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I am a fresh beginner who started right now.

Thanks for your help.
Not sure about many things yet, but your post helped me a lot.

Hope my persona won't have to fight bare handed soon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by LAFAyef: Feb 16 2018, 14:53

- Get better weapon. Rapier, shortsword, axe
- Get a shield
- Get better armour: leather works fine at your level. Or plate. Or power.

Check FreeSHop for free gear. Check WTS for free items for low level players.

Well, I'm not an expert, but recommending leather when he has full set of exquisite shielding plate seems a bit... wrong?

according to wiki and the horse's mouth, the formula for morale gained from primary attribute crystals is (roundup(N*0.5)+3)*1000

but according to my observations, the formula rounds up for STR, AGI, INT and down for DEX, END, WIS. so for example, upgrading STR from +1 to +2 will recover 4,000 morale, while upgrading DEX from the same level will recover 3,000

before i canonise these findings in the next crunk juice update, i have to ask: is this a bug or a feature?

and while i'm here: if you use an older version of crunk juice with firefox, now may be a good time to update: some firefox update broke the crystal feeder's ability to avoid wasting crystals

but according to my observations, the formula rounds up for STR, AGI, INT and down for DEX, END, WIS. so for example, upgrading STR from +1 to +2 will recover 4,000 morale, while upgrading DEX from the same level will recover 3,000

before i canonise these findings in the next crunk juice update, i have to ask: is this a bug or a feature?

i noted some discrepancies as well. no clue.

could it be related to the class or the end-value, perhaps?

and while i'm here: if you use an older version of crunk juice with firefox, now may be a good time to update: some firefox update broke the crystal feeder's ability to avoid wasting crystals

ah, thank you for telling us.

could it be related to the class or the end-value, perhaps?

i have upgraded different classes of monsters by the same amounts and all signs point to it being based on the type of attribute alone, but the amount of testing i can do is limited by slow morale drain, so it would be helpful if others could confirm these findings

This post has been edited by sickentide: Feb 16 2018, 17:00

according to wiki and the horse's mouth, the formula for morale gained from primary attribute crystals is (roundup(N*0.5)+3)*1000

but according to my observations, the formula rounds up for STR, AGI, INT and down for DEX, END, WIS. so for example, upgrading STR from +1 to +2 will recover 4,000 morale, while upgrading DEX from the same level will recover 3,000

before i canonise these findings in the next crunk juice update, i have to ask: is this a bug or a feature?

and while i'm here: if you use an older version of crunk juice with firefox, now may be a good time to update: some firefox update broke the crystal feeder's ability to avoid wasting crystals

Maybe the increase in morale is linked to the apparent increase in PL, and not the the level in that stat?
I'm considering this option because the PL displayed is actually a rounded value of all stats together, while all primary upgrades raise the total PL by X.5.

Maybe the increase in morale is linked to the apparent increase in PL, and not the the level in that stat?
I'm considering this option because the PL displayed is actually a rounded value of all stats together, while all primary upgrades raise the total PL by X.5.

that's a possibility to consider. it would be nice to have more data to verify it, but i'm sure it will come over time

This post has been edited by sickentide: Feb 16 2018, 21:57

1. Is it worth to shrine a figurine?
2. I have 15 monster (3 slots left emptied), is it hard to maintain them all? 1 mon PL 436, 5 mons PL 161-169, 4 mons PL 78, 5 mons PL 53

1. Is it worth to shrine a figurine?
2. I have 15 monster (3 slots left emptied), is it hard to maintain them all? 1 mon PL 436, 5 mons PL 161-169, 4 mons PL 78, 5 mons PL 53

1. Not really imo.
2. Not at all. And you should not let slot empty. Just create three monster and get stuff from them.

I was hoping I could glean some advice on how to get started on niten style.

1) Katana of slaughter (ethereal might even be pretty good, right?) and waka of....what? My heart is telling me nimble or swiftness, but can I ask the experts on this one? My heart has lied to me before.

2) What kind of IW do I want to go for in each item?

3) I assume savage shade armor of the shadowdancer is what I'm looking to get for the most ideal armor (or am I undervaluing fleet?). What stat has the most priority to upgrade on these armors? Evade chance? Pmit?

4) Should I be using Skyward Sword at all? I know some 2H players spam FRD, which should I go for with niten?

If there's any other noob-trap stuff related to Niten that you could throw my way, I'd be grateful.

Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas, or arenas in general. I don't have enough perks for GF to be worth it yet.

This post has been edited by PapaJuk: Feb 17 2018, 06:13

1. Not really imo.
2. Not at all. And you should not let slot empty. Just create three monster and get stuff from them.

So I have collect more crystals for three more....

Thank you so much uncle... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

4) Should I be using Skyward Sword at all? I know some 2H players spam FRD, which should I go for with niten?

