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post Jun 15 2021, 21:58
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People used to rent virtual server and run there H@H, it generate Hath.
not sure if its still profitable...
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post Jun 16 2021, 02:25
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 15 2021, 21:30) *

but you'd be spending a couple of years on Hentaiverse at least.

half a year should be enough if he/she can consume all 24 stamina everyday
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post Jun 16 2021, 06:42
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jun 15 2021, 11:30) *

Not all bitcoin trading companies are that bad. try a European company, Sweden has excellent privacy laws for instance. But the donation page on the forum has many very good tips.
Or, you can buy a gold star with credits. But you'd need to collect 85 million credits first. Not impossible, but you'd be spending a couple of years on Hentaiverse at least.


Right, I tried a few apps and website listed on the donation page, they either don't allow me do that or ask ID. So if I bought it from localbitcoins.com and all I need to do is to provide my hentaiverse e-wallet binary code right?
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:28
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 16 2021, 06:42) *

Right, I tried a few apps and website listed on the donation page, they either don't allow me do that or ask ID. So if I bought it from localbitcoins.com and all I need to do is to provide my hentaiverse e-wallet binary code right?

right
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post Jun 16 2021, 08:02
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 15 2021, 18:04) *

I am seriously considering getting a Goldstar, but the process is too complicated. I have read the donation page and here is my concern. I don't trust most of the ways mentioned in the donation page, because all of them requires ID verification and I don't want to expose my personal ID. Is there any other ways to get a Goldstar?

Here's a suggestion. If you have a friend that already deals with bitcoin, it's easy. That's what I did since I don't wanna supply my personal data either (yes I do see helicopters flying overhead everywhere and I use a tinfoil hat to avoid government mind control, but ahem, I digress). All you need to do is supply your friend with the BTC address automatically generated on the e-hentai donation page so he can transfer the funds to your account and then you pay him for the same amount in "real" money (or stiff him, up to you).

On a purely personal note, since this is just my opinion and especially the hardcore veterans probably won't agree with me. This game is just not worth playing without 2 things: a gold star and a high quality H@H client. This is mainly because grinding is tedious as hell, and you need to grind DOZENS OF TIMES more than a casual player to even reach the bottom tier of mildly-rich players.

A gold star might not look like much in terms of passive income (and it really isn't) but the real benefit comes from having double the monster lab slots. Take my example, I spent 4 million credits on crystals (which I could have used for forging or training or whatever, instead) just to get 50~ monsters to level 500+ and have since then received 11 Crystallized Phazons. That alone is already a return of 11x300k = 3.3 million credits on my investment. Add up all the shade fragments, bindings of slaughter, destruction, fox, owl, HGC, etc, and you start seeing how this is a good long term plan (especially since this is all passively generated). This means you have to grind mid-level arenas ideally everyday to obtain chaos tokens, though, but that's not so bad compared to endless hours of grinding and energy drinks.

As for the H@H client I don't really know how long it takes before it starts generating relevant amounts of income because my internet connection is slow right now, which means the "permanent" stat that determines the amount of hath/time is growing very slowly. Again, it's passive, so you can just leave it on and "one day" it will have grown enough to be more than worth it. Of course you can rent a server like someone suggested but the whole point of all this is to avoid wasting money in the game, while not commiting suicide with endless grinding either.

At the end of the day, everyone will have their own ideas and approaches to the game. I for one, never used a single energy drink nor do I intend to (24 stamina is already more than I can tolerate). However, sometimes I watch the sales log for energy drinks on the hvmarket and I'm amazed at the amounts some players buy. This leads me to believe that there are people out there that are just capable of getting rich in this game without any of the passive means I was talking about.
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post Jun 16 2021, 12:22
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QUOTE(eYe BuRn @ Jun 16 2021, 07:02) *

This leads me to believe that there are people out there that are just capable of getting rich in this game without any of the passive means I was talking about.


A few very old players could still have in their HV walet, say, half of a bitcoin from the times when that was a 2 or 3 dollars leftover.

Since you cannot transfer them back from the HV wallet, they now seat on 20k dollars they can only use getting stars (I suspect some of the catgirls here just did that) or selling GS/renting servers.

Some simply have enough RL income that they don't mind investing a bunch of real money in the game for fun.

The world is a big place, there are a lot of different situations out there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jun 16 2021, 12:38
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QUOTE(eYe BuRn @ Jun 15 2021, 22:02) *

Here's a suggestion. If you have a friend that already deals with bitcoin, it's easy. That's what I did since I don't wanna supply my personal data either (yes I do see helicopters flying overhead everywhere and I use a tinfoil hat to avoid government mind control, but ahem, I digress). All you need to do is supply your friend with the BTC address automatically generated on the e-hentai donation page so he can transfer the funds to your account and then you pay him for the same amount in "real" money (or stiff him, up to you).

