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After reading the tutorial, I still have some questions about transferring to mage from 1H.

1. What is a better combination?

2. How to boost the prof for cloth and staff?

3. I know mage farms arena much faster than 1H in term of turns, but how about in term of real world time?

1. Most mages tend to keep a combination of 3 Phase + 2 Cloth(Cap, Gloves, or Shoes), or 4 Phase + 1 Cloth(Robe) if they have enough base proficiency, in order to squeeze a bit extra elemental damage bonus.

The proficiency factor exists in order to deal with the specific elemental mitigation that high power level monsters have from being fed loads of crystals, and then you can put imperil on top of that in order to cut down their base magical mitigation, bringing them closer to 1~2 hit kills, which mages are all about.

2. Staff prof can be earned passively by casting spells, and cloth, just like any armor, is earned when you take damage.

As for elemental prof, you'll require forging, picking up your specific Hath Perk that grants extra 10% proficiency, or simply grinding out proficiency in battles.

3. Depends on your t/s, how used you are to fighting as a mage, what difficulty you are playing in, and how much focus you are putting on HV.

As a mage with fully forged gear, I can easily clear PFUDOR DwD in under 30 mins if I'm paying attention, but if I'm watching youtube or reading a novel, it can take me upwards of 1h if I get lazy and stop imperiling monsters properly, and just hover over them until they are dead.

Just like 1H, all you have to cast at the start is Regen and Arcane Focus instead of Heartseeker, besides your other supportive spells in case you don't have Innate Arcana perks unlocked yet, or aren't using scrolls. Pressing 1, 2, 3 to cast imperil on everything and then hovering monsters becomes muscle memory pretty fast.

As a final note, you don't have to dive straight into PFUDOR when you are just getting started, so even doing your arenas on Hell at first, and then slowly dipping your toes on Nintendo+ to get a feel of what you can handle with your current build is totally fine.

Don't be stingy on forging upgrades, and definitely upgrade your staff as much as possible, as it's the cheapest to forge. While phazons and high-grade cloth are expensive, elemental spell damage upgrades for your phase gear are essential to become a proper glass canon.

Aiming for the Dæmon Duality Hath perks is also something you'll have to keep in mind as a mage, as they might offer bigger damage increases than investing in forging the last 10 or so upgrades for your phase gear.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/272874369/f2376e52b2
I seriously doubt if i should reforge it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

After reading the tutorial, I still have some questions about transferring to mage from 1H.

1. I will probably begin with element mage, depends on the equip I can collect...

2. How to boost the prof for cloth and staff?

3. I know mage farms arena much faster than 1H in term of turns, but how about in term of real world time?

Thanks,

1. get Eminent Elementalist and cotton gloves or cap.

2. I personally think you can ignore them.

3. my PFDwD takes me 15 minutes, I have DD1 only and this is my rob.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/272874369/f2376e52b2
I seriously doubt if i should reforge it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Depend on if you have a plan to get a new one, if so, don't invest too much to the transfer equipment

As for Cloth armor prof, if you bothering about it too much, you can wear 1 piece of cloth instead of piece of heavy armor and play with it, it would slow you down but will levelup cloth armor prof.

here i just did RE wearing phase shoes:

You gain 0.007 points of heavy armor proficiency.
You gain 0.028 points of cloth armor proficiency.
You gain 0.008 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
You gain 0.008 points of supportive magic proficiency.
You gain 7103509 EXP!

You should achieve that by forging - trying to play mage unforged will make your experience miserable. (It's a glass cannon style - so if you cheap out and replace the cannon with a nerf gun...)
It's not that bad, the prof you get from dawns should be more than enough to get you started, and then beyond that - if PFUDOR is too hard, try IWBTH.
Yeah, it's still way faster in real time. Yes, it requires more keyboard actions, but not that bad - it's basically press 1, 2, 3, recast if any imperils missed, then start hovering.

