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post Jun 14 2021, 03:26
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QUOTE(Reliance @ Jun 13 2021, 22:03) *

Oh, so I have to pay money to progress in isekai mode?

you can't send stuff if you don't have a star. Not worth it if you just want to make money
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post Jun 14 2021, 04:50
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jun 13 2021, 21:55) *

Playing HV is not an economic choice, either.

Neither is living, on the whole; and yet most of us insist on doing it.

Different beings do different things for different reasons, given what they have.

And economic choices do not exist: you can only have economic reasons to justify a choice, after the choice has been done already.
And this is exactly the opposite of what I'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

seems the discussion reaches a realm of philosophy
i get it, economy and calculation only reduce the happiness of the game
maybe because i'm affected by world of warcraft, which is a game that everone calculates for the "best build in budget", that's not fun after all
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post Jun 14 2021, 11:47
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jun 13 2021, 21:26) *

you can't send stuff if you don't have a star. Not worth it if you just want to make money

Thanks for telling me. I thought Isekai wouldn't need to rely on giving money because it disabled some hath perks and stuff or starting out with a lot of credits by just uploading galleries or setting up a server, I really thought everyone would be at the same starting line.
Maybe this game isn't for me.
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post Jun 14 2021, 13:45
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QUOTE(Reliance @ Jun 14 2021, 10:03) *

Oh, so I have to pay money to progress in isekai mode?
Guess I'll stick to persistent mode instead then. Thanks.


QUOTE(Reliance @ Jun 14 2021, 18:47) *

Thanks for telling me. I thought Isekai wouldn't need to rely on giving money because it disabled some hath perks and stuff or starting out with a lot of credits by just uploading galleries or setting up a server, I really thought everyone would be at the same starting line.
Maybe this game isn't for me.


That's what it supposed is a "level playing field" where people start at the same start line at the same time for specific time frame. But people could still trade using their persistent credits for stuff on ISK, so you could technically farm their credit by selling stuff to them, but you need star to do that.

You don't need to pay money to progress in isekai, really, the same could be said on the persistent also - I reach 480ish without paying a dime, got a star because somebody actually willing to trade it for an equip. But if you only reach mid 200 in persistent, I doubt you'll have the know-how to power grind and fight monsters hundred lvl above you on ISK's tower.

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post Jun 14 2021, 16:51
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 12 2021, 01:11) *

No, it's unusual for 1H Heavy Players to use a lot of Mana Potion in Battle. If you want to upgrade your current Set, forge the Block Chance of your Shield for 25 Times or more should be set in the first Place and it will lose 90% of the Problems, no Stress at all. If you don't want to change to Mage, just try to find better Slaughter Power Set, they are quite cheap nowadays, but you may have to level up quickly so that you can get cheap and good ones.


Thanks for the advice. I upgraded my shield to 26 block I think and the total block percentage is now 47.98%. shield

Should I focus on getting a better rapier or better armor (better slaughter power set)?

What stats should I prioritize while looking for better equips? Or should I just level up more before buying something? Thanks!

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post Jun 14 2021, 17:10
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jun 14 2021, 15:51) *

Thanks for the advice. I upgraded my shield to 26 block I think and the total block percentage is now 47.98%. shield

Should I focus on getting a better rapier or better armor (better slaughter power set)?

What stats should I prioritize while looking for better equips? Or should I just level up more before buying something? Thanks!


There is no need to aim purely for power slaughter armour at your level. Any legendary power would be fine.

Most players these days switch to mage in the late 300s. It's not usually worth investing heavily into melee styles right now due to the speed difference, now that starting as mage is cheaper than it used to be.
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post Jun 14 2021, 17:24
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jun 14 2021, 17:10) *

There is no need to aim purely for power slaughter armour at your level. Any legendary power would be fine.

Most players these days switch to mage in the late 300s. It's not usually worth investing heavily into melee styles right now due to the speed difference, now that starting as mage is cheaper than it used to be.

Recently Plain Legendary Phase/Cotton's price raise up to ~500k, about 3 times as they used to be in Jan. this year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

(still a bit cheaper than Power of Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Jun 14 2021, 20:04
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jun 14 2021, 16:10) *

It's not usually worth investing heavily into melee styles right now due to the speed difference, now that starting as mage is cheaper than it used to be.


QUOTE(sharmy @ Jun 14 2021, 16:24) *

Recently Plain Legendary Phase/Cotton's price raise up to ~500k, about 3 times as they used to be in Jan. this year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

(still a bit cheaper than Power of Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)


I cannot stand continously reading from various people that mage is (nowadays, supposedly) cheap and/or affordable, especially when such comments/posts are addressed to mid/low level players.

Such comparisons, limited only to the buying prices of the builds, are utterly misleading to them imho.

Yes, getting basic equips for mage may be (almost ...) as much cheap as getting it for 1H; but any non-trivial battles require some levels of forging (and more so for mage builds).

And there comes the abrupt awakening : for the price of forging ADB +3 PABS up 5 levels for a Power piece, you can barely buy 1 (ONE) phazon for your Phase piece.

