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I'm a novice and started playing this game a few days ago. Now I'm using 1H and I want to know why buckler is better than kite shield? It seems that kite shield has higher block chance than buckler at the same level, which I think is important for 1H.

AFAIK this is misconception...
The one that better than kite shield is only Buckler of Barrier, not every buckler > kite...
This is because buckler of barrier gets inc. block chance, so it could outperform kite shield...
So the correct order is Force Shield > Buckler of Barrier > Kite Shield > the rest of Buckler...

Another question is that I bought a Legendary Ethereal Axe of the Banshee from the equipment shop yesterday. It has 88% ADB and level 305(my level is 226 and the weapon I'm using now is an exquisite rapier of slaughter). I know it isn't the best but could I use it as a transition equipment instead of a rapier? Since a legendary rapier of slaughter is too expensive for me.
Not a native English speaker, please excuse me if I say anything offensive.

I would at least search for weapon of slaughter rather than banshe for main weapon...
If rapier out of reach you could try shortsword or waki which you could get for less than rapier...

Edit:
Got sniped lol...

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Jul 7 2021, 10:37

I'm a little shocked to hear that a legendary ethereal axe is worse than an exquisite rapier of slaughter. So an axe of slaughter would be a better choice? Or should I never consider using an axe no matter how good it is?

I'm a little shocked to hear that a legendary ethereal axe is worse than an exquisite rapier of slaughter. So an axe of slaughter would be a better choice? Or should I never consider using an axe no matter how good it is?

Not worse, but I believe the improvement is small enough that it's not worth even as transitional weapon...
Heck, I even used this rapier till lv. ~300...
Not to mention the soul fragment needed to use it...
You could install live percentile script to compare both weapon, don't forget to scale it to your lv...

as for axe compared to other weapon, some people found that the lack of parry make it worse than shortsword for 1h...
Ref:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...3&st=30200#
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5800380
I believe Basara also tested waki, but I couldn't find it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I'm a little shocked to hear that a legendary ethereal axe is worse than an exquisite rapier of slaughter. So an axe of slaughter would be a better choice? Or should I never consider using an axe no matter how good it is?

a Legendary Axe of Slaughter should be as well as Magnificent Rapier of Slaughter, or it would be worse if the Power Armors are not good enough or the difficulty is high enough.

Shortsword is better than Axe for 1H-melee, so I gave this order:

Leg. Rapier Slau. > Mag. Rapier Slau. > Leg. Shortsword Slau. > Mag. Shortsword Slau. ≈ Leg. Axe Slau. > Leg. Rapier non-Slau.

The order is not universal. with worse Armors and/or higher difficulty, Rapier becomes more powerful, for a PFUDOR run with junk (Exq./Sup.) Plate armors, I've heard that even Superior Rapier would outperform Legendary Shortsword/Axe. And with end-the-game Power armors, Legendary Shortsword can perform as well as Legendary Rapier.

a Legendary Axe of Slaughter should be as well as Magnificent Rapier of Slaughter, or it would be worse if the Power Armors are not good enough or the difficulty is high enough.

Shortsword is better than Axe for 1H-melee, so I gave this order:

Leg. Rapier Slau. > Mag. Rapier Slau. > Leg. Shortsword Slau. > Mag. Shortsword Slau. ≈ Leg. Axe Slau. > Leg. Rapier non-Slau.

The order is not universal. with worse Armors and/or higher difficulty, Rapier becomes more powerful, for a PFUDOR run with junk (Exq./Sup.) Plate armors, I've heard that even Superior Rapier would outperform Legendary Shortsword/Axe. And with end-the-game Power armors, Legendary Shortsword can perform as well as Legendary Rapier.

I see. Thank you very much for your patience.

you're correct
and it is untradeable, so it's just a fancy stuff you held only to be used occasionally for a disappointment.

Damn, you are correct bro. I spent around 10m credit buying 19900 tickets and then used the golden lottery ticket to reach the maximum 20k tickets yesterday for the peerless cloth.

Unfortunately I did not win the cloth because there are more than 280k tickets total, so the math tells me the probability I will win the cloth is less than 15%, so I should not feel disappointed by the math, but I do feel disappointed emotionally as I wasted 10m credits and a golden ticket, though I got 282 chaos token, at least better than nothing.

Learned a lesson, DO NOT EXPECT on GAMBLING.

By the way, another question, which monster type should I choose? I know this question is tricky and has conflict of interest with all the other players lol. But I still hope someone are willing to give me some honest suggestions.

