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Jun 22 2021, 23:06
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GREGRE
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jun 22 2021, 14:31)  Not "better" per se, but more defensive. At low levels and with mostly Exq gears and little to no forging, Block just isn't high enough to reliably negate most of the damage. Throwing in Evade and much better Resist, Light Armor offers a very useful mix of damage avoidance early on. At your lvl should, arenas should be a walk in the park as a 1H Heavy player. Adjust your equipment as follows: - Get a Force Shield with ~37 base Block, the more the better. Forge Block at least to lvl 10-15, more if you can afford it
- Replace your weapon with a Slaughter Rapier for more damage. Get IW10 for Void damage + Strike
- Replace all Plate Armors with Power equipment. You'll get much more ADB, and killing faster means less damage taken
I do have https://hentaiverse.org/equip/272394110/9ebbef957c, which seems like it'll work. All of my other force shields aren't as good for Block. Funnily enough, I see that my current shield actually has more block. I'm guessing there's another reason why I should prefer the force shield over my current shield? I haven't been really lucky with rapiers. The best slaughter one I found is https://hentaiverse.org/equip/271827326/8190226ee7. I've been using the legendary since I saw that it was a lot better in a bunch of other stats, but maybe those don't matter. I do have some miscellaneous exquisite powers, though their physical/magical mitigations aren't as good as what I'm currently using. I'll give them a shot! QUOTE(drgoku @ Jun 22 2021, 14:36)  I'd assume dying means spark of life activating once in a while, which could be normal at your level as long you are not being defeated. Otherwise how are your PAs? You might want more END and a bit more DEX.
For upgrades in equipment you need:
- Rapier needs IW10 to deal more damage and change it to void, which monsters can't resist, go to a IW service or try it yourself in Nintendo/IWBTH difficulty if you have another weapon, simple IW10 is fine as your rapier is not a endgame one. - You might want to change your shield for a Force Shield with the highest block you can get, prefixes and suffixes don't matter and PAB are not that important (STR. DEX and END are preferred). - A bit of forging might also help in general, level 5 in things like rapier ADB and Parry, and shield block are useful.
My PAs are in the attached image:  I'll give IWing my rapier/forging my shield a shot. I actually haven't ever done any forging or IW up until now. Thanks! This post has been edited by GREGRE: Jun 22 2021, 23:09
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Jun 22 2021, 23:19
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Rhydin
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QUOTE(GREGRE @ Jun 22 2021, 23:06)  Be careful, I was talking about base Block, which is only 32 for the shield you linked. Hover over the Block to see the actual base value. Force Shield is preferred simply because it offers the highest possible Block, with maximum Base Block going as high as ~38.2 or so. Add some forging, and at lvl 350 you should end up with an effective Block value >55%, maybe 60%. Also, buying from bazaar is generally not the best aproach. Most of the useful equipments are sold in Player Shops and Auctions.
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Jun 22 2021, 23:46
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GREGRE
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-November 10

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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jun 22 2021, 15:19)  Be careful, I was talking about base Block, which is only 32 for the shield you linked. Hover over the Block to see the actual base value. Force Shield is preferred simply because it offers the highest possible Block, with maximum Base Block going as high as ~38.2 or so. Add some forging, and at lvl 350 you should end up with an effective Block value >55%, maybe 60%. Also, buying from bazaar is generally not the best aproach. Most of the useful equipments are sold in Player Shops and Auctions. I see, thanks! I looked over all my shields and the one with the highest base block is the legendary I'm currently using. I'll check to see if there are any decent shields I can find on the cheap.
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Jun 23 2021, 08:05
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sssss2
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In Isekai, which is better, salvaging equipment into materials or selling them to Bazaar?
I barely played this server last season, so I don't know the market situation.
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Jun 23 2021, 08:09
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Noni
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jun 23 2021, 08:05)  In Isekai, which is better, salvaging equipment into materials or selling them to Bazaar?
I barely played this server last season, so I don't know the market situation.
