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post Feb 4 2021, 19:56
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ Feb 4 2021, 17:10) *

That's pretty sweet. I'm not sure how it made them more valuable thou. Please correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding is that we will be able to shrine multiple schoolgirls trophies at a time for a higher tier right? And eventually we will be able to do the same on Persistant right? This is a pretty good time to mention that I'm sitting on 12k schoolgirls trophies I've been saving for years and years. I only shrine Noodles.


The value increase came from both their base shrine value rising, and the shrine value multiplier when upgrading (1.3x, although that's intended to offset the loss in actual credit return from having fewer junk equips to sell). They're now worth about twice as much as before to FoSers, though to everyone else, still not worth shrining.
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post Feb 4 2021, 20:06
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Feb 4 2021, 09:56) *

The value increase came from both their base shrine value rising, and the shrine value multiplier when upgrading (1.3x, although that's intended to offset the loss in actual credit return from having fewer junk equips to sell). They're now worth about twice as much as before to FoSers, though to everyone else, still not worth shrining.


Well that's even better. Looks like my hoarding paid off. I might shrine them all soon then. With FoS is it better to shrine a tenbora's box to take you over the 10m threshold?
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post Feb 4 2021, 21:56
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QUOTE(Hinoka @ Feb 4 2021, 18:06) *

Well that's even better. Looks like my hoarding paid off. I might shrine them all soon then. With FoS is it better to shrine a tenbora's box to take you over the 10m threshold?


No, it changed so you now get a peerless voucher whenever you go over 10m, so you don't have to pay attention to your trophy usage at all.
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post Feb 5 2021, 19:46
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I'm getting kinda bored playing 1h rapier, which other melee style is viable? My guess is DW with club+rapier/waki and niten? Both style use heavy armor right?
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post Feb 5 2021, 19:48
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Feb 5 2021, 18:46) *

I'm getting kinda bored playing 1h rapier, which other melee style is viable? My guess is DW with club+rapier/waki and niten? Both style use heavy armor right?

DW is viable, niten a bit less so but still doable from what I've heard. Both styles need shade armors, so not heavy armor.
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post Feb 5 2021, 19:58
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QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 6 2021, 00:48) *

DW is viable, niten a bit less so but still doable from what I've heard. Both styles need shade armors, so not heavy armor.


Which setup is good for DW? club slaughter with rapier/waki nimble? can I use off hand rapier slaughter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

For the shade armor, which prefix should I aim? shadowdancer or fleet?

I will use this set to clear non schoolgirls arena most likely.

thanks in advance! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 5 2021, 20:35
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Feb 5 2021, 18:58) *

can I use off hand rapier slaughter? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
You can, but off hand has reduced damage, so i would personally only use balance or nimble for off.
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post Feb 5 2021, 22:40
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Feb 5 2021, 14:58) *

I will use this set to clear non schoolgirls arena most likely.

thanks in advance! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


it is possible to use power armor for both niten and dw, for non sg arenas niten is way better. DW has better defense but is slower in real time. I recommend power of protection and forge a bit the defensive stats. Niten power is faster than 1h when you don't have problems with your survivability

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post Feb 6 2021, 02:22
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Niten power is faster than 1h when you don't have problems with your survivability


Lolo, Niten with power (mix protection & warding) is also faster then 1h + Power Slaughter ??
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post Feb 6 2021, 02:39
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Probably not (not sure). Sorry, I meant if you compare them with the same armors. But could be a draw. I've played with unforged savage balance and is faster than my savage SD set. That's why I think it's better investing on power armors. They are more common and cheaper than a good light armor. Though at that level using balance or slaughter doesn't sound like a good idea
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post Feb 6 2021, 04:19
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Probably not (not sure). Sorry, I meant if you compare them with the same armors. But could be a draw. I've played with unforged savage balance and is faster than my savage SD set. That's why I think it's better investing on power armors. They are more common and cheaper than a good light armor. Though at that level using balance or slaughter doesn't sound like a good idea


I see. But I would say good savage balance is as much rare and costly as good savage shadowdancer, for what I have seen.

It's also worth noting that forging ADB on Shade is quite cheaper then forging ADB on Power, so ... maybe a more significant comparison is between a heavily forged Shade and a lightly forged Power (i.e., at equal total forging cost, rather then equal forge level).

