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Jun 27 2021, 22:34
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 27 2021, 21:33)  What are the best infusions for melee in different situations? I get that holy and dark are best against school girls, but when I use dark on Arctic weapon, normal monsters usually take less dark damage than cold. What should I use in no-schoolgirl battles? And what should I use in mixed battles like DwD?
Any elemental infusion is fine for non-SG battles (if you're using imperil). Dark & holy are preferred for the schoolgirl arenas like DWD. The difference is pretty small either way. This post has been edited by Nezu: Jun 27 2021, 22:34
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Jun 27 2021, 23:10
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Jun 27 2021, 11:58)  You need to edit script:  So, I had edited the script, just adding those two lines, and it didn't work. And now I copied it exactly as it is in this image, and it didn't work either. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jun 27 2021, 23:43
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
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It works for me - show percent ranges, but generate forum link make broken link, without /isekai
This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Jun 27 2021, 23:44
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Jun 28 2021, 00:09
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matirion
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jun 27 2021, 20:56)  They won't appear in battle or give gifts like that (even the 3 day pity gifts)
Ah, alright. The wiki states that they are immune to that above PL 1000, in the bit about starving. Should the wiki be altered? The way it is now is: - After 90 days of starving a monster will cease to participate in battles and will be un-named.
- Monsters that are 1,000+ PL are immune to this
That's what made me think it might not be needed, because it implied they would still be in battles and thus give gifts.
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Jun 28 2021, 00:15
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Shank
Group: Global Mods
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Nah that's my mistake (skim read and didn't note the level), they should just not give you gifts but will appear in battle (I think)
Specifically rather than hunger I think its based on morale (outside of hungry monsters deactivating if low enough pl), and morale just drains quicker when hungry until its too low to give a gift, but might want a second opinion on that
Edit: now that I'm actually using my brain and thinking about it, yes no morale deactivates gifts (I don't know if it actually needs to be 0 or just red of hand, but eventually gifts do stop)
This post has been edited by Shank: Jun 28 2021, 00:43
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Jun 28 2021, 05:52
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little_wuke
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Roughly how much does it cost to get max forge level? After upgrading most cost-efficient attributes (parry, block, etc) I only got to lvl10. According to the chart I have about 300k EXP to go, that's at least 1200 upgrades. Should I spam upgrade on everything I have to like lvl25, or focus on what I will need in the long run and upgrade them as high as possible? Can you give a rough number on how much it will cost? Thanks. This post has been edited by little_wuke: Jun 28 2021, 06:00
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Jun 28 2021, 06:25
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-May 19

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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 28 2021, 05:52)  Roughly how much does it cost to get max forge level? After upgrading most cost-efficient attributes (parry, block, etc) I only got to lvl10. According to the chart I have about 300k EXP to go, that's at least 1200 upgrades. Should I spam upgrade on everything I have to like lvl25, or focus on what I will need in the long run and upgrade them as high as possible? Can you give a rough number on how much it will cost? Thanks. you might be interested in HVUtilSome attributes are useless/nearly useless (eg: CrushMit for Cloth, MAcc for Staff), you can just ignore them.
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Jun 28 2021, 14:50
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hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 8-December 08

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Does anyone have data regarding chaos tokens drops in RoB? I did found about sssss2's data of Real Life+ challenges, but is there anyone with data related to the SG challenges?
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Jun 28 2021, 16:21
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davidtsu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 956
Joined: 1-April 17