Another question is that I bought a Legendary Ethereal Axe of the Banshee from the equipment shop yesterday. It has 88% ADB and level 305(my level is 226 and the weapon I'm using now is an exquisite rapier of slaughter). I know it isn't the best but could I use it as a transition equipment instead of a rapier?

Rapiers are favored at endgame due to monsters taking multiple hits to die, making the Penetrated Armor equipment proc more likely to activate, and since it can stack up to x3 times, you'll get a much easier time defeating damage sponges like the FSM or Real Life at PFUDOR.

If you are playing at lower difficulties, or even in Hell+, but monsters are still dying in 3~4 hits, then a rapier isn't really required, and you might do better with other 1H weapons that have more damage, as you'll be killing the monsters even faster.

Rather than an axe however, you probably should look for a shortsword, as they enjoy better accuracy and extra parry chace, but like I mentioned above, if monsters have a lot of health, a rapier is really indispensable.

which monster type should I choose? I know this question is tricky and has conflict of interest with all the other players lol. But I still hope someone are willing to give me some honest suggestions.

Unless you plan to power level your monsters to 1500PL+, it honestly doesn't matter, as they won't be appearing in battles often, if at all, and you'll just be getting the automated gift every 72 hours.

You also don't require a high PL monster in order to receive bindings, phazons, actuators and etc, as power level only helps determine the normal material grades(Low, Mid and High cloth, for example), so that's the reason why many players keep an army of low PL monster.

Now, if you have the crystals/credits to get loads of 1500PL+ monsters, then you probably want to have a mix of all, as only a single monster from a specific player can appear per battle iirc, and considering how some rounds are composed of giants/mechanoids, then others are celestials/sprites, then undead/human, then whichever other combination of monster types, you probably will have more chances of one of your minions coming up every round instead of if you just decided on having an army of celestials.

I'm not too sure on this however, as I remember seeing multiple Shadowcats on some rounds in the past, but I really don't pay attention to what I'm fighting anymore on persistent unless I die in deep PFUDORfest, nor do most other endgame players, as dying is a rare occurence, so even having multiple 1500PL+ probably won't yeild more gifts compared to a low PL one.

I've heard for a melee who farm Normal difficulty SG-Arena, DW with Hollowed+Demonic Axe performs well

For 1H-melee, shortsword performs always better because shortsword has parry, which makes more counter-attack.

Wait, you mean two axes? Not a club and an axe or rapier and axe?

I'm not too sure on this however, as I remember seeing multiple Shadowcats on some rounds in the past, but I really don't pay attention to what I'm fighting anymore on persistent unless I die in deep PFUDORfest, nor do most other endgame players, as dying is a rare occurence, so even having multiple 1500PL+ probably won't yeild more gifts compared to a low PL one.

That can happen on isekai, where all trainers are replaced by the 'Isekai' system account, but it's only possible on persistent if they belong to different players.

(Also worth noting that if you do raise high-level monsters, there are multiple philosophies on what makes a monster best - one might raise giants because they're dangerous to mages, but that also contributes to making the game slower & harder for yourself too!)

Wait, you mean two axes? Not a club and an axe or rapier and axe?

Yep, two axes. I myself didn't try this in Normal difficulty, but I thought if the player can one-shot everything, the Stun and Penetrated Armor should be useless, so maximum ADB would be perferred.
I don't know if axe+club/axe+rapier will be better

Unless you plan to power level your monsters to 1500PL+, it honestly doesn't matter, as they won't be appearing in battles often, if at all, and you'll just be getting the automated gift every 72 hours.

You also don't require a high PL monster in order to receive bindings, phazons, actuators and etc, as power level only helps determine the normal material grades(Low, Mid and High cloth, for example), so that's the reason why many players keep an army of low PL monster.

Now, if you have the crystals/credits to get loads of 1500PL+ monsters, then you probably want to have a mix of all, as only a single monster from a specific player can appear per battle iirc, and considering how some rounds are composed of giants/mechanoids, then others are celestials/sprites, then undead/human, then whichever other combination of monster types, you probably will have more chances of one of your minions coming up every round instead of if you just decided on having an army of celestials.

I'm not too sure on this however, as I remember seeing multiple Shadowcats on some rounds in the past, but I really don't pay attention to what I'm fighting anymore on persistent unless I die in deep PFUDORfest, nor do most other endgame players, as dying is a rare occurence, so even having multiple 1500PL+ probably won't yeild more gifts compared to a low PL one.

Thanks, I actually did some research, I caste scan during the battle on some frequently seen monsters such as the shadowcat you mentioned, also the peerless monsters, in memory monsters, I feel like they are mostly giant, dragonike, daimon, element etc.

