest), IW is definitely the way to go.

For me, I do IW on a peerless arcanist, I can do fests but I only have crystal perk 2, and as I do fests as 1h mage, it also takes me a lot of time, so its generally easier to do IW when I can fit it in a schedule far easier than a fest which I have to change my schedule around

I don't care about profit, I already have enough credits/GP/hath that I have basically nothing to spend them on. This was my main question:

For those who have very high proficiency (590+), how long does it take to get an additional point of prof?

If I am wrong about the high-EXP arenas (To Kill a God, Eve of Death, Trio and the Tree, End of Days, DwD) and peerless shade arcanist IW being most efficient for EXP, that would also be nice to know.

uh, arenas are changing so I don't know for sure in the future, but I think its somethign like:
Dwd < TT to 70 (skipping 125 and 110) < high pxp IW (but I could be off on that)

Edit: thats based on stamina efficiency, but if credits really are no concern, its probably better doing most if not all second page arenas and mitigating the stamina loss with energy drinks

This post has been edited by Shank: Jul 16 2021, 19:09

I don't care about profit, I already have enough credits/GP/hath that I have basically nothing to spend them on. This was my main question:
If I am wrong about the high-EXP arenas (To Kill a God, Eve of Death, Trio and the Tree, End of Days, DwD) and peerless shade arcanist IW being most efficient for EXP, that would also be nice to know.

No, you are correct - it's just really fucking slow to grind prof at that point, even with your donation level and awards. The only way to get it is to just... play more.

600 prof wasn't really ever meant to be a goal and it wasn't really designed to be especially achievable. It's just the end-point as a byproduct of the prof cap being 1.2x your level.

600 prof wasn't really ever meant to be a goal and it wasn't really designed to be especially achievable.

Yeah, i am pretty sure you could say the same about other things we did over the years. I mean just remember the whole FoS story.

I'm not sure I understand how to set up multiple monsterbation profiles.

Am I supposed to copy paste the entire settings(minus profiles, I assume) inside the "settings" property of the objects in the persona arrays then edit it?

An example might be appreciated, thanks!


Edit:
Another question. In isekai, is making a mage persona for farming arenas quicker a good idea?

I thought so and got myself a magnificent set but I'm starting to doubt my decision.
It's not actually faster than 1h in IWBTH since I'm spending so many turns healing and drinking potions that I don't even dare trying PFUDOR with it. The zero block combined with low parry and mitigation means even basic attacks from monsters wear me down so quickly I often have to heal before even getting them all imperil'd.

The relevant proficiencies are still only about 80% of my level so I guess it will be faster than 1h once I raise them some more but that's still only IWBTH. I'm wondering if the lack of assimilator and hath perks in isekai means I'll have to spend too much on equipment to compensate.

Should I scrap the idea and stick with 1h(where I don't need to heal much even in PFUDOR with a magnificents) for both tower climb and arenas? Or can it get better than 1h in PFUDOR without much more credit investment? I guess I can invest into a set of plain legendaries for 1-2M, but would that be enough to surpass 1h?

This post has been edited by Jake643: Jul 17 2021, 12:08

I'm not sure I understand how to set up multiple monsterbation profiles.

Am I supposed to copy paste the entire settings(minus profiles, I assume) inside the "settings" property of the objects in the persona arrays then edit it?

An example might be appreciated, thanks!
Edit:
Another question. In isekai, is making a mage persona for farming arenas quicker a good idea?

I thought so and got myself a magnificent set but I'm starting to doubt my decision.
It's not actually faster than 1h in IWBTH since I'm spending so many turns healing and drinking potions that I don't even dare trying PFUDOR with it. The zero block combined with low parry and mitigation means even basic attacks from monsters wear me down so quickly I often have to heal before even getting them all imperil'd.

The relevant proficiencies are still only about 80% of my level so I guess it will be faster than 1h once I raise them some more but that's still only IWBTH. I'm wondering if the lack of assimilator and hath perks in isekai means I'll have to spend too much on equipment to compensate.