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Four questions that confused me a lot after searching for answers on my own on the wiki page:
1. What is shade fragment(also other similar things for power, phase, and force shield) used for? It say used to reforge shade light equips. But as far as I know, reforge requires amnesia shard only, as I tried to reforge a shade equips and the page said I need 5 amnesia shard, it does not say something like "it costs 1 shade fragment". So it actually costs shade fragment but just not mentioned in reforge page?
2. I was playing this game in USA so the fighting speed is not too bad. Now moved to Asia, sometimes, especially at night, the fighting speed is very slow, like from 1 second 2-3 hits down to 1 second 1 hits or even less, which significantly slow down my farming speed. I did tried VPN but most of the time it actually makes it worse. Any ideas to fix this net speed/latency issue?
3. I am clearly still a newbie with 1H style and only 300+ level, so for the 4 battlefields, I only spent 24 stamina on arena farming daily, and of course do ring of blood when I collected 5 token of blood. Recently I started to IW my weapon and first time fight in IW. But how about Grindfest? I checked the wiki, the Grindfest has credits penalty (25% only), no EXP bonus compared with arena, no potency EXP compared with IW, monsters getting stronger as rounds goes up, the only bonus is crystal, and end of 1000 round with 5k credits. I know this question sounds stupid as I have heard that many high level top tier player will do Grindfest a lot. Anyone tell me why people play Grindfest? Is there any hidden bonus or something beneficial in Grindfest?
4. If I use amnesia shard to reforge an equip, all IW potency will be reset, but how about the forged stats? for example will the forged ADB also be cleared after using amnesia shard to reforge?
Thanks a lot.
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Jun 28 2021, 16:53
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jantch
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 3,716
Joined: 13-May 12

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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 28 2021, 10:21)  Four questions that confused me a lot after searching for answers on my own on the wiki page:
1. What is shade fragment(also other similar things for power, phase, and force shield) used for? It say used to reforge shade light equips. But as far as I know, reforge requires amnesia shard only, as I tried to reforge a shade equips and the page said I need 5 amnesia shard, it does not say something like "it costs 1 shade fragment". So it actually costs shade fragment but just not mentioned in reforge page?
2. I was playing this game in USA so the fighting speed is not too bad. Now moved to Asia, sometimes, especially at night, the fighting speed is very slow, like from 1 second 2-3 hits down to 1 second 1 hits or even less, which significantly slow down my farming speed. I did tried VPN but most of the time it actually makes it worse. Any ideas to fix this net speed/latency issue?
3. I am clearly still a newbie with 1H style and only 300+ level, so for the 4 battlefields, I only spent 24 stamina on arena farming daily, and of course do ring of blood when I collected 5 token of blood. Recently I started to IW my weapon and first time fight in IW. But how about Grindfest? I checked the wiki, the Grindfest has credits penalty (25% only), no EXP bonus compared with arena, no potency EXP compared with IW, monsters getting stronger as rounds goes up, the only bonus is crystal, and end of 1000 round with 5k credits. I know this question sounds stupid as I have heard that many high level top tier player will do Grindfest a lot. Anyone tell me why people play Grindfest? Is there any hidden bonus or something beneficial in Grindfest?
4. If I use amnesia shard to reforge an equip, all IW potency will be reset, but how about the forged stats? for example will the forged ADB also be cleared after using amnesia shard to reforge?
Thanks a lot.
1. Shade fragments, repurposed actuators, and crystallized phazons are for forging the equipment, not for reforging. If you go to Forge->Upgrade, and try to upgrade a stat on shade/power/phase equipment, you'll see that you need them to forge/upgrade a stat on the equipment. 2. Have you tried the [ alt.hentaiverse.org] alt site? My turns per second is terrible (1.2 to 1.8 in normal play, around 2.6 to 2.8 when I just imperil and hover on Flying Spaghetti Monster) so I can't help much here. 3. If you have the Hath Perk Crystarium V, it can be worth it for the crystals. 4. The forged stats are not reset.
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Jun 28 2021, 17:24
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Mud attheBaseofLotus
Group: Members
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Joined: 25-February 15