On a purely personal note, since this is just my opinion and especially the hardcore veterans probably won't agree with me. This game is just not worth playing without 2 things: a gold star and a high quality H@H client. This is mainly because grinding is tedious as hell, and you need to grind DOZENS OF TIMES more than a casual player to even reach the bottom tier of mildly-rich players.

A gold star might not look like much in terms of passive income (and it really isn't) but the real benefit comes from having double the monster lab slots. Take my example, I spent 4 million credits on crystals (which I could have used for forging or training or whatever, instead) just to get 50~ monsters to level 500+ and have since then received 11 Crystallized Phazons. That alone is already a return of 11x300k = 3.3 million credits on my investment. Add up all the shade fragments, bindings of slaughter, destruction, fox, owl, HGC, etc, and you start seeing how this is a good long term plan (especially since this is all passively generated). This means you have to grind mid-level arenas ideally everyday to obtain chaos tokens, though, but that's not so bad compared to endless hours of grinding and energy drinks.

As for the H@H client I don't really know how long it takes before it starts generating relevant amounts of income because my internet connection is slow right now, which means the "permanent" stat that determines the amount of hath/time is growing very slowly. Again, it's passive, so you can just leave it on and "one day" it will have grown enough to be more than worth it. Of course you can rent a server like someone suggested but the whole point of all this is to avoid wasting money in the game, while not commiting suicide with endless grinding either.

At the end of the day, everyone will have their own ideas and approaches to the game. I for one, never used a single energy drink nor do I intend to (24 stamina is already more than I can tolerate). However, sometimes I watch the sales log for energy drinks on the hvmarket and I'm amazed at the amounts some players buy. This leads me to believe that there are people out there that are just capable of getting rich in this game without any of the passive means I was talking about.


Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately I don't have friends who have actual cryptos. Some friends, including myself, will invest a little bit on Robinhood where it is not the real cryptos and you cannot transfer it.

Your helicopters example made my day, laugh out loud in my office, very true.

For whether worth the money, I actually started this game just for downloading a manga which I cannot find anywhere else, so I have to play for a while to get some GP and download it. However, later I am more addicted to this game instead of reading those mangas, sounds weird, maybe I am the only weird one. (I found another place with way more choice and can download manga freely and easily, so playing this game not has nothing to do with my original goal, which is to download the manga). Now, I am not rich, but 100 USD is not lots of money considering current world status and I am totally OK spending 100 USD in this game.

Again, thanks for your suggestion, I am still trying to get a Goldstar.
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post Jun 17 2021, 00:04
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QUOTE(eYe BuRn @ Jun 16 2021, 07:02) *

A gold star might not look like much in terms of passive income (and it really isn't) but the real benefit comes from having double the monster lab slots. Take my example, I spent 4 million credits on crystals (which I could have used for forging or training or whatever, instead) just to get 50~ monsters to level 500+ and have since then received 11 Crystallized Phazons. That alone is already a return of 11x300k = 3.3 million credits on my investment. Add up all the shade fragments, bindings of slaughter, destruction, fox, owl, HGC, etc, and you start seeing how this is a good long term plan (especially since this is all passively generated). This means you have to grind mid-level arenas ideally everyday to obtain chaos tokens, though, but that's not so bad compared to endless hours of grinding and energy drinks.


I am not sure rare materials are affected by the monster PL. Activating a monster (giving it enough upgrades to have lvl 25) gives you a steady income, and Gold star gives your double the monsters for the sama amount of Chaos token spent, but as far as buying crystals...
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post Jun 17 2021, 00:22
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jun 16 2021, 23:04) *

I am not sure rare materials are affected by the monster PL. Activating a monster (giving it enough upgrades to have lvl 25) gives you a steady income, and Gold star gives your double the monsters for the sama amount of Chaos token spent, but as far as buying crystals...


They're not. It actually decreases your chances slightly (500s are in a bit of a battle deadzone - level 25s face and sometimes kill brand new players, while a monster must be around 1500 to face most of the active playerbase). PL only really affects the distribution of x-grade materials, in a linear fashion.
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post Jun 17 2021, 00:25
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Since getting EXP is getting harder on Grindfest, I might change my equipment.
Is there a trick to find fitting equipment for my warrior? Which stats are essential?
What does burden and interference mean? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Jun 17 2021, 01:33
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Quick question:
When the day changes at 0:00 UTC, so the damage bonus changes, if I'm still in a long battle (e.g GF), does it take effect immediately (or in the next round which doesn't make much difference) or after the battle?
(I don't know how much difference it makes, but I'm curious and maybe it's good to know.)