That depends on the week: in the first week, nobody has any legendaries to forge. Then in the second week, they all need High Grades and Mid Grades. Prices for metal go well beyond HGC in persistent. And at the end, the prices fall again. Also, in the first weeks, nobody needs cloth. Half way in the season, there are people with a mage set for SG farming, and cloth gets value. Most valuabe: 1. metal 2. wood 3. cloth & leather
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Jun 23 2021, 08:25
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lololo16
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jun 23 2021, 03:05)  In Isekai, which is better, salvaging equipment into materials or selling them to Bazaar?
I barely played this server last season, so I don't know the market situation.
salvage exquisites and above, there's always market for those mats. Last season people ended up spending millions just to forge a bit their stuff
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Jun 23 2021, 08:29
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sssss2
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 23 2021, 15:09)  That depends on the week: in the first week, nobody has any legendaries to forge. Then in the second week, they all need High Grades and Mid Grades. Prices for metal go well beyond HGC in persistent. And at the end, the prices fall again. Also, in the first weeks, nobody needs cloth. Half way in the season, there are people with a mage set for SG farming, and cloth gets value.
Most valuabe: 1. metal 2. wood 3. cloth & leather
Thank you, Exq and Mag seem better to salvage into Mid/High grade materials. How about Superior and below? Especially leather. Low grade materials are needed to forge Mag or lower equipment, but I don't know if there will be a lot of demand for them. I have lots of Superior and I salvage 1h/2h/heavy armors to get LGM, but I'll get more and more.
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Jun 23 2021, 08:31
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jun 23 2021, 08:29)  Thank you, Exq and Mag seem better to salvage into Mid/High grade materials.
How about Superior and below? Especially leather. Low grade materials are needed to forge Mag or lower equipment, but I don't know if there will be a lot of demand for them. I have lots of Superior and I salvage 1h/2h/heavy armors to get LGM, but I'll get more and more.
Low-grade is valuable at the beginning of the season and will become zero-value when vast majority get legendary gears (about 1-2 months later)
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Jun 23 2021, 08:40
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lololo16
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ Jun 23 2021, 03:29)  How about Superior and below? Especially leather.
no one will buy low grade leather,
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Jun 23 2021, 08:51
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Nyachin
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Hi, Just start to IW my equips [ alt.hentaiverse.org] glovei've read some tutorial and i know juggernaut is the 1st choice of cloth potency but what's the correct strategy to reforge? should i regorge right now, before it cost too many shards, or continue and see what's the other potency? and, for the staff, IW 10 is useless, right? This post has been edited by Nyachin: Jun 23 2021, 08:56
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Jun 23 2021, 08:56
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sharmy
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QUOTE(Nyachin @ Jun 23 2021, 08:51)  Hi, Just start to IW my equips [ alt.hentaiverse.org] glovei've read some tutorial and i know juggernaut is the 1st choice of cloth potency but what's the correct strategy to reforge? should i regorge right now, before it cost too many shards, or continue and see what's the other potency? Yes reforge now If you don't get juggernaut at tie1, reforge. (btw: this gear seems not very ideal, if you have a plan to get a better one, just leave it as is. juggernaut lv.5 is not a must for Arena farming)
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Jun 23 2021, 09:54
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matirion
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I noticed there are weapons and armor pieces with proficiency bonuses and with damage bonuses. Which is better? Do you need a certain balance between proficiency bonus gear and +damage gear?
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Jun 23 2021, 10:11
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(matirion @ Jun 23 2021, 09:54)  I noticed there are weapons and armor pieces with proficiency bonuses and with damage bonuses. Which is better? Do you need a certain balance between proficiency bonus gear and +damage gear?
check this thread QUOTE(Nezu @ Feb 28 2021, 21:51)  Prof slots
A key factor in selecting your 'prof slot' is being realistic about how much you play, and your future prospects for proficiency gain; there is no point in trying to play with the typical shoes of the elementalist if you are not likely to ever reach ~580 base proficiency (assuming peerless shoes and peerless staff), for example. Do not underestimate the proficiency grind. Reaching 580 proficiency is roughly equivalent to levelling 1-500 10 times.
For the vast majority of elemental players, the most realistic choices are cap or gloves long-term. Beginners should generally choose a robe or pants as their first slot (especially if they use willow rather than redwood, which has slightly higher base proficiency), to reach their proficiency goal sooner, as it will still take some grinding even with full forging. My general advice is not to think too hard about futureproofing - by the time you have grinded enough proficiency for a 'more efficient' slot to work for you, the expense of switching gear slots and forging them anew will not be as problematic for you.
