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May 9 2021, 22:58
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,174
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Randommember @ May 9 2021, 19:59)  Taking it here then. I mainly played a lot a long time ago, when the game was quite different and when monsters were fixed and not player-created and health and mana carried over between arenas (did grindfest even exist back then, not sure). And most notably, when the backpack slots were worth their weight in gold since you would use up the potions rather than them refilling automatically. A change which made long arenas rather trivial compared to when you had to have a strategy to not lose because of running out of potions. When weapons with banshee and Illithid had a purpose. But that was quite some time ago, even though I still have some of that old gear, most notably heavy armor of the barrier and Tower Shields. https://hentaiverse.org/equip/4057959/9cc3ab5be0And some daggers, scythes, gossamer and kevlar, just for memories. But no swordchucks sadly. Anyways, my playstyle is much what it was then, 1h sword and board. Or rapier rather. But using power armor instead of shield armor. Fairly safe playstyle, especially since I always go for juggernaut on all armor pieces and prefer endurance and HP to take less damage so I can coast along without needing to really pay too much attention and can play while watching youtube vids or listening to an audiobook. Works well for doing the early arenas (up to the Trio and the Three) where there arenät minibosses in every round. Minibosses cause problems because they really slow things down, having so much HPs, and being quite boring since they aren't really a threat and hit like a wet rag compared to many player-created monsters. Most notably the much hated Eila Ilmatar Jutilainen 501st. Which appear far too often.... The original post was about the value of doing the Dance with Dragons on PFUDOR though, which is something I sometimes attempt but get bored and flee out of due to how mindlessly boring and slow it gets when you start getting multiple mini-bosses in every round which takes forever to grind through when poking at them with a rapier. So is there a help for that? Or is it just to suck it and learn to play a mage? Vital Strike. Wait until the boss is stunned, and imperiled, and you have spirit stance on. Then hit her with Vital Strike. Also, you must use imperil on schoolgirls, and arguably on all monsters. Also, try Isekai, where Schoolgirls have 1/2 health. That helps a lot. On persistent, though, you would be better off making a cheap mage set specifically for SG
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May 9 2021, 23:27
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 10,914
Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(Randommember @ May 10 2021, 01:59)  So is there a help for that? Or is it just to suck it and learn to play a mage?
At your current it's easy and cheap to collect the basic Mage Gears, change to Mage is much quicker when clear Arenas, even with basic Gears, especially the last 3 Arenas.
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May 10 2021, 04:03
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,373
Joined: 20-May 19

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QUOTE(Randommember @ May 9 2021, 19:59)  So is there a help for that? Or is it just to suck it and learn to play a mage?
Mage saves 30%-60% time, my melee PFDwD run takes 6000 turn, my Magnificent beginner mage takes 4000 turn, and my current set, Legendary Radiant mage with full-forged staff and DD1 takes 2500 turn. It's still boring, a pity At your current level you can collect Radiant set / Charged set directly, skip the basic mage set for Lv.300-400 player
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May 12 2021, 04:09
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eomivan
Group: Members
Posts: 194
Joined: 27-November 11

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I found that I jumped from lv 448 to lv 455. Below is the current display in the game  But from the level and rank table, I should be lv 449. I have a script that records the level everyday and I was lv 448 yesterday (then I started a GF and finished it today). This post has been edited by eomivan: May 12 2021, 08:04
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May 12 2021, 07:35
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,373
Joined: 20-May 19

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QUOTE(eomivan @ May 12 2021, 04:09)  But from the level and rank table, I should be lv 448 449. I have a script that records the level everyday and I was lv 448 yesterday. you are lv 449 in the forum, it seems there might be a bug in your script?
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May 12 2021, 08:06
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eomivan
Group: Members
Posts: 194
Joined: 27-November 11

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QUOTE(sharmy @ May 11 2021, 21:35)  you are lv 449 in the forum, it seems there might be a bug in your script?
My wording may be a little confusing, so I updated my post. I was lv 448 yesterday, then started a GF and finished it today. So I think lv 449 shown in the forum should be the correct number. The problem is that in the game it's showing lv 455 and when I battle now, the monsters are also showing as lv 455.
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May 12 2021, 14:07
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sharmy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,373
Joined: 20-May 19

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QUOTE(eomivan @ May 12 2021, 08:06)  My wording may be a little confusing, so I updated my post. I was lv 448 yesterday, then started a GF and finished it today. So I think lv 449 shown in the forum should be the correct number. The problem is that in the game it's showing lv 455 and when I battle now, the monsters are also showing as lv 455.
Uh...so, it seems there is a Tenboro's bug?
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May 12 2021, 17:15
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,174
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(eomivan @ May 12 2021, 04:09)  I found that I jumped from lv 448 to lv 455. Below is the current display in the game  But from the level and rank table, I should be lv 449. I have a script that records the level everyday and I was lv 448 yesterday (then I started a GF and finished it today). This may well be a bug, if you're not using script, and you are sure that you are using the same account for HV and for the forum. I'll report this to tenboro
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May 12 2021, 20:04
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eomivan
Group: Members
Posts: 194
Joined: 27-November 11

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QUOTE(Noni @ May 12 2021, 07:15)  This may well be a bug, if you're not using script, and you are sure that you are using the same account for HV and for the forum. I'll report this to tenboro
It's still showing lv 455 if I turn off all the scripts. Also this is my only account, so it should be the same for HV and the forum. So far it has not caused any problems to playing the game. The only difference I noticed is that I started to get lv 455 equipments and I need a lot of EXP to get to the next level (the current EXP is within the lv 449 range but the next level requires the amount for lv 456). It would be nice if this issue could be reported since other people may also hit this bug.
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May 12 2021, 20:16
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,597
Joined: 13-September 12