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post Jun 17 2021, 01:53
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QUOTE(jy-laji @ Jun 16 2021, 17:33) *

Quick question:
When the day changes at 0:00 UTC, so the damage bonus changes, if I'm still in a long battle (e.g GF), does it take effect immediately (or in the next round which doesn't make much difference) or after the battle?
(I don't know how much difference it makes, but I'm curious and maybe it's good to know.)


I've never done a proper test, but I've started plenty of GF right before dawn and the resulting turn count always is in line with the new day.

BUT the difficulty always feels in line with the old day. I don't have damage taken tracking enable so this is just a vague felling with no hard data (unlike the turn count).

So my guess is that for monsters it's the day when the round starts and for you it when the battle starts. But I'm much more iffy on the second part.
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post Jun 17 2021, 02:38
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QUOTE(Ichigo-Neko @ Jun 17 2021, 00:25) *

Since getting EXP is getting harder on Grindfest, I might change my equipment.
Is there a trick to find fitting equipment for my warrior? Which stats are essential?
What does burden and interference mean? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Don't know if you want to gain EXP faster or slower, Arena's EXP is more than GF
Most of the players are high-leveled, so the ordinary way ti find equipment is leveling up asap and buy equipment from wts or auction. Or you can buy tons of trophies to shrine for yourself.
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post Jun 17 2021, 05:04
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jun 16 2021, 23:04) *

I am not sure rare materials are affected by the monster PL. Activating a monster (giving it enough upgrades to have lvl 25) gives you a steady income, and Gold star gives your double the monsters for the sama amount of Chaos token spent, but as far as buying crystals...

They don't, that's not what I meant. I just got them to 500 because at 499 -> Gifts may now include High-Grade materials. I got ten of them to 750 -> Low-Grade materials can no longer be gifts, but I didn't find it worth it for the extra amount of crystals. I just meant that investing in monsters pays back in the long run, and since the goal is at least 1499 I will level them eventually, anyway. At first i started off with 400 for the spirit attack, but then decided to actually go for those extra HCG at 500. It's not "that expensive", it takes about 150k credits worth of crystals for 500ish level.

QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jun 16 2021, 11:22) *

A few very old players could still have in their HV walet, say, half of a bitcoin from the times when that was a 2 or 3 dollars leftover.

Since you cannot transfer them back from the HV wallet, they now seat on 20k dollars they can only use getting stars (I suspect some of the catgirls here just did that) or selling GS/renting servers.

Some simply have enough RL income that they don't mind investing a bunch of real money in the game for fun.

The world is a big place, there are a lot of different situations out there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

That reminds me of a screenshot of a Starcraft II prize pool of a 10+ year old tournament I saw a few months ago, where the prize money was something like 500€ for 1st place and then 5th to 8th received a meager consolation prize of 25 bitcoins...

Actually, when i bought my gold star I made it a point to transfer the exact amount of BTC, so there wouldn't be any leftover wasted on the acount, which was about 78€ at the time. three seconds after the transaction was complete I realized how dumb that was exactly for the reason you mentioned. Even 80€ instead of 78€ might have gotten me a triple star or something in the future.
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post Jun 17 2021, 14:26
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QUOTE(Ichigo-Neko @ Jun 17 2021, 07:25) *

Since getting EXP is getting harder on Grindfest, I might change my equipment.
Is there a trick to find fitting equipment for my warrior? Which stats are essential?
What does burden and interference mean? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


You don't grind exp on grindfest (at least not at your level and not if your primary aim is exp).
legendary arcanist IW (or any good quality equipment IW) give slightly better exp multiplier - and easier to clear, by miles -- and does not cost 1 energy to enter.
provided you already clear your daily dosage of 2nd page arena.
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post Jun 17 2021, 19:40
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Jun 17 2021, 13:26) *

You don't grind exp on grindfest (at least not at your level and not if your primary aim is exp).
legendary arcanist IW (or any good quality equipment IW) give slightly better exp multiplier - and easier to clear, by miles -- and does not cost 1 energy to enter.
provided you already clear your daily dosage of 2nd page arena.


He's level 186 (at time of writing).

It's pretty normal for low levels to burn excess stamina in grindfest, especially considering they won't even have all arenas unlocked.
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post Jun 17 2021, 20:35
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Hello there, i am a returning player, so i have some knowledge base, but i would like some help with how to minmax my gear efficiently, with regards to my limited budget.

Im playing 1h heavy armor build, this is my gear:

rapier
shield
helmet
chest
legs
boots
gloves

possible shield soulbound
rapier i possess have but am not using

[prntscr.com] Those are my stats

Now my goal would be to optimise for faster and easier arena clearing, because even though i can clear the arenas, its slow, and painful.
Im currently sitting at 1m credits, and have some obsolete artifacts of value - iron heart, annoying gun, 9x stocking stuffers, which i assume i will be able to turn into few M credits hopefully.
I assume biggest upgrade would a legendary rapier of slaughter for raw dmg output ? But honestly, not sure even of that. Im satisfied with the chest and leg piece of gear, the rest i will try to slowly replace.