If there's any other noob-trap stuff related to Niten that you could throw my way, I'd be grateful.

Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas, or arenas in general. I don't have enough perks for GF to be worth it yet.

You can use FRD for GF and IW, but for arenas, you shouldn't be needing it.

I didn't realize there's a crushing magical attack for monster.
I guess I have to pay more attention to what monstrr do what things mmm...

1. Is it worth to shrine a figurine?
2. I have 15 monster (3 slots left emptied), is it hard to maintain them all? 1 mon PL 436, 5 mons PL 161-169, 4 mons PL 78, 5 mons PL 53

Very easy to maintain 150 monsters. Just feed them everyday and throw drugs whenever needed. Just leave the small ones at PL25. PL25 and PL250 doesn't make any difference.

Very easy to maintain 150 monsters. Just feed them everyday and throw drugs whenever needed. Just leave the small ones at PL25. PL25 and PL250 doesn't make any difference.

Oo.. I didn't know that, so there's not much differences between PL25 and PL250....
And 150 mons are not that hard?? Woww... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas

this is not a good idea (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Niten is slow there

For shade and frd, any katana with high adb is good. If you want to use heavy armor, then an ethereal one.
If you already have a power set, you can get a swiftness waki or a balance one with swift strike 5 and use featherweight on your armor. Balance if you choose light armor.
Overpower 5 on each weapon if you don't want to use frd (I can clear arenas easily with light armor, I don't know about heavy), then swift strike on the waki and fatality or butcher on the katana.
Op and fat or but on the katana and fat and swift on the waki if you choose frd.

To be honest, I don't see almost any difference between using or not using frd (maybe a bit faster when you use it) , so I would say frd style is better because you'll need it to clear gf or iw

This post has been edited by lololo16: Feb 17 2018, 09:37

Oo.. I didn't know that, so there's not much differences between PL25 and PL250....
And 150 mons are not that hard?? Woww... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Well, uncle did create 70 monster this year. Yeah, uncle didnt care for a looooong time about the number of his monsters and also did buy tokenizer I and II also this year. Learn from his mistakes. Create monster as if they are cheaper by the dozen. So, just go and buy all three tokenizer and play enough arenas every day and i would say 150 in a year is not a real problem.

And the actual difference beginns somewhere around PL 500, when the chance for HG Materials start and they appear at least to some low level players. Or maybe somewhere around PL 1100, when they beginn to have the small chance to appear even to high lvl players. I have seen, or at least noticed, my PL 1311 monster until now two times.

I was hoping I could glean some advice on how to get started on niten style.

1) Katana of slaughter (ethereal might even be pretty good, right?) and waka of....what? My heart is telling me nimble or swiftness, but can I ask the experts on this one? My heart has lied to me before.

2) What kind of IW do I want to go for in each item?

3) I assume savage shade armor of the shadowdancer is what I'm looking to get for the most ideal armor (or am I undervaluing fleet?). What stat has the most priority to upgrade on these armors? Evade chance? Pmit?

4) Should I be using Skyward Sword at all? I know some 2H players spam FRD, which should I go for with niten?

If there's any other noob-trap stuff related to Niten that you could throw my way, I'd be grateful.

Edit: This would be mostly for doing SG arenas, or arenas in general. I don't have enough perks for GF to be worth it yet.

1: Balance for offensive stats, Nimble for defensive stats.
2: Butcher/Fatality for both.
3: Shadowdancer is just a better fleet. Besides ADB and Crit chance (for shadowdancer), evade and Pmit are probably equal.
4: FRD

I don't actually use Niten (No katana yet, just the waki) but a lot of this holds true for DW as well. Except the FRD thing.

1: Balance for offensive stats, Nimble for defensive stats.
2: Butcher/Fatality for both.
3: Shadowdancer is just a better fleet. Besides ADB and Crit chance (for shadowdancer), evade and Pmit are probably equal.
4: FRD

I don't actually use Niten (No katana yet, just the waki) but a lot of this holds true for DW as well. Except the FRD thing.

WRONG

Overpower and Butcher.

Well, uncle did create 70 monster this year. Yeah, uncle didnt care for a looooong time about the number of his monsters and also did buy tokenizer I and II also this year. Learn from his mistakes. Create monster as if they are cheaper by the dozen. So, just go and buy all three tokenizer and play enough arenas every day and i would say 150 in a year is not a real problem.

And the actual difference beginns somewhere around PL 500, when the chance for HG Materials start and they appear at least to some low level players. Or maybe somewhere around PL 1100, when they beginn to have the small chance to appear even to high lvl players. I have seen, or at least noticed, my PL 1311 monster until now two times.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's enlighting....
Because I need the binding gifts from them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)