How much faster? Depends on your investment. I can do every battle in the arena in under 45 minutes.

you upgrade your staff proficiency and that 2 cloth to reach your target proficiency, this is the bare minimum upgrade for mage.
you'll be amazed how fast low proficiency increase, imagine increasing your level from lvl 300 to 350 using your lvl 400 exp revenue (lvl 400 to 401 need 7.5billion exp, by the time you reach lvl 350 you just barely collect about 30billion exp), don't think it too hard, it will catch up sooner than you thought.
bind 123 to casting imperil to the 2nd, 5th, and 8th monsters (or 8-5-2 your choice) that should cover everything, then use hover with strongest spell setting for T3-2-1 spell
I bind 4 to the T3 spell as that usually enough to clear most monster to start the round, then hover strongest T2-1 to clear the rest.
cure and buff is the same as 1h, only change heartseeker with arcane focus, and don't have to bother with spirit stance.
also, you shouldn't need scrolls for arena.

I have never modifed the util script since downloaded, because it is already set 1 2 3 to caste imperil to monster 2 5 8 respectively. But how to set other hotkeys? For example, 4 now is simply melee attack monster 4, and I also want to set hotkey for OFC, shadow veil, etc. Maybe I have to modify the script code? How to do that? And how to set hover mouse from melee attach to specific damage magic?

As a mage with fully forged gear, I can easily clear PFUDOR DwD in under 30 mins if I'm paying attention, but if I'm watching youtube or reading a novel, it can take me upwards of 1h if I get lazy and stop imperiling monsters properly, and just hover over them until they are dead.

Just like 1H, all you have to cast at the start is Regen and Arcane Focus instead of Heartseeker, besides your other supportive spells in case you don't have Innate Arcana perks unlocked yet, or aren't using scrolls. Pressing 1, 2, 3 to cast imperil on everything and then hovering monsters becomes muscle memory pretty fast.

I think 1 2 3 will imperil at most monster 1-9, how about the last one if there are 10 monsters in a round? Manually caste imperil on it? That will cost extra a few seconds.

1. get Eminent Elementalist and cotton gloves or cap.

2. I personally think you can ignore them.

3. my PFDwD takes me 15 minutes, I have DD1 only and this is my rob.

Eminent mage equips are insanely expensive, honestly my budget is 100m (will be bankrupt if use all my 100m credits) for the whole mage set, but I feel like I will not be able to get a decent element equip set within 100m, considering I have to forge them to a decent level, IW 5 lv juggernaut at least, then even buy soul fragment to soulbound them. So probably 8m per equip buying, which is around 50m total for staff+5 cloth, then 50m for forging materials, IW juggarnaut, soulfragment, prof hath perks maybe? Any suggestion about how to distribute my 100m for a mage set? (currently have no mage equip, 7 phazon, a few other useful bindings, 4k soul fragment)

As for Cloth armor prof, if you bothering about it too much, you can wear 1 piece of cloth instead of piece of heavy armor and play with it, it would slow you down but will levelup cloth armor prof.

here i just did RE wearing phase shoes:

Great idea for 1H actually, because replace one heavy with cloth will lose some physical mit due to cloth provides low phy mit, and lose all the heavy abilities, which is some health, and slash, crush, piercing mit, which hurts but not that bad.


This post has been edited by davidtsu: Jul 9 2021, 19:02

Eminent mage equips are insanely expensive, honestly my budget is 100m (will be bankrupt if use all my 100m credits) for the whole mage set, but I feel like I will not be able to get a decent element equip set within 100m, considering I have to forge them to a decent level, IW 5 lv juggernaut at least, then even buy soul fragment to soulbound them. So probably 8m per equip buying, which is around 50m total for staff+5 cloth, then 50m for forging materials, IW juggarnaut, soulfragment, prof hath perks maybe? Any suggestion about how to distribute my 100m for a mage set? (currently have no mage equip, 7 phazon, a few other useful bindings, 4k soul fragment)

Charged. Radiants of elements are cheap now.
idk about descent set, but a set that allow to clear PF DwD in 15-20 min? Easily.
My today time is 13 min. LRSD fully forged only on MDB and EDB, 4+1 with cotton robe, cheap radiants with 20-50%% forged to 5-10. Only 15 Jug total on cloth. Probably less than 100m total.

Charged. Radiants of elements are cheap now.
idk about descent set, but a set that allow to clear PF DwD in 15-20 min? Easily.
My today time is 13 min. LRSD fully forged only on MDB and EDB, 4+1 with cotton robe, cheap radiants with 20-50%% forged to 5-10. Only 15 Jug total on cloth. Probably less than 100m total.

What does LRSD mean?
Also, should I try to buy charged or radiant? I think at this moment I will only do arena most of the time. Probably won't do much IW, and never grindfest. So I am worried about the survival problem if I buy radiant. Maybe 3 charged 2 radiant? What combination is generally considered safe enough if I onlly do arena and blood of rings?