I know this is very vague, but what budget should i expect, to at least halfway upgrade my gear? would it be better to invest into maximising offense so its faster, or rather try to upgrade defense a little, so i dont have as much issues surviving later rounds? For example IW is just plain hell to me.

Or should i even consider swapping into different fighting style ? Thanks for the suggestions! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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post Jun 17 2021, 21:22
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QUOTE(kukrak @ Jun 17 2021, 19:35) *

I assume biggest upgrade would a legendary rapier of slaughter for raw dmg output ? But honestly, not sure even of that. Im satisfied with the chest and leg piece of gear, the rest i will try to slowly replace.

I know this is very vague, but what budget should i expect, to at least halfway upgrade my gear? would it be better to invest into maximising offense so its faster, or rather try to upgrade defense a little, so i dont have as much issues surviving later rounds? For example IW is just plain hell to me.


If a rapier is hard to find (or considerably more expensive), you could also consider using a shortsword. They perform similarly in most content when using imperil (and you should be, since it's faster either way).

I would generally advise you to look for cheap legendary power armors for all slots - especially if you can find cheap power slaughters at auctions, although that might be hard below level 400 - and start with basic forging, armors to 5, weapon as much as you can.

For 5-10m, you can get a really solid 1H set these days, partially forge it, and that's more than enough to comfortably clear all PFUDOR arenas at a good speed (you should practice using Vital Strike against boss monsters, in particular).
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post Jun 17 2021, 21:40
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QUOTE(kukrak @ Jun 17 2021, 19:35) *

Hello there, i am a returning player, so i have some knowledge base, but i would like some help with how to minmax my gear efficiently, with regards to my limited budget.

Im playing 1h heavy armor build, this is my gear:

- skip -

I know this is very vague, but what budget should i expect, to at least halfway upgrade my gear? would it be better to invest into maximising offense so its faster, or rather try to upgrade defense a little, so i dont have as much issues surviving later rounds? For example IW is just plain hell to me.

Or should i even consider swapping into different fighting style ? Thanks for the suggestions! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


First, Stocking Stuffers are not tradeable any more (a change implemented this year, at February iirc). So you can only shrine those, and hope for a lucky drop.

As for style, it should be your choice; you have to like playing in the style you play, regardless of anything else. There are some who say mage is the way to go regardless, because it's faster (under specific condition, though; caveat emptor) ... I personally do not agree. Even if I'd want to switch to mage, I wouldn't advice to do it before level 400 and with a steady income. But it's your choice.

If you stay with 1H+Power still, then I'd prioritize to change the main hand and the head gear.

Remember that a low-ADB Power Slaughter can boost your damage lot more then a high-ADB Power of everything else; a couple Power Slaughter won't lower your defences much, but will improve your effectiveness and speed.

For the main hand, a Leg. Rapier of Slaughter with good ADB and parry if possible (but it's still not very easy to find one at that level); or a Shortsword of Slaughter (also viable, a bit sloer but also cheaper).

The prices nowadays are accessible even to low budget, even with some decent forging all those things will probably cost you 2-3m.

Look in last auctions to get a feeling of the changes in market, before launching your spending spree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

EDIT: defeated by Nezu's posting speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jun 17 2021, 21:47
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jun 18 2021, 02:40) *

He's level 186 (at time of writing).

It's pretty normal for low levels to burn excess stamina in grindfest, especially considering they won't even have all arenas unlocked.


I saw that, and I stand with what I said, he should not, keep 80+ stamina and do high difficulty RE instead, or if he insist to keep playing, do IW instead, even if it is only exq/mag it should still offer higher exp/stamina than paying 1 stamina to enter grindfest only to die or giving up before round 200.

Also, since he is registered from '08, have stars, and still at lvl 180, I doubt he played that much that he actually need to do grindfest to spend stamina.

QUOTE(kukrak @ Jun 18 2021, 03:35) *

Hello there, i am a returning player, so i have some knowledge base, but i would like some help with how to minmax my gear efficiently, with regards to my limited budget.

<snip>

Or should i even consider swapping into different fighting style ? Thanks for the suggestions! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


You need to invest a good chunk amount to boost 1h speed solely from equip, small increment will only add small boost (well, unless your current equipment is downright terrible - which I think yours is not).
Check how you play, do you use the skills? imperils? vital strike to sg?
Do you have OFC? if yes, did you use it? if not, get one, and use it on non sgs, that's one sanity boost for playing 1h heavy.
Also, how slow is your clearspeed on arena, if you're already close to 30 minutes on PFDWD then there is really not much room to expand with only small amount of credits.

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