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QUOTE(eomivan @ May 12 2021, 15:04)  It's still showing lv 455 if I turn off all the scripts. Also this is my only account, so it should be the same for HV and the forum.
So far it has not caused any problems to playing the game. The only difference I noticed is that I started to get lv 455 equipments and I need a lot of EXP to get to the next level (the current EXP is within the lv 449 range but the next level requires the amount for lv 456). It would be nice if this issue could be reported since other people may also hit this bug.
And the equipment you earn comes at what level?
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May 12 2021, 23:51
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hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

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Hello guys,
Manehattan Project or Dæmon Duality VIII
can you tell me which I should go first and why?
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May 13 2021, 00:55
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eomivan
Group: Members
Posts: 194
Joined: 27-November 11

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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ May 12 2021, 10:16)  And the equipment you earn comes at what level?
lv 455
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May 13 2021, 01:07
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 10,914
Joined: 5-January 14

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QUOTE(hgbdd @ May 13 2021, 05:51)  Hello guys,
Manehattan Project or Dæmon Duality VIII
can you tell me which I should go first and why?
Of course Dæmon Duality VIII. As 1H Heavy you can use OFC to clear Floor even without the Help of Manehattan Project. Dæmon Duality can benifit all the Damage, both Melee and Mage and including OFC.
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May 13 2021, 07:56
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,932
Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(hgbdd @ May 12 2021, 22:51)  Hello guys,
Manehattan Project or Dæmon Duality VIII
can you tell me which I should go first and why?
Do you use OFC a lot? Do you play only arenas?
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May 13 2021, 09:19
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hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 8,365
Joined: 8-December 08

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QUOTE(chjj30 @ May 13 2021, 00:07)  Of course Dæmon Duality VIII. As 1H Heavy you can use OFC to clear Floor even without the Help of Manehattan Project. Dæmon Duality can benifit all the Damage, both Melee and Mage and including OFC.
With my current equipment, if some monster is not imperiled it can survive. Then I lose the spirit mode after spend time killing the survivors and casting Imperil in the next round. I don't know how much damage OFC is increased by Manehattan Project, and increasing Dæmon Duality from VII to VIII is only a effective increase of ~3.5% damage. QUOTE(Nezu @ May 13 2021, 06:56)  Do you use OFC a lot? Do you play only arenas?
Not really, but I use a lot at RE. I play mostly the arenas, but sometimes I also play IW. PS: Perhaps I should said before, I'm 1H heavy player (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 13 2021, 10:36
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,932
Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(hgbdd @ May 13 2021, 08:19)  With my current equipment, if some monster is not imperiled it can survive. Then I lose the spirit mode after spend time killing the survivors and casting Imperil in the next round. I don't know how much damage OFC is increased by Manehattan Project, and increasing Dæmon Duality from VII to VIII is only a effective increase of ~3.5% damage. Not really, but I use a lot at RE. I play mostly the arenas, but sometimes I also play IW. PS: Perhaps I should said before, I'm 1H heavy player (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) If you have no intention of ever switching to mage, Manehattan is pretty decent against schoolgirls - it doubles the damage of OFC - but against normal enemies, it's massive overkill and makes basically 0 difference. DD is more useful in general-purpose situations.
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May 13 2021, 15:25
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,174
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(eomivan @ May 12 2021, 04:09)  I found that I jumped from lv 448 to lv 455. Below is the current display in the game  But from the level and rank table, I should be lv 449. I have a script that records the level everyday and I was lv 448 yesterday (then I started a GF and finished it today). Okay tenboro confirmed it was a bug, not sure what triggered this. Could be related to the introduction of isekai, he'll look into it further. For now, the level was corrected manually by tenboro. Thanks for reporting this bug!
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May 13 2021, 16:03
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Hinoka
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,033
Joined: 28-April 13

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Hello experts what is the best shield to get in the game? I just turned in my second Peerless voucher in isekai and got a Peerless Amber Force Shield of Protection. Pretty good shield but I know there are better ones. I wasted my first PV in isekai with a staff roll and got an earth walker staff.
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May 13 2021, 16:17
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Nezu
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,932
Joined: 29-January 12

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QUOTE(Hinoka @ May 13 2021, 15:03)  Hello experts what is the best shield to get in the game? I just turned in my second Peerless voucher in isekai and got a Peerless Amber Force Shield of Protection. Pretty good shield but I know there are better ones. I wasted my first PV in isekai with a staff roll and got an earth walker staff.
It doesn't really matter. Any SDE force is roughly equivalent. If you care about extreme min-maxing, there are those who would argue Zircon to be the preferable prefix, with Ruby and Onyx following behind. I personally favour dampening as the suffix. Some like warding. Protection is alright.
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May 13 2021, 17:08
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Hinoka
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,033
Joined: 28-April 13

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QUOTE(Nezu @ May 13 2021, 07:17)  It doesn't really matter. Any SDE force is roughly equivalent. If you care about extreme min-maxing, there are those who would argue Zircon to be the preferable prefix, with Ruby and Onyx following behind. I personally favour dampening as the suffix. Some like warding. Protection is alright.
Thanks! I was just wondering if there was big difference between the dampening, warding or protection suffix. Still I'm happy with my roll.
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