Any suggestion about how to distribute my 100m for a mage set?

if you want to do PFest, buy 5 charged. no matter the rolls, I think 5-10m each is enough for a low roll (EDB < 50%) charged (also, use cotton gloves/cap instead of shoes, which is too expensive). and a ~10m staff, then 5p4s (4.5m), 5j (3.5m), staff full-forge (13m), cotton's EProf full-forge (3m), and invest everything else to cloth forge.

if you only do AR, buy equipments showed in my signature (since you have more credit, you can get better gears than mine), don't worry the safety, 4 radiant is safe enough in AR/RE/RoB.

What does LRSD mean?
Also, should I try to buy charged or radiant?

LRSD = Legendary Redwood Staff of Destruction, which is what you'll want as an elemental mage.

As for charged or radiant, I don't use a single piece of them, and still clear PFUDOR arenas without a sweat.

I only really struggle in late PFUDOR IW and Grindfest 600+, but if I play on IWBTH I can easily clear all 1000 grindfest rounds, needless to say about IWs.

Here's my dark mage equip:
Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction

Peerless Frugal Phase Cap of Fenrir
Legendary Ruby Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend
Peerless Amber Phase Gloves of Fenrir
Peerless Jade Phase Pants of Fenrir
Legendary Frugal Phase Shoes of Fenrir

Definitely not top tier stuff, but the forging more than makes up for the lack of a good prefix.

As long as you get any Legendary set for starters, forge the elemental spell damage on the phase pieces, and the elemental proficiency on the cloth, and you'll be good to go.

As I mentioned before, just go ham and upgrade your staff all the way, as it'll be the cheapest part of the set in terms of forge materials.

What combination is generally considered safe enough if I onlly do arena and blood of rings?

I did today's PFDwD

You can see, 4 Radiant is very safe even without any forge. no spark, no elixir, and even no spirit potion!
IDK if my set is descent or not, but my set cost me 30m (iw forge perk included), which is far cheaper than 100m

LRSD = Legendary Redwood Staff of Destruction, which is what you'll want as an elemental mage.

Thanks, I did not know S means redwood staff here, I can guess L=legenary, R=radiant, D=destruction, no idea about S. I thought people will use W= willow, O=Oak, R=redwood, K=katalox etc.

You can see, 4 Radiant is very safe even without any forge. no spark, no elixir, and even no spirit potion!
IDK if my set is descent or not, but my set cost me 30m (iw forge perk included), which is far cheaper than 100m

You set is pretty good, and even you made it within 30m! But for mage set, the marginal gain is very limited. You may have to invest a lot more credits and only get a little bit more stats. I am even considering get some non-charged-non-radiant equips with high stats of magic damage, physical mit, intelligence, wisdom etc, because I think most mage players are hardcore and they treat those non-charged-non-radiant clothes as "trash".

By the way, your battle script looks different than mine and seems to be better, which battle util script do you use? Is it free to download?

Thanks, I did not know S means redwood staff here, I can guess L=legenary, R=radiant, D=destruction, no idea about S. I thought people will use W= willow, O=Oak, R=redwood, K=katalox etc.

That's not a normal acronym - he may be mistaking it for LSRD, which would be Legendary, Shocking, Redwood, Destruction.

By the way, your battle script looks different than mine and seems to be better, which battle util script do you use? Is it free to download?

That's just Monsterbation with some different settings.

Thanks, I did not know S means redwood staff here, I can guess L=legenary, R=radiant, D=destruction, no idea about S. I thought people will use W= willow, O=Oak, R=redwood, K=katalox etc.

L = Legendary
R = Redwood
S = Staff
D = Destruction

The elemental prefix depends on your chosen element, so Fiery for fire mage, Artic for cold, and etc.

For wind and elec, you'll probably do better getting a Willow Staff, as they also have elemental proficiency and base wind and elec spell damage, with the bonus counter spell resistance, which redwood staves don't naturally have.

You set is pretty good, and even you made it within 30m! But for mage set, the marginal gain is very limited. You may have to invest a lot more credits and only get a little bit more stats. I am even considering get some non-charged-non-radiant equips with high stats of magic damage, physical mit, intelligence, wisdom etc, because I think most mage players are hardcore and they treat those non-charged-non-radiant clothes as "trash".