Should I scrap the idea and stick with 1h(where I don't need to heal much even in PFUDOR with a magnificents) for both tower climb and arenas? Or can it get better than 1h in PFUDOR without much more credit investment? I guess I can invest into a set of plain legendaries for 1-2M, but would that be enough to surpass 1h?

You just need to edit something you want to change from the "basic" setting

That's weird, what's your build and level? is there any mistake or just lack of proficiency? my build in last season is this with a magnificent tempestous willow staff of destruction, which can farm IWBTH arena like a wind

I'm not sure I understand how to set up multiple monsterbation profiles.

Am I supposed to copy paste the entire settings(minus profiles, I assume) inside the "settings" property of the objects in the persona arrays then edit it?

An example might be appreciated, thanks!
Edit:
Another question. In isekai, is making a mage persona for farming arenas quicker a good idea?

I thought so and got myself a magnificent set but I'm starting to doubt my decision.
It's not actually faster than 1h in IWBTH since I'm spending so many turns healing and drinking potions that I don't even dare trying PFUDOR with it. The zero block combined with low parry and mitigation means even basic attacks from monsters wear me down so quickly I often have to heal before even getting them all imperil'd.

The relevant proficiencies are still only about 80% of my level so I guess it will be faster than 1h once I raise them some more but that's still only IWBTH. I'm wondering if the lack of assimilator and hath perks in isekai means I'll have to spend too much on equipment to compensate.

Should I scrap the idea and stick with 1h(where I don't need to heal much even in PFUDOR with a magnificents) for both tower climb and arenas? Or can it get better than 1h in PFUDOR without much more credit investment? I guess I can invest into a set of plain legendaries for 1-2M, but would that be enough to surpass 1h?

I would recommend 1h mage for faster arena grinding. All magnificent is enough for 1h mage. Last season, I only switched to full mage after I got the first Peerless staff. And a legendary robe of elementalist.

You just need to edit something you want to change from the "basic" setting

That's weird, what's your build and level? is there any mistake or just lack of proficiency? my build in last season is this with a magnificent tempestous willow staff of destruction, which can farm IWBTH arena like a wind

Ah, I see. So it would look like this?
name: 'persona 1', settings: {startRoundWithHover: false, etc, etc},

Also, do I need to set the name attribute to match the in-game persona name or is it just the first persona slot, then the 2nd, etc. irrespective of the name?

I'm level 312. I also haven't done any upgrades yet so that's also a big difference.

I would recommend 1h mage for faster arena grinding. All magnificent is enough for 1h mage. Last season, I only switched to full mage after I got the first Peerless staff. And a legendary robe of elementalist.

How does 1h mage work?
Is it just replacing the staff with waki of battlecaster+shield? Are force shields' extreme interference ok or would I need a buckler of barrier? Should I go for more prof from armor to hit the effective prof goals since 1h lack prof bonus?

This post has been edited by Jake643: Jul 17 2021, 14:42

uh, arenas are changing so I don't know for sure in the future, but I think its somethign like:
Dwd < TT to 70 (skipping 125 and 110) < high pxp IW (but I could be off on that)

Edit: thats based on stamina efficiency, but if credits really are no concern, its probably better doing most if not all second page arenas and mitigating the stamina loss with energy drinks

I don't think the 70 and 75 round arenas are worth it. 125 is definitely not worth it. 110 is marginal, but I do it for the tokens.

No, you are correct - it's just really fucking slow to grind prof at that point, even with your donation level and awards. The only way to get it is to just... play more.

600 prof wasn't really ever meant to be a goal and it wasn't really designed to be especially achievable. It's just the end-point as a byproduct of the prof cap being 1.2x your level.

Yes, it is definitely a grind. I was mainly trying to get a quantitative idea of how much of a grind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Though people used to say that about getting to level 500 (which had the exp requirements reduced). Or getting Follower of Snowflake (which got changed to do something slightly more useful). Or finishing all the trainings. Etc.

Prof even got changed to be exp-based, though I'm not sure whether that made it easier or harder to grind. (Gone are the days where you could grind staff prof by hitting the FSM for six hours straight.)