For doing all Pfudor arenas with 1H, a reasonable shield with block forged 13 and all powers (not even slaughter) forged 5 is already enough.
Try that with 3+2 elem. mage, see how much you need to forge and IW ... than let's compare prices again ... and invested time too ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


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post Jun 15 2021, 00:04
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jun 14 2021, 21:04) *

Try that with 3+2 elem. mage, see how much you need to forge and IW ... than let's compare prices again ... and invested time too ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

IIRC I spent about 15mil to get there (equip+forging) + VV + EE + RR for comfort in the game - 5 mil more. Color cottons and phases, redwood staff.
Got IA4 and Elementalist perk later.
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post Jun 15 2021, 03:21
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forge deeply is not needed, I can run PF AR brainlessly with my signature.
(even the staff does not really need much forge, the only important thing for mage 4+1 is EPorf, I forge Staff's MDB just because I can)

If someone chooses mage 3+2, even forge EProf is not needed, and hath perk EE is also not needed. This mage set is readyly very cheap and still 2-3 times faster than melee.

Of cause, mage in GF needs forge very deeply, but the question is, can anybody stand running GF in melee style?
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post Jun 15 2021, 04:05
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What is wrong with my spells

Now I get Flames of Loki, Fimbulvetr, Wrath of Thor

BUT WHERE IS Storms of Njord? I cant see it in my slots setting

why I cant choose Storms of Niord in edit skills slot, while the others 3rd class elemental spells avaliable

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post Jun 15 2021, 04:19
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QUOTE(eayta123 @ Jun 14 2021, 22:05) *

Now I get Flames of Loki, Fimbulvetr, Wrath of Thor

BUT WHERE IS Storms of Njord? I cant see it in my slots setting

That should come when you're level 205.
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post Jun 15 2021, 07:06
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QUOTE(jantch @ Jun 15 2021, 04:19) *

That should come when you're level 205.

thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 15 2021, 12:56
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Jun 14 2021, 23:04) *

IIRC I spent about 15mil to get there (equip+forging) + VV + EE + RR for comfort in the game - 5 mil more. Color cottons and phases, redwood staff.
Got IA4 and Elementalist perk later.


Right. And with 1H you could do (slower) just the same spending only 3m, with only IA2 and no other perk, equally comfortably (if not even more).

Now, I know there are people who say 20m is cheap; but when we give advice to low level, we should remember how different it is for them.


QUOTE(sharmy @ Jun 15 2021, 02:21) *

forge deeply is not needed, I can run PF AR brainlessly with my signature.
- skip -


So basically, you say I'm right while trying to say I'm wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jun 15 2021, 14:05
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jun 15 2021, 12:56) *

So basically, you say I'm right while trying to say I'm wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Basicly, you - skip - my idea and explain my sentence without context
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post Jun 15 2021, 17:47
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I'd preferably just want to stick to 1H rapier style for a while.

A question, but should I upgrade my equipment first or rapier? Most of the legendary equipment I've come across all have extremely high level requirements (often 420+).
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post Jun 15 2021, 18:22
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jun 15 2021, 23:47) *

I'd preferably just want to stick to 1H rapier style for a while.

A question, but should I upgrade my equipment first or rapier? Most of the legendary equipment I've come across all have extremely high level requirements (often 420+).


Depends on which one you can find first.
I don't know how many Soul Fragments you have. If not many, you may have to do REs everyday to accumulate them; if many, you can try some Legendary Power Armor below Lv. 400 in
charles_Wzx's Shop
You can soulfuse and use them, they are not expensive. If you have enough Credits, from my Isekai Experience it's not a bad Idea to buy Soul Fragments from Bazzar, use better Equipments earlier makes the Play more comfortable and efficient.
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post Jun 15 2021, 18:37
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Jun 15 2021, 17:47) *
A question, but should I upgrade my equipment first or rapier? Most of the legendary equipment I've come across all have extremely high level requirements (often 420+).

QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 15 2021, 18:22) *
Depends on which one you can find first.
[...]

This. From the look of it, all your gear is outdated, i.e. generated prior to equipment rebalance patch way back. Ideally you should replace both your weapon and all armor pieces with up-to-date ones of Mag/Leg quality. Your overall damage shouldn't change too drastically (even if non-Slaughter), while your survivability will see a huge boost.
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post Jun 15 2021, 19:04
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I am seriously considering getting a Goldstar, but the process is too complicated. I have read the donation page and here is my concern. I don't trust most of the ways mentioned in the donation page, because all of them requires ID verification and I don't want to expose my personal ID. Is there any other ways to get a Goldstar?
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post Jun 15 2021, 21:30
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QUOTE(davidtsu @ Jun 15 2021, 19:04) *

I am seriously considering getting a Goldstar, but the process is too complicated. I have read the donation page and here is my concern. I don't trust most of the ways mentioned in the donation page, because all of them requires ID verification and I don't want to expose my personal ID. Is there any other ways to get a Goldstar?

Not all bitcoin trading companies are that bad. try a European company, Sweden has excellent privacy laws for instance. But the donation page on the forum has many very good tips.
Or, you can buy a gold star with credits. But you'd need to collect 85 million credits first. Not impossible, but you'd be spending a couple of years on Hentaiverse at least.
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