Something of my feeling:
DD1: 10% (8m)
full-forge staff: ~8%? (10m?, Int&Wis exclude)
Eminent Elementalist + full-forge cotton's EProf + switch 3+2 to 4+1: ~8%? (7m?, must be done after staff's full-forge)
4 Radiant: ~5%? (~10m)
DD2: 5% (16m)
lv.10 forge for all cloth: ~5%? (18m?)
DD3: 5% (24m)
...

This days trash (EDB<50%) Radiant is already cheap (< 4m), they should still outperform Peerless "Prefixless" gears if you only do AR.

That's not a normal acronym - he may be mistaking it for LSRD, which would be Legendary, Shocking, Redwood, Destruction.

This. Mistyped.

I have never modifed the util script since downloaded, because it is already set 1 2 3 to caste imperil to monster 2 5 8 respectively. But how to set other hotkeys? For example, 4 now is simply melee attack monster 4, and I also want to set hotkey for OFC, shadow veil, etc. Maybe I have to modify the script code? How to do that? And how to set hover mouse from melee attach to specific damage magic?
I think 1 2 3 will imperil at most monster 1-9, how about the last one if there are 10 monsters in a round? Manually caste imperil on it? That will cost extra a few seconds.

the documentation on how to set up the script is all inside it
change the nothing on hover action to spell you wants to rotate (example on the ctrl/shift/alt hover action)
to change keybind, add keybind on the bottom (those bind key_*; example is also there)
make a copy and play around with that, it is quite harmless, if you broke it you have a copy so, all dandy.
about the 10th monster, once again, you don't have to worry too much, even without imperil you should be able to kill it fast enough, if you still wants that guy imperiled, just add another keybind to imperil it (10th monsters is targetmonster 9 iinm)

Eminent mage equips are insanely expensive, honestly my budget is 100m (will be bankrupt if use all my 100m credits) for the whole mage set, but I feel like I will not be able to get a decent element equip set within 100m, considering I have to forge them to a decent level, IW 5 lv juggernaut at least, then even buy soul fragment to soulbound them. So probably 8m per equip buying, which is around 50m total for staff+5 cloth, then 50m for forging materials, IW juggarnaut, soulfragment, prof hath perks maybe? Any suggestion about how to distribute my 100m for a mage set? (currently have no mage equip, 7 phazon, a few other useful bindings, 4k soul fragment)

If you chase for high-end mage equip and upgrade, of course you're going to be drowned with the cost. full upgrade of a phase armor could easily go above 20mil (the phazon itself is 10-15mil already)
Even then, that kind of setup is only necessary for PFGrindfest, you don't need even 10% of that for mere arena.
Which is why, just upgrade the necessary one first, staff proficiency and cloth proficiency, 0.7 prof factor is EASY on a 3+2 setup - if you upgrade them.



That is hvutils' proficiency calculator on the equipment page if you're curious.
lvl 50 upgrade is like, how much, 3m-4m? that's with 50% proficiency equip with base prof 50 level below your level and no prof perk. With prof perk, base prof around your level, and a better equipment prof factor 0.9x+ is attainable even if you use glove-shoes instead of glove-cap, even easier if you use robe or pants as one of the prof equipment (not recommended as you'll lose quite a lot of EDB from them, but it is possible to play 4+1 setup with one of them).
You could also upgrade your evade, resist, PAB on your cloth depends on how much your remaining materials is. Upgrade just 5-15 on your phase is nice but not necessary, just use your 7 phazon for 5 and 2 level upgrade on your robe and pants.
upgrading MDB, PAB, on your staff also quite cheap (I believe the expensive part is the binding of destruction).
Just do 5 to 15 upgrades on those other stuff depends on your budget, those first few level is the one which give the most upgrade and you could reclaim 90% of the material through salvaging if you found anything better.