Holy/dark players will usually play with gloves+shoes (with their respective proficiency suffixes) for a very, very, very long time. If you only do arenas, consider cap instead of shoes. Theoretically, a holy/dark mage can reach slightly better efficiency using robe as their sole proficiency slot, but only if they have a peerless staff, peerless robe, and their base proficiency exceeds 590. (As you can imagine this is not realistically attainable for almost all players.)
After selecting your proficiency slot(s), fill the rest of your slots with phase equipment with a suffix matching your chosen element.
This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 23 2021, 10:12
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Jun 23 2021, 10:47
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Nyachin
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Jun 23 2021, 08:56)  Yes reforge now
If you don't get juggernaut at tie1, reforge.
(btw: this gear seems not very ideal, if you have a plan to get a better one, just leave it as is. juggernaut lv.5 is not a must for Arena farming)
Yeah, this is, basicly trash Just wanna use a cheap mage set to clear SG arenas faster for my workdays I will just leave it here
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Jun 23 2021, 13:34
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sssss2
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jun 23 2021, 15:40)  no one will buy low grade leather,
Got it, thanks!
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Jun 23 2021, 21:07
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BlueWaterSplash
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I bought tons of low-grade metal, wood, and leather from the bazaar during last spurt because I was too foolish to stock up (or sell my high-grade materials).
After I realized I could salvage superior for low-grades, I stopped buying from bazaar. But I had to stop upgrading when I ran out of mid-grade materials. On the final day there were mid-grade materials in the bazaar but it was not worth it for me to spend the credits on any.
Amusingly, I found that my Magnificent equipment that were lacking a PAB were more useful than normal Legendary/Magnificent, because that pushed them into a whole lower upgrade tier and everything was way cheaper. Lower grade materials and catalysts.
But I didn't really need to upgrade anything and I could probably have cleared 100 floors with no upgrades if I had enough time. Most of my armors had no upgrades, and I didn't upgrade what I could have because I was conserving credits.
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Jun 23 2021, 21:27
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jun 23 2021, 20:07)  But I didn't really need to upgrade anything and I could probably have cleared 100 floors with no upgrades if I had enough time. Most of my armors had no upgrades, and I didn't upgrade what I could have because I was conserving credits.
Well, for context - have you done a full pfest on persistent? Floor 100 was a little bit harder than that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As in - floor 100 had something like 450 rounds? With the 2% damage per round IW modifier, unlike fest's 0.4%. Tower starts at 100% damage, unlike fest which starts at 50%. Plus it was at PFUDOR +12? which is another 60% damage, although I don't know if that was multiplicative or additive with the round bonus - assuming the more likely multiplicative, that means the end of floor 100 was at 1,440% damage, compared to the 1,000th round of fest being 450%. Oh, and the monsters were level 1,000. So it took a while to kill them. And they hurt a lot more than normal. I don't know how far you got in the old Tower exactly but I can tell you the high floors weren't a total pushover - yes, probably you could've gotten around there with low upgrades and some attention paid to your gear - but no upgrades at all, I somewhat doubt. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Nezu: Jun 23 2021, 21:29
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Jun 23 2021, 21:36
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Jake643
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Jun 22 2021, 16:31)  Not "better" per se, but more defensive. At low levels and with mostly Exq gears and little to no forging, Block just isn't high enough to reliably negate most of the damage. Throwing in Evade and much better Resist, Light Armor offers a very useful mix of damage avoidance early on.
So the lighter armor is actually more defensive as avoid+resist > extra mitigation? Then is the only advantage of heavy being more counter attacks due to less evade?
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Jun 23 2021, 21:55
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Jake643 @ Jun 23 2021, 20:36)  So the lighter armor is actually more defensive as avoid+resist > extra mitigation? Then is the only advantage of heavy being more counter attacks due to less evade?
The advantage of heavy is that power has way more ADB than light - light is what you go to for extreme survival, heavy is what you go to for higher damage (although only 1H can normally survive doing that, because of block from shield, & counter-attack stuns).
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