Anyway, I think at high level, players are more hardcore and rarely die, I don't think an huge investment in feeding monsters is a great idea unless in super long term. Maybe focusing on quantity instead of quality is better in term of the gift return.

In Isekai, how far can 1H go up to the tower, using heavy armors?
I've heard that to be in the top 10, I have to use defensive light armors, but I don't intend to go that far. (I just want stat bonuses.)

It's hard to say as the monsters gain health and damage per floor after pfudor this season (iirc), but last season I got to 50 with power armour with no trouble at all. Rather, when I did floor 40, I did it in power armour (so no shielding plate) and without an actual shield for laughs, and cleared it. I don't think you'll have much problem getting to floor 50 even in this season using heavy, and thats the only requirement to get the +3 pabs (being on floor 51, clearing 50).

If its the temp damage bonus, I think some of the top 10 were using heavy, but the one who got the furthest was in light I'm pretty sure.

If its the temp damage bonus, I think some of the top 10 were using heavy, but the one who got the furthest was in light I'm pretty sure.

Ohh, I now know 0.1% damage bonus per floor...

Ohh, I now know 0.1% damage bonus per floor...

yes, but not permanent. Just for half a year.

Also: in previous season you could reach floor 100 and higher with 1h heavy. This year, we don't know how the new tower works out. And, stamina runs out faster. I doubt anyone can reach floor100 this time. My guess is that for floor 50, 1h heavy is easy. I'm trying to get there with DW, just to try out a new style.

In Isekai, how far can 1H go up to the tower, using heavy armors?
I've heard that to be in the top 10, I have to use defensive light armors, but I don't intend to go that far. (I just want stat bonuses.)

Several in the top 10 were using heavy armors (some a mix of shielding plate & power slaughter, some just regular power sets) and others came very close. I managed floor 90 as dual wield, even. Last season it was possible to go much further in tower than we really did - because of time constraints.

This season the tower is a little different, it is easier because rounds are capped at 100 (it has the 2% per round damage bonus from item world). If you only want the 3 PABs at floor 50, that will be fairly easy with just a normal power set - maybe even with all magnificent.

After reading the tutorial, I still have some questions about transferring to mage from 1H.

1. I will probably begin with element mage, depends on the equip I can collect. I am at level 392 so let's say start to play mage at 400. Based on the tutorial, I need 0.79 prof factor to be an element mage, so the prof must be around 1.79*400=716. My current element prof is 401, so need 315 ele prof more from the equips. Assuming I will look for a willow staff (need deprecating prof for better imperil), which will give 70ish ele prof. OK, 245 more to go, so I pick element robe with 110ish prof, then still 135 to go. It seems that I need at least two more element to reach prof goal, then fill the remaining 2 slots with phase. Is it a good idea in general? Should I replace one element with phase so that my final prof is a little below 0.79 prof factor and 3 phase gives more damage? What is a better combination?

2. How to boost the prof for cloth and staff? My element, divine, forbidden prof is not bad as they can be boosted in 1H style, simply caste each once in RE. But how to boost cloth and staff prof? I think at the early stage of being a mage, I probably have to lower the difficulty from x20 to maybe x4 or even x2? But low difficulty level means little exp and little prof, even though I have trained assimilator to 14/25.

3. I know mage farms arena much faster than 1H in term of turns, but how about in term of real world time? I mean, for 1H, simply hover the mouse, sometimes refill the droughts, caste heartseeker, regen etc, pretty simple, the number of turns may be high, but the real world time is not that bad. However, for mage, does it require lots of keyboard "actions"? For example, caste Imperil first, then caste A then caste B finally caste damage and kill, sometimes take the restore and scroll. Those keyboard action takes lots of time. If that was the case, how much faster does mage farm arena than 1H in terms of real world time? Because for me, the real world time is much much more important than the number of turns. I don't have much time to play this game so I need to make sure being a mage saves my real world time not the number of turns.

Thanks,

After reading the tutorial, I still have some questions about transferring to mage from 1H.

1. I will probably begin with element mage, depends on the equip I can collect. I am at level 392 so let's say start to play mage at 400. Based on the tutorial, I need 0.79 prof factor to be an element mage, so the prof must be around 1.79*400=716. My current element prof is 401, so need 315 ele prof more from the equips. Assuming I will look for a willow staff (need deprecating prof for better imperil), which will give 70ish ele prof. OK, 245 more to go, so I pick element robe with 110ish prof, then still 135 to go. It seems that I need at least two more element to reach prof goal, then fill the remaining 2 slots with phase. Is it a good idea in general? Should I replace one element with phase so that my final prof is a little below 0.79 prof factor and 3 phase gives more damage? What is a better combination?

