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Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas

this is not a good idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Niten is slow there

For shade and frd, any katana with high adb is good. If you want to use heavy armor, then an ethereal one.
If you already have a power set, you can get a swiftness waki or a balance one with swift strike 5 and use featherweight on your armor. Balance if you choose light armor.
Overpower 5 on each weapon if you don't want to use frd (I can clear arenas easily with light armor, I don't know about heavy), then swift strike on the waki and fatality or butcher on the katana.
Op and fat or but on the katana and fat and swift on the waki if you choose frd.

To be honest, I don't see almost any difference between using or not using frd (maybe a bit faster when you use it) , so I would say frd style is better because you'll need it to clear gf or iw

This post has been edited by lololo16: Feb 17 2018, 09:37

Oo.. I didn't know that, so there's not much differences between PL25 and PL250....
And 150 mons are not that hard?? Woww... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Well, uncle did create 70 monster this year. Yeah, uncle didnt care for a looooong time about the number of his monsters and also did buy tokenizer I and II also this year. Learn from his mistakes. Create monster as if they are cheaper by the dozen. So, just go and buy all three tokenizer and play enough arenas every day and i would say 150 in a year is not a real problem.

And the actual difference beginns somewhere around PL 500, when the chance for HG Materials start and they appear at least to some low level players. Or maybe somewhere around PL 1100, when they beginn to have the small chance to appear even to high lvl players. I have seen, or at least noticed, my PL 1311 monster until now two times.

I was hoping I could glean some advice on how to get started on niten style.

1) Katana of slaughter (ethereal might even be pretty good, right?) and waka of....what? My heart is telling me nimble or swiftness, but can I ask the experts on this one? My heart has lied to me before.

2) What kind of IW do I want to go for in each item?

3) I assume savage shade armor of the shadowdancer is what I'm looking to get for the most ideal armor (or am I undervaluing fleet?). What stat has the most priority to upgrade on these armors? Evade chance? Pmit?

4) Should I be using Skyward Sword at all? I know some 2H players spam FRD, which should I go for with niten?

If there's any other noob-trap stuff related to Niten that you could throw my way, I'd be grateful.

Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas, or arenas in general. I don't have enough perks for GF to be worth it yet.

1: Balance for offensive stats, Nimble for defensive stats.
2: Butcher/Fatality for both.
3: Shadowdancer is just a better fleet. Besides ADB and Crit chance (for shadowdancer), evade and Pmit are probably equal.
4: FRD

I don't actually use Niten (No katana yet, just the waki) but a lot of this holds true for DW as well. Except the FRD thing.

1: Balance for offensive stats, Nimble for defensive stats.
2: Butcher/Fatality for both.
3: Shadowdancer is just a better fleet. Besides ADB and Crit chance (for shadowdancer), evade and Pmit are probably equal.
4: FRD

I don't actually use Niten (No katana yet, just the waki) but a lot of this holds true for DW as well. Except the FRD thing.

WRONG

Overpower and Butcher.

Well, uncle did create 70 monster this year. Yeah, uncle didnt care for a looooong time about the number of his monsters and also did buy tokenizer I and II also this year. Learn from his mistakes. Create monster as if they are cheaper by the dozen. So, just go and buy all three tokenizer and play enough arenas every day and i would say 150 in a year is not a real problem.

And the actual difference beginns somewhere around PL 500, when the chance for HG Materials start and they appear at least to some low level players. Or maybe somewhere around PL 1100, when they beginn to have the small chance to appear even to high lvl players. I have seen, or at least noticed, my PL 1311 monster until now two times.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's enlighting....
Because I need the binding gifts from them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Btw with this year, i mean in the time of around a year, so dont think i did create 70 monster in this few weeks.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 17 2018, 10:39

Btw with this year, i mean in the time of around a year, so dont think i did create 70 monster in this few weeks.

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I knew that from the first time I read...
Btw I created 15 in 3 months.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just wanted to avoid any missunderstanding. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

Besides ADB and Crit chance (for shadowdancer), evade and Pmit are probably equal.

They are.

WRONG

Overpower and Butcher.

At this point, why not the evergreen DW solution, aka: whatever combo of but/fat/op on mainhand, fat/op on offhand?

I just figured if you're using FRD anyway, why get overpower? FRD stuns enemies so they can't evade or parry.

Oo.. I didn't know that, so there's not much differences between PL25 and PL250....
And 150 mons are not that hard?? Woww... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

150 are hard to get, but very easy to maintain.
PL under 500 as uncle said, will barely bring you any gifts apart from the gifts every 3 days. They start appearing more when they get over 1k2 PL. So focus your crystals on one monster only, get it to around 1k3 PL.

For any of my armor sets, is it better to have different suffixes or a singular suffix?

For example, should I go for my shade armor load-out to be completely shadowdancer, or should I have a varied set like one armor being negation, another shadowdancer, and one with fleet?

For any of my armor sets, is it better to have different suffixes or a singular suffix?

For example, should I go for my shade armor load-out to be completely shadowdancer, or should I have a varied set like one armor being negation, another shadowdancer, and one with fleet?

Some suffixes are just vastly superior to others, you can see from the price on the market. Shadowdancer has all that Fleet can give, so why bother Fleet? A full set of Shadowdancer will have bonus evade AND attack critical bonus + some more bonuses while a set of Fleet will only have bonus evade.

150 are hard to get, but very easy to maintain.
PL under 500 as uncle said, will barely bring you any gifts apart from the gifts every 3 days. They start appearing more when they get over 1k2 PL. So focus your crystals on one monster only, get it to around 1k3 PL.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's nice strategy..
I thought monsters are useless, for what purposes? But when I got several nice bindings, I change my mind...

But 50-100 monsters with under PL 500 that's gonna be a lot of gifts I think...

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's nice strategy..
I thought monsters are useless, for what purposes? But when I got several nice bindings, I change my mind...

But 50-100 monsters with under PL 500 that's gonna be a lot of gifts I think...

Some spoilers:
144 monsters, top 3 1455 1266 977, 23 with PL > 150, the rest are under 150
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Only the 1455 one is getting daily gift, even 1266 has very low gift frequency.

This post has been edited by as013: Feb 17 2018, 12:29

Some spoilers:
144 monsters, top 3 1455 1266 977, 23 with PL > 150, the rest are under 150

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Only the 1455 one is getting daily gift, even 1266 has very low gift frequency.

Do you ever get stuck in scarcity mode? Like lack of chow/edibles/cuisine/pills with so many monsters...

Do you ever get stuck in scarcity mode? Like lack of chow/edibles/cuisine/pills with so many monsters...

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Never bought any of these

Never bought any of these

Uncle did once. But only because he was not playing for quite a while and did sell to many of his food before that. So yeah, it is not so easy to run out of food. That is why i never understand when i read about someone did and has no money to buy them more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/o7wHd09.png)
Never bought any of these

Uncle did once. But only because he was not playing for quite a while and did sell to many of his food before that. So yeah, it is not so easy to run out of food. That is why i never understand when i read about someone did and has no money to buy them more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oh my goodness....
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So monster lab is not that like credits sink...

Is there a optimal ratio for using token to unlock new slot over strengthening preexisting monsters?