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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 28 2021, 03:52)  Roughly how much does it cost to get max forge level? After upgrading most cost-efficient attributes (parry, block, etc) I only got to lvl10. According to the chart I have about 300k EXP to go, that's at least 1200 upgrades. Should I spam upgrade on everything I have to like lvl25, or focus on what I will need in the long run and upgrade them as high as possible? Can you give a rough number on how much it will cost? Thanks.  Here is buylist for upgrading set of power armor to about this level: Legendary Onyx Power Boots of Protection(whole set upgraded to ^this level) Yes there was also shield with block to +20. Actually it was even more expensive since about 20% of materials and bindings i already had. Not sure if it was a good idea upgrade to this point, but i did. To mpush really far with upgrades you need very good equipment, and the further the more expensive catalists, its just stupidly expensive, at some point it would be cheaper to buy +10%dmg hath perk. This post has been edited by Mud attheBaseofLotus: Jun 28 2021, 17:28
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Jun 28 2021, 23:07
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little_wuke
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What's the main source of income of credits in this game? At the moment I only clear the top 5-6 arenas to keep stamina above 80, Maybe I'm a bit unlucky that on my way to lv350 I never get any valuable equipment worth trading, if I sell everything I don't currently need it's 300k - 400k per day. It's becoming harder to catch up with the increasing costs on training, equipments and hath perks as I level up, Am I missing anything?
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Jun 28 2021, 23:53
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Fudo Masamune
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,636
Joined: 2-February 10

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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 29 2021, 06:07)  What's the main source of income of credits in this game? At the moment I only clear the top 5-6 arenas to keep stamina above 80, Maybe I'm a bit unlucky that on my way to lv350 I never get any valuable equipment worth trading, if I sell everything I don't currently need it's 300k - 400k per day. It's becoming harder to catch up with the increasing costs on training, equipments and hath perks as I level up, Am I missing anything?
other than "external sources" like selling stars, stars reward, h@h, and bounty? 300-400k/day from keeping stamina above 80 is about right, maybe a bit higher than average. and not getting "enough good drop" is a given if you play while keeping stamina above 80, those who got tons of drops are spending energy drink to keep their energy from exhausted, that means their daily energy consumption are beyond daily regeneration. basically they play a lot more than you. well, that's not counting one occasional lucky bastard who got legendary radiant heimdall from RE or something and getting rich overnight. But most people don't get a "good drop" even until mid 400, it's normal. This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Jun 28 2021, 23:54
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Jun 29 2021, 05:12
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davidtsu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 956
Joined: 1-April 17

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QUOTE(jantch @ Jun 28 2021, 06:53)  1. Shade fragments, repurposed actuators, and crystallized phazons are for forging the equipment, not for reforging. If you go to Forge->Upgrade, and try to upgrade a stat on shade/power/phase equipment, you'll see that you need them to forge/upgrade a stat on the equipment. 2. Have you tried the [ alt.hentaiverse.org] alt site? My turns per second is terrible (1.2 to 1.8 in normal play, around 2.6 to 2.8 when I just imperil and hover on Flying Spaghetti Monster) so I can't help much here. 3. If you have the Hath Perk Crystarium V, it can be worth it for the crystals. 4. The forged stats are not reset. 1. I see, then the official description of those items are wrong, because it says for "reforge" instead of "upgrade" 2. I tried alt, even slower. 3. I have heard from somewhere that at Grindfest with monsters getting stronger and stronger in later round, the drop rate for artifacts and high quality equips are increased, not sure whether it is true or not. QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 28 2021, 13:07)  What's the main source of income of credits in this game? At the moment I only clear the top 5-6 arenas to keep stamina above 80, Maybe I'm a bit unlucky that on my way to lv350 I never get any valuable equipment worth trading, if I sell everything I don't currently need it's 300k - 400k per day. It's becoming harder to catch up with the increasing costs on training, equipments and hath perks as I level up, Am I missing anything?
How do you make 300-400k per day? I did the same thing, daily 20-24 stamina usage, farming the last 4 arena , which contains 400 SGs and gives 40 trophies, plus the last stage of these 4 arenas give around 11 trophies, total of roughly 200-220k, then counting the credits drop and other items, I think 300k is OK, but 400k is a little bit difficult to reach. Can you share some ideas?
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Jun 29 2021, 05:38
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,373
Joined: 20-May 19