What do you think ?
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post Feb 6 2021, 04:58
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Eh, no, my balance set has 65% adb on averge, i spent 1.5~2m on all the pieces. Shadowdancers are expensive lately (and the good ones are more expensive than balance ones). Also my shades are forged a bit. 100 actuators is less than 3.5m .-.

Power will be better, always

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post Feb 7 2021, 11:58
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I have a question regarding Magnificent and Legendary-tiered equipment. How will I know whether to bazaar the item or salvage it for the high-grade materials? Is it better to bazaar and get the credits, or should I get the materials for upgrades? (You know, the items that don't sell at auctions/WTS forum.)
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post Feb 7 2021, 13:39
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hello.
for the expert who play mage (elemental, divine or forbidden)
what are your step by step when doing arena, grindfest or item world.
i mean like first is holy imperil to 1 monster after that just cast paradise lost skill?
i never play mage style so i dont have any idea how it works.
also can mage kill all 10 monster using their respective ultimate skill?
sorry for my bad english.
thank you.
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post Feb 7 2021, 14:45
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Feb 7 2021, 09:58) *

I have a question regarding Magnificent and Legendary-tiered equipment. How will I know whether to bazaar the item or salvage it for the high-grade materials? Is it better to bazaar and get the credits, or should I get the materials for upgrades? (You know, the items that don't sell at auctions/WTS forum.)

The easiest way to not make any mistakes is to get the HVUtils script and set the material prices that correspond to the lowest sale prices (or average or whatever you feel is the best value over time) on [hvmarket.xyz] HVMarket. If you do this, the script will automatically tell you if it's better to sell or salvage. At the moment, only HGC (mag/leg) is worth more than the equipment's sale value for sure. MGC and HGW depend on the gear itself. For example, an exquisite Phase is probably gonna be worth more sold on the bazaar than the MGC+cells you get from salvaging, but a regular cloth might not be.
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post Feb 7 2021, 20:07
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QUOTE(akir44 @ Feb 7 2021, 12:39) *

hello.
for the expert who play mage (elemental, divine or forbidden)
what are your step by step when doing arena, grindfest or item world.
i mean like first is holy imperil to 1 monster after that just cast paradise lost skill?
i never play mage style so i dont have any idea how it works.
also can mage kill all 10 monster using their respective ultimate skill?
sorry for my bad english.
thank you.

I play dark mage, and before that I played cold mage

Don't go mage before lv 310. Or even better, lv330. Because you need 'better imperil' and 'faster imperil' maxed out.
1. Imperil all monsters
2. Imperil the monsters that resisted the first imperil
3. repeat step 2.
4. heal
5. start hover spell rotation (Monsterbation script). That casts T3, then T2 then T1 spell until the T3 and T2 are cooled down.
6. Continue with step5 untill everything is dead. One shot everything? No, only with bubble gum + flower vase.
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post Feb 7 2021, 23:43
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I've just been using the T1 spell until there's 6 or more monsters. Is this less efficient somehow? Seems more mana efficient at least.
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post Feb 7 2021, 23:48
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QUOTE(Chaisy @ Feb 7 2021, 21:43) *

I've just been using the T1 spell until there's 6 or more monsters. Is this less efficient somehow? Seems more mana efficient at least.


T3 and T2 do significantly more damage than T1. The mana efficiency is minimal if it has any effect at all and you're probably better off just using the standard rotation all the time.
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post Feb 8 2021, 07:03
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Feb 7 2021, 16:48) *

T3 and T2 do significantly more damage than T1. The mana efficiency is minimal if it has any effect at all and you're probably better off just using the standard rotation all the time.


When I measured them when I first played around with fire mage the T2 and T3 only did about 10-40% more damage, while the T2 costs more than twice as much mana, the T3 more than three times as much. So unless there's something I'm missing, it doesn't seem to add up, or only takes effect once proficiency is higher. Also killing faster is actually bad, fewer Draught ticks per round that way.
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post Feb 8 2021, 08:05
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I would not worry about mana consumption. Killing things faster is the only consideration. Micromanaging which spell is cast takes more time than it's worth.

T2 and T3 do not do more damage proportional to their mana cost (this is old but probably broadly right on the ratios), but they still kill faster.
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