You should achieve that by forging - trying to play mage unforged will make your experience miserable. (It's a glass cannon style - so if you cheap out and replace the cannon with a nerf gun...)

2. How to boost the prof for cloth and staff? My element, divine, forbidden prof is not bad as they can be boosted in 1H style, simply caste each once in RE. But how to boost cloth and staff prof? I think at the early stage of being a mage, I probably have to lower the difficulty from x20 to maybe x4 or even x2? But low difficulty level means little exp and little prof, even though I have trained assimilator to 14/25.

It's not that bad, the prof you get from dawns should be more than enough to get you started, and then beyond that - if PFUDOR is too hard, try IWBTH.

3. I know mage farms arena much faster than 1H in term of turns, but how about in term of real world time? I mean, for 1H, simply hover the mouse, sometimes refill the droughts, caste heartseeker, regen etc, pretty simple, the number of turns may be high, but the real world time is not that bad. However, for mage, does it require lots of keyboard "actions"? For example, caste Imperil first, then caste A then caste B finally caste damage and kill, sometimes take the restore and scroll. Those keyboard action takes lots of time. If that was the case, how much faster does mage farm arena than 1H in terms of real world time? Because for me, the real world time is much much more important than the number of turns. I don't have much time to play this game so I need to make sure being a mage saves my real world time not the number of turns.

Yeah, it's still way faster in real time. Yes, it requires more keyboard actions, but not that bad - it's basically press 1, 2, 3, recast if any imperils missed, then start hovering.

How much faster? Depends on your investment. I can do every battle in the arena in under 45 minutes.

After reading the tutorial, I still have some questions about transferring to mage from 1H.

1. I will probably begin with element mage, depends on the equip I can collect. I am at level 392 so let's say start to play mage at 400. Based on the tutorial, I need 0.79 prof factor to be an element mage, so the prof must be around 1.79*400=716. My current element prof is 401, so need 315 ele prof more from the equips. Assuming I will look for a willow staff (need deprecating prof for better imperil), which will give 70ish ele prof. OK, 245 more to go, so I pick element robe with 110ish prof, then still 135 to go. It seems that I need at least two more element to reach prof goal, then fill the remaining 2 slots with phase. Is it a good idea in general? Should I replace one element with phase so that my final prof is a little below 0.79 prof factor and 3 phase gives more damage? What is a better combination?

you upgrade your staff proficiency and that 2 cloth to reach your target proficiency, this is the bare minimum upgrade for mage.

2. How to boost the prof for cloth and staff? My element, divine, forbidden prof is not bad as they can be boosted in 1H style, simply caste each once in RE. But how to boost cloth and staff prof? I think at the early stage of being a mage, I probably have to lower the difficulty from x20 to maybe x4 or even x2? But low difficulty level means little exp and little prof, even though I have trained assimilator to 14/25.

you'll be amazed how fast low proficiency increase, imagine increasing your level from lvl 300 to 350 using your lvl 400 exp revenue (lvl 400 to 401 need 7.5billion exp, by the time you reach lvl 350 you just barely collect about 30billion exp), don't think it too hard, it will catch up sooner than you thought.

3. I know mage farms arena much faster than 1H in term of turns, but how about in term of real world time? I mean, for 1H, simply hover the mouse, sometimes refill the droughts, caste heartseeker, regen etc, pretty simple, the number of turns may be high, but the real world time is not that bad. However, for mage, does it require lots of keyboard "actions"? For example, caste Imperil first, then caste A then caste B finally caste damage and kill, sometimes take the restore and scroll. Those keyboard action takes lots of time. If that was the case, how much faster does mage farm arena than 1H in terms of real world time? Because for me, the real world time is much much more important than the number of turns. I don't have much time to play this game so I need to make sure being a mage saves my real world time not the number of turns.
Thanks,

bind 123 to casting imperil to the 2nd, 5th, and 8th monsters (or 8-5-2 your choice) that should cover everything, then use hover with strongest spell setting for T3-2-1 spell
I bind 4 to the T3 spell as that usually enough to clear most monster to start the round, then hover strongest T2-1 to clear the rest.
cure and buff is the same as 1h, only change heartseeker with arcane focus, and don't have to bother with spirit stance.
also, you shouldn't need scrolls for arena.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jul 9 2021, 12:17