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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 29 2021, 05:12)  How do you make 300-400k per day? I did the same thing, daily 20-24 stamina usage, farming the last 4 arena , which contains 400 SGs and gives 40 trophies, plus the last stage of these 4 arenas give around 11 trophies, total of roughly 200-220k, then counting the credits drop and other items, I think 300k is OK, but 400k is a little bit difficult to reach. Can you share some ideas?
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 400k if you get and sell an Energy Drink
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Jun 29 2021, 06:39
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little_wuke
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 29 2021, 05:12)  How do you make 300-400k per day? I did the same thing, daily 20-24 stamina usage, farming the last 4 arena , which contains 400 SGs and gives 40 trophies, plus the last stage of these 4 arenas give around 11 trophies, total of roughly 200-220k, then counting the credits drop and other items, I think 300k is OK, but 400k is a little bit difficult to reach. Can you share some ideas?
I do 5-6 instead of 4, although there's almost no additional trophy that still gives chance for artifacts and tokens of blood. I get 3-4 tokens of blood per day on average so the trophies from Flying Spaghetti Monster is 40-50k per day. If one day I'm lucky with artifacts and tokens 400k is not impossible.
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Jun 29 2021, 07:33
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 29 2021, 04:07)  What's the main source of income of credits in this game? At the moment I only clear the top 5-6 arenas to keep stamina above 80, Maybe I'm a bit unlucky that on my way to lv350 I never get any valuable equipment worth trading, if I sell everything I don't currently need it's 300k - 400k per day. It's becoming harder to catch up with the increasing costs on training, equipments and hath perks as I level up, Am I missing anything?
Well, IIRC TenB designed HV as a credit sink in the first place, rather than as a credit generator... So it working as intended??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 29 2021, 07:59
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davidtsu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(little_wuke @ Jun 28 2021, 20:39)  I do 5-6 instead of 4, although there's almost no additional trophy that still gives chance for artifacts and tokens of blood. I get 3-4 tokens of blood per day on average so the trophies from Flying Spaghetti Monster is 40-50k per day. If one day I'm lucky with artifacts and tokens 400k is not impossible.
I got 1-2 token of blood on average per day (I only trained archeologist to level 5, training to 6 right now, so maybe you trained more or just more lucky than me lol). If you do 5-6 arena instead of 4, you probably use more than 24 stamina per day because the last 4 have 100+110+125+150=485 fights, whichs is almost 20 stamina if you keep your stamina above 80, you only have less than 4 stamina per day to use on other arena stages. QUOTE(sharmy @ Jun 28 2021, 19:38)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 400k if you get and sell an Energy Drink I feel like I am not lucky on precursor artifact gambling. The probability of getting energy drink is definitely less than 20%, even if I did not count the primary stats boost. Most of the time when I offer 10 precursor artifacts, the average will be like 2-3 primary stats, 0-1 energy drink, LOTS of crystals and LOTS of Last Exlirs. But to boost the primary stats, I am still buying precursor artifact from HVmarket, but seems to be too expensive investment. This post has been edited by davidtsu: Jun 29 2021, 08:03
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Jun 29 2021, 08:53
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little_wuke
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 29 2021, 07:59)  I got 1-2 token of blood on average per day (I only trained archeologist to level 5, training to 6 right now, so maybe you trained more or just more lucky than me lol). If you do 5-6 arena instead of 4, you probably use more than 24 stamina per day because the last 4 have 100+110+125+150=485 fights, whichs is almost 20 stamina if you keep your stamina above 80, you only have less than 4 stamina per day to use on other arena stages.
I checked my HVMarket record and must correct what I said. In the last 2 weeks I sold 8 Noodly Appendages, so that's a little less than 3 tokens per day. Still, after adding the 3 schoolgirls it worths about 35k per day. 1-2 tokens on average might be a little unlucky. I read somewhere that 80-round arena gives best EXP-stamina rate except for DwD so it gets a high priority, adding it makes 565 rounds = 22.6 stamina, you can still squeeze in the 90-round one every 3 days.
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