Great idea for 1H actually, because replace one heavy with cloth will lose some physical mit due to cloth provides low phy mit, and lose all the heavy abilities, which is some health, and slash, crush, piercing mit, which hurts but not that bad.

no, really, you don't need to do this at all, the day of having to grind proficiency just so you could play it is gone, prodiciency growth is 2x/4x your exp (can't remember), it is fast and with daily proficiency from dawn your proficiency shouldn't trailing that far behind that warrant you to actually grind it up.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jul 10 2021, 11:24

Eminent mage equips are insanely expensive, honestly my budget is 100m (will be bankrupt if use all my 100m credits) for the whole mage set, but I feel like I will not be able to get a decent element equip set within 100m, considering I have to forge them to a decent level, IW 5 lv juggernaut at least, then even buy soul fragment to soulbound them. So probably 8m per equip buying, which is around 50m total for staff+5 cloth, then 50m for forging materials, IW juggarnaut, soulfragment, prof hath perks maybe? Any suggestion about how to distribute my 100m for a mage set? (currently have no mage equip, 7 phazon, a few other useful bindings, 4k soul fragment)

I believe something was lost in translation here - 'Eminent Elementalist' is the name of a Hath perk that raises Elemental proficiency, not a description of gear quality (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

the documentation on how to set up the script is all inside it
change the nothing on hover action to spell you wants to rotate (example on the ctrl/shift/alt hover action)
to change keybind, add keybind on the bottom (those bind key_*; example is also there)
make a copy and play around with that, it is quite harmless, if you broke it you have a copy so, all dandy.
about the 10th monster, once again, you don't have to worry too much, even without imperil you should be able to kill it fast enough, if you still wants that guy imperiled, just add another keybind to imperil it (10th monsters is targetmonster 9 iinm)
If you chase for high-end mage equip and upgrade, of course you're going to be drowned with the cost. full upgrade of a phase armor could easily go above 20mil (the phazon itself is 10-15mil already)
Even then, that kind of setup is only necessary for PFGrindfest, you don't need even 10% of that for mere arena.
Which is why, just upgrade the necessary one first, staff proficiency and cloth proficiency, 0.7 prof factor is EASY on a 3+2 setup - if you upgrade them.



That is hvutils' proficiency calculator on the equipment page if you're curious.
lvl 50 upgrade is like, how much, 3m-4m? that's with 50% proficiency equip with base prof 50 level below your level and no prof perk. With prof perk, base prof around your level, and a better equipment prof factor 0.9x+ is attainable even if you use glove-shoes instead of glove-cap, even easier if you use robe or pants as one of the prof equipment (not recommended as you'll lose quite a lot of EDB from them, but it is possible to play 4+1 setup with one of them).
You could also upgrade your evade, resist, PAB on your cloth depends on how much your remaining materials is. Upgrade just 5-15 on your phase is nice but not necessary, just use your 7 phazon for 5 and 2 level upgrade on your robe and pants.
upgrading MDB, PAB, on your staff also quite cheap (I believe the expensive part is the binding of destruction).
Just do 5 to 15 upgrades on those other stuff depends on your budget, those first few level is the one which give the most upgrade and you could reclaim 90% of the material through salvaging if you found anything better.
no, really, you don't need to do this at all, the day of having to grind proficiency just so you could play it is gone, prodiciency growth is 2x/4x your exp (can't remember), it is fast and with daily proficiency from dawn your proficiency shouldn't trailing that far behind that warrant you to actually grind it up.

Thank you for your detailed explanation. I will follow your suggestion and forge my equip recently. As for now I will only do arena so probably won't spend too much on phase cloth.

I believe something was lost in translation here - 'Eminent Elementalist' is the name of a Hath perk that raises Elemental proficiency, not a description of gear quality (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Right, my mistakes. The eminent elementalist hath perk just gives 10% more elem prof right? Does the total elem prof always get 10% more? In other word, no matter it is unlocked early or late, this perk always give 10% more from the base, so whether unlock it early or late has no difference?

Right, my mistakes. The eminent elementalist hath perk just gives 10% more elem prof right? Does the total elem prof always get 10% more? In other word, no matter it is unlocked early or late, this perk always give 10% more from the base, so whether unlock it early or late has no difference?

It makes no difference when you unlock it, no, it's as you say - it always gives 10% of your base proficiency (the part you earned from levelling, not the part you get from gear).

Hi, I'm jumping back into the game after a year or two of inactivity.

What should I be looking out for now today?

I am currently equipped with a 2h/light armor setup. And I'm just all of my healing spells to survive Hell difficulty (I know the wiki says otherwise, but that was years ago).

I've changed my difficulty back.

Am I really expected to grind normal/hard until I hit Lv200+?

Should I be posting my equipment stats?

I don't know how strong I'm supposed to be at this stage. How do I know if I've done something wrong at this stage?